Jan 30, 2025 City Council on 2025-01-30 6:00 PM - Special Called

SATISFACTION AS PART OF THE SURVEY TOO.

GOOD QUESTION.

UH, JUST COMMENT IS THAT JUST FROM MY TIME WITH YOU, MY LONG TENURE ON COUNCIL, UM, YOU, I MEAN, YOU'VE SEEN A DIFFERENCE, UM, SPECIFIC DEPARTMENTS AND YOU KNOW, PEOPLE I KNOW AND IT'S, IT'S GOOD.

I MEAN, STATS ARE THERE, BUT JUST, I MEAN, TALKING TO PEOPLE, THEY'RE HAPPY, HAPPY AND IT'S GOOD.

KUDOS TO Y'ALL FOR ANYTIME YOU CHANGE A COACH.

SOME PLAYERS LEAVE, THEY DON'T LIKE THE NEW SYSTEM.

THEY DON'T WANT TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE.

AND IT'S BETTER THAT THEY DO LEAVE.

SO, BECAUSE DISGRUNTLED EMPLOYEES ARE A PROBLEM IN ANY ORGANIZATION, WELL, IT'S A DIF MAKES A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A HEALTHY WORK ENVIRONMENT AND A TOXIC WORK ENVIRONMENT.

IT'S GREAT TO SEE SUCCESS STORIES FOR PEOPLE THAT CAN BE REHABILITATED.

UM, THESE ARE PEOPLE PROBABLY THAT DIDN'T FEEL HEARD, AND THEN YOU CHANGE THE WORK CULTURE TO MAKE THEM MAKE THEM FEEL HEARD AND THAT CAN MOVE THEM UP.

BUT THERE ARE GONNA BE PEOPLE THAT YOU'RE, THEY'RE JUST NOT GONNA BE HAPPY NO MATTER WHAT.

AND, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT CAN BE DANGEROUS BECAUSE IT CAN CREATE TOXICITY IN THE WORKPLACE.

AND I CAN SEE THROUGH RESULTS IT SEEMS THAT, UM, DOESN'T LOOK LIKE WE'VE GOT THAT PROBLEM HERE WITH TOXICITY.

UH, NO, I THINK, UM, I THINK WE'RE SEEING GREATER LEVELS OF COLLABORATION ACROSS MULTIPLE DEPARTMENTS ARE STILL OPPORTUNITIES FOR IMPROVEMENT.

UM, YOU KNOW, WE MEASURE

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WE DIDN'T PRESENT THAT TO YOU, BUT WE CARE THAT OUR EMPLOYEES ARE HAPPY.

BUT REALLY THE FOCUS IS ENGAGEMENT.

THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS I CAN'T CONTROL THESE DIRECTORS CAN'T CONTROL THAT ARE HAPPENING IN PEOPLE'S PERSONAL LIVES.

BUT IF THEY COME TO WORK AND WE SHOW AND THEY, THEY FEEL LIKE THEY'RE IN A SAFE PLACE AND THAT PEOPLE CARE ABOUT 'EM AND THEY HAVE THE TOOLS TO DO THEIR JOB, UH, THEN, UM, THEN THAT'S WHERE YOU SEES THE ENGAGEMENT LEVELS GO UP.

AND YOU'LL SEE IT EVEN IN THE COMMUNITY SURVEY THAT I'M ABOUT TO PRESENT.

AND THAT YOU'VE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT.

I CAN, I, I'VE SEEN SEVERAL IMPROVEMENTS.

I'M LIKE, I KNOW IT'S BEHIND THAT, THAT THERE'S AN ENGAGEMENT STORY BEHIND SOME OF THOSE THINGS.

AND THE GENERAL PUBLIC'S NOT GONNA BE AWARE OF THAT.

BUT AGAIN, WITH A SERVICE ORGANIZATION LIKE WE ARE WITH 300 EMPLOYEES, YOU'VE GOTTA HAVE A STRONG FOUNDATION OF ENGAGEMENT AND WE'RE GONNA DO ANYTHING STUFF.

I WOULD JUST, I WOULD JUST ENCOURAGE MANAGERS TO LOOK AT THEIR RULES BECAUSE THERE ARE RULES THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE THAT CAN'T BE ELIMINATED OR ADJUSTED OR MODIFIED.

THERE'S ALWAYS SOMETHING TO BE REVIEWED.

SO IF YOU'RE HAVING THOSE ENGAGEMENTS WITH EMPLOYEES TO FIND THINGS, HEY, HOW CAN WE IMPROVE IF THEY'RE NOT COMING UP? BUT THEN THEY'RE NOT LOOKING HARD ENOUGH? 'CAUSE I'M, I FIND, I FOUND A COUPLE THIS WEEK, WE GOT, I HAVEN'T MADE A MENTION OF IT AND I WON'T SPECIFICALLY HEAR NOW, BUT THERE'S SOME THINGS OUT THERE JUST QUIRKY THAT, THAT YOU'LL, YOU'LL FIND, YOU JUST GOTTA LOOK.

AND I'M SURE A ADMINISTRATIVE CORRECTION OR A MODIFICATION COULD MAKE, UH, LIVES OF OUR, YOU THE CUSTOMERS OR EMPLOYEES MAYBE WILL.

WE HAD THAT CONVERSATION TWO WEEKS AGO.

UM, I, I HAVEN'T SHARED IT WITH THE DIRECTORS, BUT I THINK THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO MOVE SOMETHING LIKE THIS, A PROCESS IN WITH OUR BUDGET SUBMITTALS MM-HMM .

UH, TO GET SOME OTHER ATTENTION IN THAT DEGREE.

SO, ALL GOOD QUESTIONS.

ALRIGHT,

[5. DISCUSSION: COMMUNITY INSIGHTS - INFORMING STRATEGIC PRIORITIES ]

ANYTHING ELSE? ALRIGHT, LET'S MOVE ON TO THE, UM, THE COMMUNITY SURVEY.

YOU GUYS, I EMAILED THIS TO YOU LAST WEEK.

UH, THE, THE, UH, THE DASHBOARD, THE LINK, THE VERY INTERACTIVE, UH, DASHBOARD.

UM, YOU HAVE A COPY OF THIS PRESENTATION IN THIS BINDER, THIS BINDER THAT I'VE GIVEN.

I'LL WALK YOU THROUGH IT, THAT YOU'LL HAVE THE SLIDE DECK THAT I'LL REFER TO.

AND THEN I'LL, UM, I'LL WALK YOU THROUGH THE OTHER TABS HERE IN A MINUTE.

YOU GUYS HAVE SEEN THESE SURVEYS BEFORE, JUST LIKE THE ENGAGEMENT SURVEY WE JUST GOT DONE WITH A THIRD ONE.

THIS IS OUR THIRD COMMUNITY SURVEY THAT WE'VE DONE SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE.

THE PLAN IS TO DO THAT EVERY OTHER YEAR.

SOME, SOME COMMUNITIES SURVEY EVERY YEAR.

I'VE FOUND IT'S HARD TO GET A LOT OF TRACTION AND, AND PUT INITIATIVES IN PLACE IN A, WITHIN A MUNICIPAL CYCLE EVERY, YOU KNOW, 12 MONTHS.

AND SO I THINK THIS HAS BEEN VERY HELPFUL.

AND I DO LIKE THE RESULTS THAT WE HAD OUT OF THE SURVEY.

YOU'LL SEE THERE THAT WE HAD, UH, JUST UNDER 1600 PARTICIPANTS IN THIS SURVEY OF THE 1600, 408 WERE NON-RESIDENTS.

UM, OTHER SURVEYS WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST, WE'VE HAD A COMBINATION OF RESIDENT AND NON-RESIDENT SURVEYS.

MOST OF THOSE ARE, UH, COUNTY RESIDENTS.

SOME ARE OUTSIDE THE COUNTY THAT GIVE US FEEDBACK.

MAYBE FORMER RESIDENTS THAT USED TO LIVE HERE THAT ARE PAYING ATTENTION.

THE LAST SURVEYS, THE WAY WE PRESENTED THEM WE'RE VERY JUST FOCUSED ON WHAT IS OUR, WHAT ARE THE RESIDENTS TELLING US? THIS SURVEY, THIS TIME AROUND, WE APPROACHED IT SLIGHTLY DIFFERENTLY.

WE WANTED TO EMBRACE ALL THE FEEDBACK WE COULD AND WE, WE SOUGHT THAT OUT.

AND, AND THIS SURVEY IS GONNA BE VERY INSIGHTFUL FOR THAT REASON.

UM, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO LOOK AT, OF COURSE, OUR SERVICES THAT WE'RE PROVIDING OUR RESIDENTS.

WE WANNA KNOW HOW SATISFIED THEY ARE AND HOW WELL OF A JOB WE'RE DOING.

BUT WE ALSO NEED OTHER PERSPECTIVES OF PEOPLE WHO WORK HERE WHO WORSHIP HERE, GO TO SCHOOL HERE, PASS THROUGH HERE, WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE.

AND SO WE MAKE A LOT OF TWEAKS.

I'M GONNA NOTE THOSE FOR YOU AS WE GO ALONG WITH ALONG THIS PRESENTATION.

YOU CAN SEE HOW IT RANKED SURVEY SIZE FROM THE LAST YEAR.

A LOT OF THESE PRESENTATIONS, A LOT OF THESE SLIDES WILL SHOW CURRENT SURVEYS, UH, RESULTS.

AND THEN WE'LL HAVE A HISTORICAL COMPARISON TO JUST THE LAST SURVEY.

WE DIDN'T ADD THE THIRD SURVEY BEFORE.

THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF MODIFICATION SINCE THEN.

SO THE TRUE APPLES TO APPLES IS THE MOST RECENT SURVEY.

UH, I WON'T GO OVER THIS IN DETAIL.

YOU CAN READ THIS.

THIS IS A JUST A HIGH LEVEL SUMMARY.

UM, THERE'S SO MUCH DATA HERE.

YOU, THERE'S A LOT OF TALKING POINTS THAT AREN'T INCLUDED IN THIS SUMMARY.

I MEAN, YOU CAN LOOK AT THINGS, A MULTITUDE OF, UH, PERSPECTIVES THAT, THAT, THAT GLEAN INSIGHTS.

UM, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, I DO WANNA HIGHLIGHT THAT, THAT THERE WAS A LOT OF POSITIVE IMPROVEMENTS IN, IN MULTIPLE AREAS OF THE SURVEY.

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SO I, I'M REALLY PLEASED WITH WHAT, WHAT WE'RE SEEING.

ALRIGHT, THIS IS HOW WE, UH, THIS WAS A NEW CHANGE.

OF COURSE, WE HAVE REGIONS ONE THROUGH FIVE CORRELATE WITH THE COUNCIL DISTRICTS.

AND THEN THE LAST SURVEY WE JUST HAD NON-RESIDENTS.

WELL, HERE I WANTED TO LOOK AT IT A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY.

WITH ESPERANZA HAVING GROWN AS LARGE AS IT IS, AS IT HAS, WE CREATED ITS OWN SEPARATE DISTRICT.

THEY'RE ALMOST QUASI RESIDENTS BECAUSE THEY DO GET OUR WATER AND SEWER SERVICE AND FIRE SERVICE SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT THAN THE CORLEY FARMS. UH, WCID.

UM, AND SO WE HAD ITS OWN DISTRICT.

AND THEN OF COURSE, SEVEN IS KIND OF ALL THE, THE AREA NON-RESIDENTS, THE COUNTY AREA SOUTH, UH, 46 SOUTH OF, UH, UH, SOUTH GLEN, KIND OF FAIR OAKS.

WE GOT A LOT OF, UH, A LOT OF FEEDBACK FROM FAIR OAKS RESIDENTS AS WELL THAT HAD A BURNING MAILING ADDRESS.

EIGHT IS KIND OF WEST OF I 10 AND THEN NINE IS NORTH OF 46, KIND OF EAST OF I 10, UH, SO TO SPEAK.

I THINK MAYBE NEXT YEAR, NEXT SURVEY, WE MIGHT TRY TO CORRELATE THE, THE NON-RESIDENT AREAS WITH THE COUNTY PRECINCTS.

THAT MIGHT MAKE A LOT MORE SENSE.

I DIDN'T THINK ABOUT THAT IN TIME.

THIS TIME YOU CAN SEE THE PERCENTAGE MAKEUP OR PARTICIPATION OF EACH OF THOSE, UM, BY EACH OF THOSE REGIONS.

THIS IS JUST A HISTORICAL VIEW OR OF THE PARTICIPATION BY REGION.

UH, YOU KNOW, I WILL NOTE THERE'S THAT DROP OFF IN REGION THREE, BUT I ALSO, I NEED TO GO BACK AND SEE WHEN DID WE DO THE REDISTRICTING THAT MIGHT HAVE HAD A PLAY OR SOMETHING TO, TO DO WITH THAT.

UH, THE DEMOGRAPHICS, YOU CAN GO AND, AND LOOK AT THAT.

I WON'T NO OFF TIME HERE.

WHAT YOU CAN DO, YOU SEE ON THE RIGHT, UH, THAT COLUMN, 'EM THAT DEMO FILTERS.

IF YOU HAVE EXPERIENCE AND PLAYED AROUND WITH THE INTERACTIVE DASHBOARD, YOU CAN GO AND TURN FILTERS OFF.

YOU CAN SAY, HEY, I WANT TO KNOW, UM, ABOUT ANY, ANY OF THE SLIDE, ANY OF THE QUESTION.

YOU CAN SAY, TURN OFF ALL THE FEMALE RESPONSES OR TURN OFF ALL THE PEOPLE WHO'VE ONLY LIVED HERE FOR FIVE YEARS AND SEE WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.

GIVE ME JUST THE RESIDENCE PERSPECTIVE.

YOU CAN, YOU CAN CLICK OFF THE OTHER DISTRICTS.

SO THAT'S AN INTERACTIVE FEATURE THAT I LOVE ABOUT THIS SURVEY PROVIDER VERSUS SOME OTHER SURVEYS I'VE, I'VE UTILIZED IN THE PAST CITIES.

I LOVE THIS.

UH, THIS SLIDE WE GOT, THIS IS A NET PROMOTER SCORE.

IT'S CALLED AN NPS.

IF YOU SELL A PRODUCT, RETAIL, EVEN RESTAURANTS, THEY'LL USE THIS TO TRY TO UNDERSTAND THE POPULARITY OF, OF THE PRODUCT.

OUR PRODUCT IS THE QUALITY OF LIFE THAT WE BUILD HERE IN BURNING.

SO WOULD YOU REFER A FRIEND, A FAMILY MEMBER, A FRIEND TO COME LIVE IN BERNIE? AND THAT SCORE COMES OUT TO 59 AND THEY TAKE THE TOP FOUR BOXES, THE GREEN AND THE BLUE, AND THEY COME UP WITH THE SCORE AND YOU CAN SEE THE RANKINGS THERE.

UM, I'LL NOTE FOR YOU THAT WHEN YOU TAKE OFF, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE, JUST THE COUNTY, THE NON-RESIDENTS, THEY SCORE THAT AS 63.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT JUST THE CITY RESIDENCE, IT'S A 57.

I THINK THAT'S INTERESTING.

I DON'T KNOW WHY THAT IS.

BUT EVEN THE 59 IS A HIGHER SCORE THAN WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST.

AND YOU CAN COMPARE IT TO LAST YEAR.

THIS IS ALSO A NEW FEATURE THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE IN THE LAST SURVEY, IS THAT, IS THE ABILITY TO GO FILTER THE, THE, THE DIFFERENT DEMOGRAPHICS ON THE REFERRAL FRIEND SCORE.

YOU CAN SEE THAT THOSE THAT LIVE HERE LESS THAN ONE YEAR THINK, YOU KNOW, THINK WE'RE THE BEST THINGS SINCE SLICED BREAD, RIGHT? AND THEN AS IT GRADUALLY GET, YOU'VE BEEN HERE LONGER, IT STARTS TO GO DOWN.

WE SEE THE SAME THING IN OUR EMPLOYEE ENGAGEMENT SURVEYS.

THE LONGER YOU'VE BEEN AN EMPLOYEE HERE, YOU KIND OF GO DOWN BECAUSE YOU SEE SO MUCH CHANGE, RIGHT? AND SO THAT'S THE WHOLE CONCEPT ABOUT EMPLOYEE ENGAGEMENT IS BEING MINDFUL OF ALL OF THAT AND BEING INTENTIONAL AND DELIBERATE WITH WHAT WE DO TO KEEP THOSE SCORES HIGH, RIGHT? AND I, AND I'M HOPEFUL THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO DO SOME OF THIS IF WE CONTINUE TO USE THIS TOOL IN OUR ARSENAL EVERY, EVERY OTHER YEAR OVER A LONG AMOUNT OF TIME.

PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THAT WE SEEK THEIR OPINION, SEEK THEIR FEEDBACK, OR WE'RE LISTENING TO 'EM AND THEY SEE ACT ACTIVE, INTENTIONAL, UM, UH, ACHIEVEMENT OR INITIATIVES ASSOCIATED WITH THOSE.

UH, LETTER.

THIS QUESTION HERE, YOU KNOW, WE DO THE REFERRAL FRIEND SCORE, THEN WE ASK, OKAY, COMPARED TO OTHER CITIES AROUND HOW DO WE COMPARE? AND YOU CAN SEE, UH, THOSE SCORES, THESE ARE ACTUALLY WENT THROUGH THE ROOF BETTER THAN LAST SURVEY.

AND I'LL SHOW YOU THAT IN A MINUTE.

WE ALSO ASKED A NEW QUESTION, AND THAT'S THIS ONE UP HERE.

WE HAVE NEVER ASKED THIS BEFORE.

HOW LONG DO YOU ENVISION YOURSELF LIVING IN THE CITY? WE WANTED TO KIND OF GET THE FORWARD THINKING, UH, PERSPECTIVE BY PEOPLE.

OF COURSE WE KNOW THAT'S THAT'S GONNA CHANGE,

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BUT THAT SEEMS PRETTY HEALTHY RIGHT THERE AS WELL.

SO HERE'S THAT COMPARISON.

YOU KNOW, COMPARED TO OTHER CITIES, HOW WE DID, YOU CAN SEE IT WAS 33% IN 23 WITH 6% BEING MUCH WORSE IN 23 TO NOW THAT 49% MUCH BETTER AND 2% MUCH WORSE.

I THINK A LOT OF WHAT WE'VE DONE THE LAST YEAR TO REALLY HONE IN ON, UM, OUR UNIQUE COMMUNITY CHARM, THAT SMALL TOWN FIELD, YOU'LL SEE THOSE KIND OF METRICS THAT HAD IMPROVED DRASTICALLY OVER THE LAST SURVEY ON THAT ZOOM CALL.

DIDN'T HE SAY THAT'S RARE FOR A FAST GROWTH COMMUNITY? WASN'T THAT HE DID? I'M ABOUT TO GO THERE.

YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

TIME'S AT A GOOD POINT.

UM, FACT, SEE YEAH, RIGHT HERE.

OH, SO OUT OF, SO THIS CONSULTANT IN THE LAST YEAR, HE, HE'S DONE THESE SURVEYS, UM, WITH CLIENTS ACROSS THE COUNTRY.

GEORGIA, NO WEST, A LOT IN TEXAS.

AND YOU CAN SEE THE REFER OF FRIEND SCORE WE'RE AT 59 AND OUR LAST ONE WAS 58 AND ONE BEFORE THAT WAS 54.

SO IT'S IMPROVING, BUT WE'RE NOT AS HIGH AS SOME OF THESE OTHER CITIES.

BUT WHAT HE'S NOTED IS THESE CITIES UP HERE, THE HIGHEST SCORES ARE BUILT OUT.

THEY'RE NOT EXPERIENCING HIGH GROWTH.

HE, WE, WE ASKED HIM IF HE COULD INCLUDE SOME SORT OF GROWTH RATIO HERE, BUT, AND HE WAS GONNA LOOK INTO IT.

HE WASN'T ABLE TO DO IT.

HOWEVER, WHAT HE, YOU CAN SEE HOW, HOW WE COMPARED TO, WE ASKED HOW PRESIDENT OF OTHER CITIES WHERE WE'RE AT 23 WE'RE 66, 21.

WE WERE 69.

SO WE ACTUALLY WENT DOWN TO 23, THE LAST SURVEY.

BUT HERE WE'RE UP TO 80.

I THINK, UM, THE INTENTIONALITY BEHIND SOME OF OUR COMMUNITY EVENTS, OUR COMMUNICATION, OUR MESSAGING ACTUALLY IS RESONATING WITH HOW WE'RE DIFFERENT THAN, THAN THE, THAN THE OTHER SUBURBS AROUND AROUND SAN ANTONIO.

HOW WE'RE DIFFERENT THAN THE OTHER HILL COUNTRY COMMUNITIES IN A, IN A HIGHWAY NATURE OF EXCELLENCE AND, AND, UH, UNIQUENESS, RIGHT? WE'RE EMBRACING THAT.

AND, AND SO KUDOS TO THE, TO ALL THE DEPARTMENTS FOR THAT.

I'D LIKE TO EXPLORE THAT A LOT MORE.

I THINK THAT'S, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, ASTY BROUGHT UP CONSULTANT THOUGHT THAT WAS VERY UNIQUE AND DIFFERENT THAN THE WAY IT SEEMS. ALL RIGHT, SO THEN WE GET INTO THE KIND OF THE MEAT OF THE SURVEY.

THERE'S LIKE FIVE DIFFERENT MODULES WHERE WE ASK THEM A SERIES OF, OF WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO YOU.

SO HERE'S THE AMENITIES, THESE ARE LIBRARIES AND PARKS AND KIND OF THE FEEL GOOD AMENITIES THAT A, ANY TYPE OF COMMUNITY MIGHT OFFER.

WE DIDN'T ASK EACH PARTICIPANT AND YOU WENT AND DID THE SURVEY YOURSELF.

SO YOU KNOW HOW THIS WORKED.

WE DIDN'T ASK YOU TO RATE EACH ONE OF THESE.

WE SAID, WHICH ONES ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT? PICK TWO OUT OF ALL THESE, RIGHT? THAT, AND I'LL ALSO ADD, WE HAD TO ALMOST 1600 RESPONSES ACCORDING TO THE CONSULTANT, WE ONLY NEEDED ABOUT 600 TO MAKE THIS A SCIENTIFICALLY VALID UH, UH, SURVEY.

AND SO FOR ME, I WAS REALLY, UH, INTERESTED IN MAKING SURE WE HAD 600 RESPONSES AT LEAST FOR RESIDENTS IN THE CITY THAT WERE EQUALLY SPREAD OUT ACROSS ALL FIVE COUNCIL DISTRICTS.

ANYTHING ABOVE THAT IS GRADING, RIGHT? AND UM, SO WE GOT, WE GOT, UH, THE RESPONSE THERE.

SO YOU CAN SEE, OKAY, OUT OF ALL THESE AMENITIES, UH, ASPECTS, WHAT WERE THE MOST IMPORTANT CITY PARKS AND OPEN SPACES, CITY HIKE AND BIKE TRAILS.

AND THEN THEY'LL ASK YOU YOUR SATISFACTION AND DISSATISFACTION ON THOSE.

ALL RIGHT? SO YOU CAN SEE THAT WITH THE AMENITY SNAPSHOT.

SEE WHAT NOTES I HAD HERE ON THIS.

THE INTERESTING THING ABOUT THE CITY POOL, RIGHT? 63% DISSATISFACTION.

THAT'S OUR HIGHEST DISSATISFACTION.

BUT ONLY 12% OF THE FOLKS THAT TOOK THE SURVEY FELT LIKE THAT WAS A AMENITY THAT WAS IMPORTANT.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT BETWEEN RESIDENT AND NON-RESIDENT, THE RESIDENTS ACTUALLY VIEWED THAT AT 13% OR AT 10% OR NON-RESIDENT, BUT THE DISSATISFACTION WAS THE HIGHEST WITH THE NON-RESIDENTS AT 73%, 61% WITH THE CITY POOL .

SO THAT'S KIND OF THE UNIQUENESS YOU CAN GO AND PLAY AROUND WITH FILTERS.

ONE THING I WOULD POINT OUT, LIKE YOU COULD SEE A BIG TURNAROUND IF YOU HAD, I'M NOT GONNA SAY WE, I'M JUST GONNA SAY IF WE HAD A REALLY HIGHEND PUBLIC POOL FEATURE SLIDES AND WE WE WENT ALL IN.

I MEAN YOU COULD SEE THAT TURNAROUND BIG TIME IN SATISFACTION AND IT COULD BE MUCH HIGHER ON, WE JUST HAVE A VERY BASIC POOL THAT'S BEEN THERE FOR 30, 40 YEARS.

AND, AND SO I, I COULD SEE WHY THE SATISFACTION OF THIS POOR SCALE IS SUCH A, A LARGE, I MEAN, SO A LOT OF FACTORS.

EVERYONE, NO ONE HAS ANYTHING NICE TO SAY ABOUT THE POOL.

WELL, A LOT OF FACTORS THERE TOO.

WE GOTTA SCORE TWO WITH THE SCHOOL UTILIZATION AND WHO, WHO'S DRIVING THAT.

SO BETWEEN NOW AND THE NEXT SURVEY, THE SCHOOL FACILITY WILL BE OPEN AND IT'LL BE INTERESTING TO SEE WHAT THE DATA IS.

WE'RE NOT GONNA NEGLECT IT.

WE'LL DEFINITELY LOOK INTO IT AND SEE WHAT TYPE OF TLC NEEDS TO BE DONE THERE, BUT IT WILL, BUT THE UTILIZATION,

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THE PATRONS TO THAT AMENITY ARE GONNA CHANGE DRASTICALLY HERE WITHIN THE NEXT, BETWEEN NOW AND THE NEXT SURVEY.

QUESTION BEN ON THE RATING.

A GOOD, OKAY, FOUR, DID YOU, EVERYBODY RATED EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THOSE OR ONLY IF YOU CHOSE 'EM AS TOP TWO ONLY CHOSE THOSE TOP.

SO ONLY THAT 12 THAT CHOSE A FOUR WOULD'VE RATED IT, RIGHT? SO IT WAS IMPORTANT TO YOU RATED.

ABSOLUTELY.

GOOD POINT.

THE OTHER THING IS, IS AS AS I GO INTO EVERY SURVEY TOOL, I'M THINKING, OKAY, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT DATA WOULD BE GOOD USEFUL TO US? MAYBE DO WE NEED TO LOOK AT THINGS DIFFERENTLY? SO THERE'S ACTUALLY A COUPLE OF THESE THINGS THAT ARE WORDED DIFFERENTLY OR CHANGED FROM THE LAST SURVEY.

SO FOR EXAMPLE, CITY HIKE BIKE TRAILS AND SIDEWALKS WAS A, A SEPARATE ONE BY ITSELF.

I THINK IT WAS LUMPED IN WAS SOMETHING THAT THE PRIOR SURVEY, UH, ATHLETIC PLAYING FIELDS, COURTS AND TEAM PRACTICE FIELDS, WE'VE HEARD SO MUCH ABOUT THAT.

I WANTED TO KNOW MORE ABOUT THAT.

SO I MADE IT IT A SEPARATE DEAL.

UH, PLAYGROUNDS AND PUBLIC ART, THOSE WERE KIND OF, I THINK WE HAD A ATHLETIC FIELDS AND PARK AND PLAYGROUNDS COMBINED.

SO I SPREAD, SEPARATED THOSE.

YOU KNOW, WITH OUR FOCUS ON THE ARTS STRATEGIC PLAN, I WANTED TO KNOW HOW PEOPLE FELT ABOUT PUBLIC ART MURALS.

SO THAT'S A NEW ADDITION.

SO YOU'RE GONNA SEE A LOT OF NEW ADDITIONS THROUGHOUT THESE MODULES THAT ARE GONNA BE GIVE US EVEN GREATER, UH, DETAIL AND DATA FOR US TO UTILIZE.

ALRIGHT, SO HERE AGAIN, YOU CAN COMPARE 23 TO 24 AND YOU'LL SEE IF IT HAS AN NA THAT MEANS I DIDN'T, WE DIDN'T ASK THE PUBLIC ABOUT PUBLIC ART IN 23.

IN 24 WE DID, OR IN 24 WE DIDN'T ASK IT.

WE ASKED ABOUT NEIGHBORHOOD CLEANUP EVENTS AND RECREATION PROGRAMS FOR ALL AGES.

'CAUSE WE DID SOMETHING DIFFERENT THROUGHOUT THE SURVEY ON THAT.

AND SO IT JUST IS WORDED DIFFERENTLY.

YEAH, I WAS THINKING LIKE FOR UM, ATHLETIC, THAT WAS PROBABLY LUMPED INTO CITY PARKS SO IT WENT DOWN, BUT THAT'S PROBABLY PART OF THE REASON IT WENT DOWN IS BECAUSE IT'S A SET.

THERE'S, YEAH, YOU'LL SEE SOME OF THAT, RIGHT? UH, THE OTHER PIECE IS, YOU KNOW, THE YMC EVERY NOW AND THEN WILL COME IN AND SAY, HEY, LET'S TALK ABOUT OUR FUTURE PARTNERSHIP AND WE WANT MORE MONEY OR DO THIS.

AND WE ALWAYS LISTEN, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE HAVE GOOD DATA FOR THREE SURVEYS ABOUT HOW PEOPLE FEEL ABOUT THE YMCA OR, OR THEY'LL COME AND SAY, WE WANT TO DO THESE AMENITIES.

AND WE'LL SAY, WELL I DON'T KNOW IF THOSE AMENITIES REPORT TO US BASED ON WHAT OUR SURVEY, WE GIVE 'EM THIS DATA.

THIS DATA IS SO HELPFUL NOT ONLY TO US AND HOW WE DO OUR BUDGET ALLOCATIONS, BUT WHEN WE HAVE COMMUNITY COMMUNITY PARTNERS THAT COME TO, TO US ON THINGS, WE CAN POINT THE STUFF, UH, THAT YOU KNOW, HEY, THIS IS WHAT OUR RESIDENTS AND NON-RESIDENTS ARE TELLING US.

ANY THOUGHTS OR OBSERVATIONS HERE? ANY POSSIBILITY OF TAKING SOME OF THESE, UM, MOST IMPORTANT ATTRIBUTES AND UTILIZING THAT IN THE FUTURE SURVEY OR YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY IF THERE'S A HIGHER, HIGHER DISSATISFACTION RATE, YOU KNOW, ASKING CITIZENS, WELL HOW, WHAT IS YOUR VISION FOR IT? WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE IT TO LOOK LIKE? ABSOLUTELY.

LIKE THE BERNIE CITY.

LIKE WHY, WHY IS THERE WHATEVER, CALL US, DIG DOWN SURVEYS WHERE WE WANT TO GO GET MINING MORE INFORMATION AND, AND IN FACT WE'VE ALREADY HAD CONVERSATIONS ABOUT OUR PARK SYSTEM IN GENERAL.

IN GENERAL, NOT ONLY ATHLETIC FIELDS, BUT, BUT ALL THE PARTS AND THE AMENITIES AND EVERYTHING.

WE CAN GET A SURVEY, THAT TOOL THAT WOULD DO THAT FOR US.

WELL, I THINK THAT THERE'S SOME SURPRISES.

WE MIGHT DO IT FOR UNDERSTANDING, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER.

I MEAN, HEY, APPARENTLY THEY THINK WE'RE DOING A GOOD JOB WITH THE UNIQUE CHARM OF OUR COMMUNITY IN THE SMALL TOWN FIELD.

WHAT EXACTLY ARE WE DOING? RIGHT? SO PROBABLY THE THREE.

OH, ALRIGHT.

SO THE NEXT ONE WAS CITY BENEFITS.

UM, I'LL JUST SHOW THAT WE SPLIT SOME THINGS OUT HERE TOO.

I, WELL PRIOR WAS CITY EVENTS AND IT WAS WORDED DIFFERENTLY HERE ABOUT RENT PROGRAM OR SOME SORT OF PROGRAMS. I KIND OF MADE A COMMUNITY ADVANCED FIREWORKS FESTIVALS.

SO SLIGHT WORD CHANGES THERE.

UM, CITY OPEN SPACE, IT USED TO BE GREEN SPACES AND I'D CALL IT CITY OPEN SPACES.

UH, PROXIMITY TO SAN ANTONIO AMENITIES WAS A NEW ONE WE ADDED THIS YEAR.

KIND OF WANTED TO KNOW.

SO YOU CAN SEE WHERE THAT IS.

AGAIN, SMALL TOWN FILL.

UM, WHEN YOU LOOK AT SMALL TOWN FEEL, IT WAS 53% IMPORTANT IN LAST SURVEY, 57%.

BUT YOU CAN SEE THE DROP IN DISSATISFACTION FROM 35% TO 26%.

THAT'S A SIGNIFICANT DROP.

UM, EASY COMMUTE TO WORK.

YOU SEE IT'S KIND OF COMPARABLE WHAT'S IMPORTANT, BUT IT WENT UP 3%.

YOU KNOW WHY THAT DROPPED MEAN WHY THAT SMALL TOWN FIELD IS DOING BETTER? BECAUSE NEWER PEOPLE ARE LIVING FROM MORE POPULATED AREAS.

SO THEY VIEW IT AS A SMALL TOWN.

PEOPLE HAVE BEEN THERE 30 YEARS.

THINK IT'S TOO BIG WHEN YOU CAN USE THAT DASHBOARD TO FIND OUT EXACTLY FILTER.

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WE WERE LIKE, OH, THIS DEFINITELY HAD TO BE CITY PEOPLE.

AND THEN YOU DO LIKE COUNTY, YOU KNOW, OVER 15.

YOU'RE LIKE, OKAY, WELL NEVERMIND .

COUPLE TIMES WE DID THAT.

WE WERE LIKE, WE WRONG.

WELL, I THINK THAT THAT'S WHY IT WAS SO HIGH IN AN EARLIER SLIDE, 85% FELT LIKE ERNIE WAS THE BEE'S KNEES, BUT THEY PROBABLY CAME FROM EITHER ANOTHER CITY.

I DIDN'T A LOT OF PEOPLE COMING FROM DALLAS, HOUSTON, WHATNOT, OR FROM ANOTHER STATE FOR THAT MATTER.

AND PROBABLY GOT A LOT MORE MONEY FOR THEIR, A LOT MORE HOUSE FOR THEIR MONEY COMPARED TO THEY MOVED FROM, RIGHT? YOU KNOW.

UM, WE ASKED ABOUT QUALITY SHOPPING, QUALITY RESTAURANTS.

I THINK IN PRIOR IT WAS ASKED, IT WAS KIND OF LUMP TOGETHER, YOU KNOW, IT WAS SEPARATE, SEPARATED OUT, BUT YOU KNOW, QUALITY SHOPPING, WHAT WAS THAT? OH SAY ONLY 6% RATED AND IMPORTANT, BUT UH, STILL 50%, 49% DISSATISFACTION.

SO WHAT ABOUT THE LARGE SHOPPING? BUT AGAIN, IT'S JUST A SMALL PERCENTAGE OF PEOPLE WHO EVEN NEED THAT.

IMPORTANT, ALRIGHT, GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT.

SO THIS ONE, AND THEN WE'RE GONNA GET INTO MOBILITY.

THESE ARE THE ONES THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS WHERE THOSE HIGH GROWTH COMMUNITIES BUILD THE FRICTION.

UM, AND SO MANAGING GROWTH AND DENSITY HAS ALWAYS BEEN OUR HIGHEST, UH, UH, MOST IMPORTANT THING IN THIS, IN THIS MODULE.

YOU CAN SEE THE DISSATISFACTION THERE AT 66, UH, PERCENT.

UH, I THINK MAINTAINING THE CITY'S UNIQUE COMMUNITY TRAUMA WAS WORDED DIFFICULT.

USED TO BE SOMETHING ELSE THAT IT REALLY MEASURED THE SAME THING.

I'M JUST POINTING THAT OUT.

UM, TREE PRESERVATION WAS A NEW ONE I WANTED TO ASK ABOUT THAT WASN'T THERE FOR HISTORICAL PRESERVATION.

YOU KNOW, THOSE, WE'VE HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS THIS YEAR, SOME FEEDBACK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS, WHAT DO WE, SHOULD WE DO MORE? SHOULD WE, WE THINK WHAT IT'S WORKING.

AND I THINK THE DATA SHOWS THAT WHAT WE HAVE IN PLACE IS A GOOD THING, BUT IT'S, WE ALSO SAW THAT IT'S IMPORTANT TO, UM, TO OUR, UH, COMMUNITY.

UH, I ASKED ABOUT SHOULD WE REVIEW THE CITY DEVELOPMENT CODES AND REQUIREMENTS FOR PROCESS EFFICIENCY OPPORTUNITIES.

I DON'T KNOW IF PEOPLE REALLY UNDERSTOOD WHAT I WAS MAYBE LOOKING FOR, BUT I WANTED TO OFFER THAT UP.

9% SAID THAT WAS IMPORTANT AND 54% SAID THEY DISSATISFIED WITH IT.

PEDESTRIAN SAFETY DISSATISFACTION WAS 55% LESS.

UM, OFFERING A VARIETY OF HOUSING TYPES.

WE HEAR ABOUT THAT QUITE A BIT FROM STAFF PERSPECTIVE.

BUT THEN AT THE END OF THE DAY, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE PARTICIPATE.

DIDN'T SEE THAT AS A, THAT BIG OF AN IMPORTANT THING.

AND THEN TOURISM GROWTH.

I I, I, WE DIDN'T ASK ABOUT THAT.

WE WANTED TO KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? I THINK LARRY AND HIS TEAM DOES A PHENOMENAL JOB, BUT ON PROMOTING OUR BUSINESSES HERE AND WORKING WITH THE HOTELS.

SO, CAN I MAKE A COMMENT ON THE FIRST THING? NUMBER ONE THING IS MANAGE GROWTH AND LAND USE AND ZONING CODES.

YOU AND I TALKED ABOUT THIS, I THINK THE CITY'S LAND USE PLAN NEEDS TO BE REVIEWED.

THE REASON IS THAT WHEN THAT PLAN WAS DEVISED, THINGS HAVE CHANGED.

SO FOR EXAMPLE, YOU HAVE AN AREA THAT MAY HAVE BEEN IN LAND USE PLAN FOR X, Y, OR Z PURPOSE, BUT NOW 10 THINGS ARE GOING AROUND IT.

AND MAYBE THAT CHANGES THE, THE METRIC OF WHAT THAT LAND USE SHOULD BE.

SO I REALLY THINK THAT SHOULD BE, IN FACT, YOU CAN SEE HERE, I MEAN MEAN THERE WAS A SIGNIFICANT DROP IN WHO THOUGHT THAT WAS IMPORTANT, ALTHOUGH IT STILL IS THE NUMBER ONE THING.

THE DISSATISFACTION IS RELATIVELY THE SAME.

I THINK, UH, YOU KNOW, WE TALKED ABOUT MAINTAINING THE CITY'S UNIQUE COMMUNITY CHARM AND IT USED TO BE MAINTAIN THE CITY'S UNIQUE HERITAGE AND IDENTITY.

THAT'S WHERE THAT KIND OF WORDSMITH HAPPENED.

HISTORICAL PRESERVATION, WHERE APPROPRIATE 11% SAID THAT'S IMPORTANT, AND THE 18% DISSATISFIED.

AND OF COURSE, AND YOU GUYS KNOW, AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT IN A MINUTE, ANY OF THESE MODULES, YOU CAN THEN GO IN AND LOOK AT THE, THE OPEN-ENDED QUESTIONS WE ASK TWO QUESTIONS OF, OF ALL EACH PARTICIPANT TELL US WHATEVER THEY WANT.

SOME OF 'EM GAVE US A LOT OF FEEDBACK, AND THEN SOME, SOME CHOSE NOT TO.

WE CAN HONE IN, OKAY, WHERE ARE THE GROWTH? THERE'S A LOT OF GROWTH RELATED COMMENTS.

THERE'S SOME PARK RELATED ONES, PICKLE BALL RELATED ONES, CONGESTION RELATED HOMES.

TALK ABOUT SAFETY AND SECURITY.

THESE ALL PRETTY MUCH WERE THE, ALL THE SAME QUESTIONS, UM, FROM BEFORE.

I DO WANT TO HIGHLIGHT, UM, UH, TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT.

UH, DISSATISFACTION IS 48%.

IT WAS 67% OF FIRE SURVEY.

SO CHIEF PEREZ, UH, YOU KNOW, WITH ALL MORE CARS ON THE ROAD, WE HEAR THAT A LOT.

AND SO DOING OUR, OUR NEIGHBORHOOD STREETS AND OUR MAIN COLLECTORS AND KIND OF TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT.

SO WE SAW SOME IMPROVEMENTS THERE.

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SURVEY THAT DROPPED TO 43.

SOLICITOR PANHANDLE CONTROL WAS 56% DISSATISFACTION LAST TIME.

NOW IT'S 38.

THE FIRE EMS RESPONSE WAS 18%.

NOW IT'S, OR DISSATISFACTION, NOW IT'S 8% DISSATISFACTION.

SO I THINK A LOT OF GOOD MESSAGES HERE FROM THE POLICE AND FIRE AND EMS SAFETY, SECURITY, UH, STANDPOINT.

AND, AND WHAT I WILL NOTE IS THERE'S NOT ONE THING THAT HAD DISSATISFACTION OVER 50% IN THIS QUADRANT.

SO AGAIN, YOU CAN SEE THE HISTORICAL, UH, ASPECTS THERE.

MOBILITY AND INFRASTRUCTURE, AGAIN, ANOTHER BIG, UH, FRICTION POINT ALWAYS HAS BEEN, UH, TRAFFIC AND ROAD CONGESTION MANAGEMENT.

UH, HIGHEST, UH, MOST IMPORTANT.

BUT THEN ALSO DISSATISFACTION.

UM, THERE'S A LOT OF NEW THINGS HERE.

I, I, I LOOKED AT DIFFERENTLY, REWARDED SOME THINGS I WANT 'CAUSE I WANTED TO ADD SOME OTHER ELEMENTS TO GET SOME GREATER DATA TO, UH, WE WE, EASE OF PUBLIC PARKING.

DOWNTOWN IS A NEW THING WE ASKED ABOUT.

UM, WE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT POSSIBLE COLLABORATIONS WITH THE COUNTY ON SOME DOWNTOWN PARKING.

AND WE, WE'LL TALK TO ANY PROPERTY OWNER ABOUT ADDING MORE PARKING IN STRATEGIC LOCATIONS.

UH, I WANTED TO KNOW MORE ABOUT THE EAST EASE OF TRAVEL BY, BY BIKE AROUND TOWN.

WE'VE ALWAYS ASKED ABOUT BICYCLE LANES, BUT I WANT TO KNOW MORE ABOUT OUR PEOPLE.

DO PEOPLE THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO EVEN LOOK AT? UH, WANTED TO REALLY LOOK AT OUR CONSERVATION EFFORTS IN OUR UTILITY SYSTEMS. I WANTED TO LOOK AT ROADWAY STRIPING AND SIGNAGE BEFORE WE JUST HAD ROADWAY MAINTENANCE.

AND SO WE, WE STILL TRACK WHERE WEIGHT MAINTENANCE SOMEWHERE, BUT I ALSO WANT TO LOOK AT STRIPING AND SIGNAGE.

'CAUSE WE HEAR, WE GET COMMENTS ABOUT THAT AS WELL.

SO THAT'S A NEW THING.

AND THEN ALSO A NEW ONE IS CONDITION OF PUBLIC BUILDINGS.

WE SEE THAT IN A LOT OF OTHER COMMUNITY SURVEYS.

WE'VE NEVER ASKED ABOUT IT.

I THINK OUR, UH, WE'VE GOT SOME REALLY GREAT FACILITIES AND THEN WE GOT SOME FACILITIES WE NEED TO WORK ON.

ALRIGHT, AGAIN, HISTORICAL, UH, ASPECTS THERE.

AND YOU CAN THAT.

NOW, AFTER WE ASKED THEM TO RATE THESE, THEN WE SAID, OKAY, IF YOU HAD YOU TELL US ONE MOBILITY IMPROVEMENT, WHAT WOULD IT BE? THAT'S A NEW QUESTION WE DIDN'T ASK THAT LAST TIME.

SO THERE'S A WHOLE SET OF MOBILITY COMMENTS, UM, THAT WERE PROVIDED US.

WELL, ONLY 43% OF THE, UH, 1600 PEOPLE GAVE US A COMMENT.

BUT THAT YOU CAN SEE THE KIND OF THE CATEGORIES THAT ARE LUMPED IN.

BUT YOU CAN GO IN, IF YOU'RE ON THE INTERACTIVE DASHBOARD, YOU CAN GO CLICK ON THAT CATEGORY.

THEN YOU CAN SEE ALL THE COMMENTS IN YOUR BINDER.

I'VE PROVIDED, WE'VE PROVIDED YOU THOSE COMMENTS BY DISTRICT.

SO IF YOU GO INTO TAB TWO, THAT'S ACTUALLY DISTRICT ONE AND YOU'LL SEE THE MAP OF, OF THAT AREA.

AND THEN YOU'LL SEE ALL THE COMMENTS IN BLUE, THE MOBILITY COMMENTS.

AND YOU CAN SEE IT FOR EACH OF YOUR DISTRICTS.

BUT IF YOU WANT TO SEE 'EM AND BY CATEGORY, YOU GO INTO THE INTERACTIVE DASHBOARD AND PLAY AROUND WITH IT THAT WAY.

I WON'T GO ON TO THE MOBILITY THING TOO MUCH OTHER THAN IT SEEMS A LOT LOUDER ON OUR SURVEYS, UH, OF THIS SURVEY VERSUS LAST TWO PROBABLY 'CAUSE OF THE, THE GROWTH THAT'S COME NOT JUST IN THE TOWN, BUT AROUND TOWN.

THERE'S A LOT OF COMMENTS.

UH, LOCALLY, OUR RESIDENTS WANTS TO FOCUS ON INTERSECTIONS AND PEDESTRIAN, UH, SAFETY AND PEDESTRIAN IMPROVEMENTS AND TRAFFIC CONGESTIONS ON THE STREETS IN TOWN, FOLKS OUTSIDE THE COUNTY, THERE'S A LOT OF THEMES OF, HEY, WE WANT TO JUST GET TO I 10 BETTER, EASIER, RIGHT? AND THAT MAKES SENSE.

I, YOU KNOW, SO THERE'S A LOT OF THOSE KIND OF THEMES, UH, IN THOSE COMMENTS.

ALRIGHT, SO THAT WAS, THOSE WERE ALL THE MOLECULES.

ONCE YOU GET, ONCE WE GOT DONE, THE CONSULTANT NOW IS ABLE TO PROVIDE US A ROADMAP.

HERE'S THE TOP 20.

EVERYONE SCORE THE TOP.

YOU KNOW, SO YOU SEE THE IMPORTANCE OF THEM, THE TOP 20.

AND THEN YOU CAN SEE WHAT THOSE DISSATISFACTION OR SATISFACTION LEVELS ARE.

YOU KNOW, SOME OF THOSE THINGS.

UM, THEY'RE KIND OF JUST BENEFITS, LIKE A GREAT PLACE TO RAISE CHILDREN OR 9% RATED ARE IMPORTANT.

IT'S 81% VERY GOOD.

SO WE KNOW THE SET KNOWS THAT LIBRARY KNOWS THAT THEY NEED TO FOCUS.

CONTINUE FOCUSING ON KID PROGRAMS BECAUSE THAT'S IMPORTANT TO 'EM.

THIS COMMUNITY, IT'S IN OUR TOP 20.

UM, I WOULD LOVE TO BE ABLE TO, AS WE GET THE WHEELS IN MOTION AND WE'RE FOCUSING ON THESE THINGS TO BRING THOSE, THAT DISSATISFACTION SCORES DOWN BELOW THE 50%.

RIGHT? THAT'S MY, THAT'S MY GOAL.

UM, AT SOME POINT HERE, WE'LL BE ABLE TO DO THAT.

NOW, SOME

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OF THIS STUFF'S GONNA TAKE MONUMENTAL EFFORT BY A LOT MORE THAN JUST THE CITY OF BURNING TO DO, RIGHT? I MEAN, EVEN THE SMALL TOWN FIELD, AGAIN, IT'S IN OUR TOP FIVE AND IT'S DISSATISFACTION IS 26, RIGHT? SO THERE'S A LOT OF GOOD THINGS HERE THAT TOUT AS WELL.

SCHOOL CAMPUS SAFETY SUPPORTS THE LOWEST ON THE THING.

WE HAVE A GREAT PARTNERSHIP WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT ON THAT.

YOU SEE VERY LOW DISSATISFACTION.

SO MY MESSAGE TO THE STAFF AS WE GO TO DO BUDGET KICKOFF IS, HEY, LET'S FOCUS ON THE WHOLE SURVEY.

BUT REALLY THIS SHOULD BE THE ROADMAP.

WHAT ARE YOU GONNA DO ON ANY OF THESE AREAS THAT, THAT CONNECT TO THEIR DEPARTMENTS? HOW ARE WE GONNA MOVE THE NEEDLE ON SOME OF THOSE INITIATIVES? REAL QUICK, BEN, THERE'S ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY HERE.

WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT BONDS, FUTURE BOND OPPORTUNITIES, THESE, THESE AREAS THAT EVERYONE IDENTIFIES AS VERY POOR ARE, THEY OBVIOUSLY THINK WE NEED TO DO A LOT MORE FOR THOSE AREAS.

SO IF THEY'RE, IF THEY'RE, UH, OPPORTUNITIES WHERE THEY'RE VERY IMPORTANT AND THEY GET VERY POOR, THOSE COULD BE OPPORTUNITIES FOR FUTURE BOND PROJECTS.

ALTHOUGH BOND PROJECTS FOR MOBILITY STUFF, WE, WE PASSED, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, A WHILE BACK, WE'RE NOT, STILL NOT QUITE GOT TO 'EM YET, BUT, BUT YOU KNOW, AFTER THE VERY FIRST SURVEY, 'CAUSE WE'RE HEARING ABOUT PICKLEBALL, SO WE GOT PICKLEBALL COMMENTS THERE AND WE KNEW THAT'S DESIGNED PICKLEBALL STUFF IN OUR PARTS.

YOU'RE RIGHT, THIS IS HOW THIS THREADS TOGETHER STRATEGICALLY IN OUR RESOURCE ALLOCATION OR OUR BUDGET INITIATIVES OR WHAT WE TAKE TO THE VOTERS.

WE ALSO, THERE'S A LOT OF NUGGETS HERE THAT WE PROBABLY NEED TO LOOK AT.

HOW DO WE COMMUNICATE MAYBE DIFFERENTLY? THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS OF DISSATISFACTION THAT I KNOW WE'RE DOING REALLY, REALLY WELL.

AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT EVEN AT COUNCIL.

I MEAN, RIGHT HERE.

NUMBER FOUR, MANAGING THE CITY'S WATER RESOURCES THAT WE'VE HAD.

HOW MANY PRESENTATIONS OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS, RIGHT? THAT DISSATISFACTION IS, UH, VERY LOW.

UM, OR VERY HIGH, I SHOULD SAY.

IT'S IMPORTANT.

BUT WE KNOW THAT OUR UTILITY FOOTPRINT IS ONLY A SMALL PIECE OF THE OVERALL REGIONAL WATER CONCERN, RIGHT? AND SO HOW DO WE MAKE THOSE CONNECTIONS? THAT'S GONNA BE A HARD ONE TO DO, ESPECIALLY IN THE ENVIRONMENT WHERE, WHERE WE HAVE LESS RAIN AND WATER'S ON THE LINE.

UM, TREE PRESERVATION, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOME COMMENTS IN THERE WHERE WE'RE, WE'RE BEING, UM, CRITICIZED FOR TREES THAT BEEN CUT DOWN THAT ARE IN NEIGHBORHOODS WAY OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMITS, BUT THEY DON'T KNOW THAT BIRDIE BOUNDARY UM, ORDER OR WHATNOT.

SO THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT WE'VE ALREADY HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH DIRECTOR SHADROCK ON AND ON, WHAT WE MIGHT DO DIFFERENTLY.

AND I HAVE SOME THOUGHTS ON HOW I MIGHT INCORPORATE A CITIZEN SURVEY FEEDBACK, WHAT WE'VE HEARD INTO MY CITY MANAGER'S REPORT AT COUNCIL MEETINGS.

I MAY ASK FOR YOUR HELP AND SOME OF THAT AS WELL.

I MAY EVEN CALL ON YOU AND SAY, HEY, HERE'S SOME COMMENTS FROM YOUR DISTRICT.

WHY DON'T YOU READ 'EM OUT LOUD AND THEN WE'LL TALK ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DOING OR NOT DOING OR WHY, AND MAKE SOME CONNECTIONS THERE.

ALRIGHT? SO AGAIN, IN COMPARISON TO THE TOP 23 YEARS PAST, UH, SO THAT'S ALL GOOD, BUT I STILL, WE PROVIDE BASIC SERVICES THAT I NEED TO KNOW HOW WE'RE DOING TRASH PICKUP, RIGHT? THAT WAS IMPORTANT TO US TO KNOW, UNDERSTAND WHEN WE, WHEN WE NEGOTIATE WITH WASTE MANAGEMENT.

SO IT'S REALLY HIGH UP HERE.

UM, WHAT ABOUT DRINKING WATER QUALITY? WHAT ABOUT PERMITTING SERVICES? THINGS THAT PROBABLY AREN'T GONNA GET PICKED UP IN THOSE OTHER SURVEYS OR THINGS THAT WE JUST ASKED THEM TO LOOK AT BECAUSE THEY, NOT EVERYONE HAS THE, THE, THE INTERACTION WITH THESE TYPE OF SERVICES, BUT THEY'RE BASIC ONES THAT WE PROVIDE HERE IN THE MIDDLE.

HOW'S THE CITY DOING ON THESE BASIC ISSUES? THIS IS BASICALLY, I THINK ALL OF THE THINGS COMBINED INTO AN AVERAGE THERE.

THEN WE WANTED TO KNOW, OKAY, IN THE LAST SIX MONTHS, HAVE YOU HAD ANY CONTACT WITH CITY EMPLOYEES? AND 71% OF THAT'S JUST OVER 1100 HAD SOME SORT OF INTERACTION WITH THE CITY EMPLOYEE.

AND THIS SPREADSHEET BREAKS IT DOWN BY WHICH DEPARTMENTS HAVE THE MOST.

AND THEN WE WANTED TO KNOW THE SATISFACTION OF THAT INTERACTION.

AND, UM, UH, PLEASE, PLEASE, BY WHAT I SEE HERE, I'LL TELL YOU THE, THE ONES THAT ARE AT THE BOTTOM, ENGINEERING PLANNING, BUILDING PERMIT.

THEY'RE THE ONES THAT HAVE TO TELL PEOPLE YOU DID THIS WRONG.

THEY'RE THE ONES THAT HAVE TO TELL PEOPLE NO, THEY'RE THE ONES THAT HAVE TO GIVE CITATIONS FOR STUFF THAT'S ON PEOPLE'S PERSONAL PROPERTY.

UM, ANYWAY, SO I, I'M REALLY GLAD TO SEE THESE, UH, CUSTOMER SERVICE RESULTS ACROSS, UH, THE CITY AND COMPARE THAT.

UM, THEN WE SAID, OKAY, WE'RE GETTING DONE DOWN TO THE END OF THE SURVEY.

WHAT ELSE DO YOU WANT TO TELL US? RIGHT? WHAT'S ON YOUR MIND? AND THIS IS WHERE YOU GET A LOT OF THAT ANTI-GROWTH.

STOP GROWTH, UH, BUILD MORE ROADS, CLEAN UP THE CONGESTION, IMPROVE THE INTERSECTIONS,

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THOSE TYPE OF THINGS.

UM, YOU CAN SEE THAT BY THOSE CATEGORIES.

AGAIN, WE PUT, PUT THOSE IN YOUR BINDER, UH, BY DISTRICT.

SO HERE'S ONE ABOUT TREES.

ALL RIGHT, THIS IS A NEW MODULE I ASKED, UH, I WANTED TO KNOW.

UH, DIRECTOR WOODS IS ALWAYS SAYING, MAN, EVERYONE WHO COMES AND VISITS HERE IS SO IMPRESSED WITH HOW CLEAN BERNIE IS.

BUT YOU KNOW, WE ALSO HAVE HIGH STANDARDS AND I'M ALWAYS LIKE, HEY, WE GOTTA DO THIS, THIS, AND THIS.

AND I JUST WANTED TO KNOW.

SO I ADDED A LOT OF BEAUTIFICATION, KIND OF CLEANLINESS QUESTIONS, PERSPECTIVES.

I WAS NOT SHOCKED, BUT I WAS, I WAS KIND OF SHOCKED TO SEE HOW WELL EVERYONE REALLY THINKS WE'RE DOING AN AMAZING JOB, A GOOD JOB THERE.

SO THIS DISSATISFACTION IS KIND OF MY GOAL FOR ALL THE OTHER QUADRANTS.

NEXT, UM, ALRIGHT, THIS IS A SLIDE WE'VE ALWAYS ASKED.

IF WE HAD EXTRA REVENUE OR WANTED TO THINK ABOUT DOING SOMETHING NEW OR DIFFERENT, UH, WHAT WOULD YOU HAVE US, UM, PRIORITIZE THOSE INVESTMENTS IN? AND NUMBER ONE HAS ALWAYS BEEN NEW ROADS IN AND OUT OF TOWN.

PLEASE WORK WITH TDOT AND THE COUNTY TO PROVIDE NEW ROADS IN AND OUT OF TOWN.

AND, UM, UH, AND SO 55%, UH, IT'S ACTUALLY 54% FOR THE RESIDENTS.

IT'S 59% FOR THE NON-RESIDENTS, UH, TO VIEW THAT AS THE MOST IMPORTANT AT THAT PERCENTAGE.

SO THIS IS GOOD TOO, TO SEE, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE WERE CONSIDERING EXPANDING THE CEMETERY, THIS SURVEY DATA WAS HELPFUL TO US TO SAY, OKAY, DO WE NEED TO GO BUY ANOTHER CLOTH OR A WHOLE NOTHER CEMETERY, RIGHT? UH, NEW THIS YEAR, I, I SAW THIS IN ANOTHER SURVEY AND I LIKED IT.

AND I WANTED TO UNDERSTAND PEOPLE'S PERSPECTIVES OF US VERSUS ALL THEIR OTHER GOVERNING ENTITIES IN THE COMMUNITY THAT THEY INTERACT WITH OR HAVE SOME SORT OF IMPACT THAT IMPACT THEIR LIVES.

AND PLEASE JUST SEE THAT WE'RE THERE ON TOP.

UM, YOU KNOW, NOT BY MUCH, BUT WHEN THEY'RE ON TOP, UH, THAT DISSATISFACTION VERY POOR IS 0%.

THE POOR IS 2%.

UM, SO, UH, AGAIN, I THINK ANOTHER TESTAMENT TO OUR STANDARDS OF EXCELLENCE ARE OUR COMMITMENT TO INTENTIONALITY BEHIND WHAT WE DO AND, AND REALLY GIVING OUR COMMUNITY WHAT THEY WANT, WHY THEY MOVED HERE, WHY THEY HAVE THEIR BUSINESSES HERE AND SO FORTH.

PROBABLY DOESN'T SURPRISE YOU.

YOU KNOW, THE, A LOT OF OUR RESIDENTS PROBABLY DON'T HAVE A LOT OF INTER INTERACTION WITH THE COUNTY GOVERNMENT.

AND THEN PROBABLY EVEN LESSER INTERACTION WITH STATE GOVERNMENT, FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, UH, THIS IS DIRECT, ALL GOOD INFORMATION FOR DIRECTOR SHADROCK.

UH, HE ALWAYS LIKES TO LOOK AT THIS.

YOU WHAT TYPE OF INFORMATION DO, DO OUR RESIDENTS AND AND OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS WANT TO HEAR ABOUT? THEN WHAT CHANNEL, WHAT MEDIUM DO THEY WANT TO DO? THEY WANT TO SEE THAT IN.

SO HE, HE USES THIS A LOT.

I ALSO WANT TO KNOW IF PEOPLE WITH OUR NEW MY BERNIE NEWS.COM, UH, OFFERING LAST YEAR, PROBABLY MID-YEAR, HAD THEY HEARD ABOUT IT, IF THEY HAD, HOW OFTEN ARE THEY READING IT OR LOOKING AT IT.

AND SO THAT WAS JUST KIND OF AN EXTRA PIECE FOR US.

THIS JUST TELLS YOU OUT OF EVERYONE WHO TOOK THE, UH, SURVEY, WE SENT OUT A BLANKET EMAIL TO PEOPLE THAT WERE SUBSCRIBED TO FOLLOWING US.

THEN WE GAVE YOU GUYS A LINK THAT YOU COULD EMAIL OUT TO PEOPLE.

AND YOU CAN SEE HOW THE PARTICIPATION OF THAT, WE ACTUALLY PUT A LINK ON OUR WEB.

WE JUST WANT TO KNOW HOW ARE PEOPLE INTERACTING IN THIS SURVEY? AND THAT'S HOW THAT WOULD, THE WEBSITE FROM, IF I MAY, WHEN IT SAYS COMMUNICATIONS, OVERWHELMINGLY IT'S ELECTRONIC EMAIL, TEXT, FACEBOOK, INSTAGRAM, TWITTER, ET CETERA, YOUTUBE.

BUT YET, ONLY 23% HAVE EVEN HEARD OF MY BURNING NEWS.

SO THAT'S KIND OF INTERESTING BECAUSE THE OVERWHELMING MAJORITY OF PEOPLE ARE USING ELECTRONIC MEDIA.

I THINK, WHEN DID WE LAUNCH MY BURNING NEWS? IT'S LIKE, MAY, WASN'T IT JUNE? JUNE? SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S ONLY BEEN AROUND FOR SIX MONTHS.

OH, I KNOW.

I'M JUST SAYING THAT THAT'S, WELL THE MORE PEOPLE, MOST PEOPLE ARE USING ELECTRONIC MEDIA.

SO HOPEFULLY THIS NUMBER WILL ABSOLUTELY, WELL, WE GOT A WHOLE NOTHER 1600 PEOPLE.

THEY WEREN'T AWARE OF IT.

NOW THEY'RE AWARE OF IT, RIGHT? ARE WE PAYING TO, UM, GET IT INTO THE SOCIAL MEDIA ALGORITHMS THAT THEY CAN GET IT TO THE PEOPLE THAT NEED TO SEE IT? THAT'S A GOAL FOR THIS YEAR.

SO SAY THAT LOUDER.

THAT'S A GOAL FOR THIS YEAR.

GOOD.

START BEING, AND EVEN LAST YEAR, BOTH DIRECTOR, SHADOW I, THEY DID THAT.

I'M JUST WONDERING IF IT'S NOT GETTING PEOPLE'S ALGORITHMS. YEAH, IT TALKS ABOUT DOING SOME PLACEMENTS AND WHATNOT.

AND I'LL SAY, YOU'LL SEE, YOU'LL PUT STUFF OUT FIVE DIFFERENT CHANNELS AND THE PEOPLE SAY THEY NEVER SEE IT AND THEY SAY, I WANT YOU TO VISIT ME ON THIS CHANNEL.

I WANT IT BY EMAIL.

AND THEY GET THE EMAIL IN AND THEY DELETE IT, I LEAVE.

BUT THAT'S HOW, YOU KNOW.

SO I THINK THAT YOU, IT TAKES A WHILE FOR IT TO GET THE TRACTION AND

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H-O-A-P-M-A COLLABORATION, ENGAGEMENT THE OLD FASHIONED WAY.

LET'S COME AND JUST MEET, MEET YOU WHERE YOU'RE AT AND LET'S TALK TO YOU ABOUT ISSUES.

AND WE'RE HOPEFUL THAT WE CAN SPREAD MORE OF THESE MEDIUMS OUT TO THEM AND THEY CAN ACCESS THIS INFORMATION THEMSELVES.

UM, AND THEN, OKAY, SOME OF YOU HAVE MET RON BEFORE.

HE'S OUR CONSULTANT.

HE HELPS US, UH, DO THESE, UM, UH, IF YOU WANT TO INTER YOU WANT TO TALK WITH HIM ABOUT ANYTHING ABOUT THE SURVEY, I CAN FACILITATE THOSE KIND OF VIRTUAL MEETINGS WITH YOU.

UM, BUT ANYWAY, I'M PLEASED WITH THE SURVEY.

I'M PLEASED, UH, WITH THE TEAM TAKING THIS SERIOUSLY.

IT'S ANOTHER DATA POINT.

I JOKE WITH THEM THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, THERE'S THE PHILOSOPHY OF THE FIVE LOVE LANGUAGES WHERE THERE'S A SIX ONE AND IT'S DATA.

DATA IS MY LOVE LANGUAGE.

AND SO I LOVE BOTH OF THESE SURVEYS.

I LOVE THE TRENDS THAT WE'RE SEEING AND, UM, JUST A LOT OF GOOD THINGS ON THE HORIZON.

I'M VERY HOPEFUL AND OPTIMISTIC ABOUT, ABOUT WHAT'S TO COME WITH THAT.

ANY THOUGHTS OR QUESTIONS, OBSERVATIONS YOU WANNA, I MEAN, ONE COMMENT IS THAT, YOU KNOW, FROM A POLICY, I, I THINK WE'VE GIVEN YOUR STAFF, YOU THE TOOLS TO MAKE THESE RATINGS HIGHER.

SO FOR ME IT WAS GREAT TO SEE AND THEN HEAR FROM THE CONSULTANT, LIKE, Y'ALL ARE DOING REALLY GOOD FOR A FAST, GOOD COMMUNITY.

RIGHT? AND HE KNOWS HE'S OUT THERE DOING ALL THESE COMMUNITIES.

SO FOR ME, THAT WAS GREAT TO HEAR.

'CAUSE AGAIN, WE CAN ALL YOU LIVE IN THE OF FACEBOOK GROUPS, YOU THINK IT'S, YOU KNOW, THE WALLS, EVERYTHING'S BURNING AND IT'S HORRIBLE.

BUT THE TRUTH IS, PEOPLE LOVE BEING HERE AND JUST WANT US TO CONTINUE TO MAKE IT A GREAT COMMUNITY.

ABSOLUTELY.

ALRIGHT, LET ME GO INTO ONE OTHER THING AND THEN IF YOU NEED A BREAK, WE CAN DO THAT JUST 'CAUSE IT DOVETAILS, UH, IN WITH WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

I AGREE.

I COULDN'T SET UP THAT.

YEAH, I THINK THAT'S THE TAKEAWAY FROM, FROM ALL THIS DATA THAT WE'VE RECEIVED THROUGH THE SURVEY IS BERNIE STILL, IT'S NOT WHAT IT WAS IN 1985 OR 1997 WHEN I GOT HERE, BUT IT, IT'S JUST AS GOOD IF NOT BETTER.

AND PEOPLE RECOGNIZE THAT.

AND IT'S BECAUSE OF THE STAFF, IT'S BECAUSE OF THE DIRECTORS.

IT'S BECAUSE OF CITY EMPLOYEES AND STREET WORKERS.

THE FIRE, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY THAT I I ENGAGE WITH ON A DAILY BASIS IN OUR COMMUNITY, UM, THEY'RE DOING AN EXCELLENT JOB.

SO I MEAN IT, AND IT SHOWS IN THE DATA.

WELL, I'LL ALSO ADD IT'S, IT'S 'CAUSE OF ALL THOSE THINGS.

IT'S ALSO 'CAUSE OF THE GOOD GOVERNANCE CULTURE WE HAVE BECAUSE YOU GUYS ARE EMBRACING THE COUNCIL'S EMBRACING A VERY STRATEGIC MINDSET TO UH, TO HAVE EVERYTHING LINKED AND ALIGNED.

HEARING WHAT OUR CUSTOMERS, OUR RESIDENTS WANT.

HOW DO WE ALLOCATE, PRIORITIZE THOSE THINGS THROUGH DIFFERENT INITIATIVES, WHETHER IT'S BUDGET OR BOND ELECTIONS OR PROGRAMS. AND THEN HAVING, UH, ALLOWING US TO EMPOWER AND MOTIVATE THE STAFF TO GET THE MOST ENGAGEMENT OUT OF IT JUST COMES FULL CIRCLE AROUND.

AND I THINK WE'RE REALLY STARTING TO SEE GREAT TRACTION IN THAT REGARD.

AND THAT'S WHY I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THE NEXT, UH, FOUR TO SIX, EIGHT YEARS, WHATEVER.

ANYTHING ELSE?

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AND I EMAILED JOE TO GET YOU PREPARED.

AGAIN, I JUST TALKED ABOUT THE STRATEGIC, UH, SYSTEM.

WE GOT CITIZENS ON THE TOP.

WE WANT TO KNOW WHAT THEY THINK AND THEN WE WANT TO CRAFT A VISION AND A MISSION TO GO AFTER AND BUILD THAT QUALITY OF LIFE, TO BUILD THAT COMMUNITY THAT THEY WANT TO CREATE STRATEGIC PRIORITIES.

WE WORK THROUGH MASTER PLANS AND, AND WE HAVE OUR ROLLING TENURE PLAN AND WE'RE GONNA BE UPDATING THAT, BRING THAT FORWARD FOR YOU.

WE ALL KIND OF DO THAT FEBRUARY AND MARCH IF WE'VE ADDED ANY NEW ELEMENTS.

WE HAVE THE NEW LARGE STRATEGIC PLAN.

SO WE WANT TO AMEND THAT INTO THE ROLLING TENURE MASTER PLAN.

BUT WHAT I REALLY WANT TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT IS THIS.

THE STRATEGY MAP.

THIS HAS BEEN ALMOST TWO YEARS OLD.

I THINK WE UNVEILED IT IN 23 IN SUMMER.

UM, IT'S, I'VE, I'VE UTILIZED THIS TOOL AND IN PRIOR CITIES IT'S VERY EFFECTIVE AND TO HELP COMMUNICATE WHAT ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT STRATEGIC PRIORITIES TO ALL LEVELS OF THE ORGANIZATION TO OUTWARD TO OUR COMMUNITY.

AND YOU SEE HOW WE UTILIZE IT.

YOU SEE IT ON THE, UH, COUNCIL MEETINGS, BUT WHAT YOU MAY NOT SEE, THIS IS AN EXAMPLE.

THIS IS DIRECTOR, UH, MAN'S DEPARTMENT WORK PLAN.

AND I THINK THERE'S EVEN MORE PAGES TO THIS.

THESE ARE ALL THE PROJECTS HIS STAFF HAS.

AND IT, AND HE TELLS, OKAY, WHICH TEAM MEMBER IS, IS RESPONSIBLE FOR IT? WHO DO THEY NEED TO TALK TO TO KEEP INFORMED? WHAT'S THE STATUS? SO MY MONTHLY PROJECT REPORT THAT I GIVE YOU AND I DID LAST ON TUESDAY, REALLY DOESN'T SHOW YOU ALL OF THIS.

IT SHOWS YOU THE HIGH LEVEL STUFF THAT I KNOW YOU'RE INTERESTED IN, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER THINGS THERE.

BUT GUESS WHAT, EACH ONE OF THOSE, WHEN THEY SUBMIT THEIR BUDGETS, THEY ALSO SUBMIT A WORK PLAN FOR THE NEXT YEAR.

AND IT GOES IN ON THAT STRATEGY MAP AND IT LINKS WHAT STRATEGIC OBJECTIVE OF THAT MAP THIS IS TIED TO.

THAT'S THE POWER OF THIS.

THAT GETS BACK TO THE ACCOUNTABILITY OF CREATING AN ENGAGED WORKFORCE.

'CAUSE EVERYONE KNOWS THAT THEIR JOB

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IS IMPORTANT FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS.

AND, AND THIS IS ONE OF THOSE TOOLS.

SO AGAIN, I WANNA ASK YOU THESE THREE QUESTIONS.

UM, DO YOU THINK THE MAP IS, IS EFFECTIVELY REFLECTING YOUR PRIORITIES? IS THERE ANYTHING YOU THINK WE NEED TO AMEND ON THAT MAP THAT MAYBE YOU WONDERED WHY? AND AGAIN, IF YOU LOOK AT THE MAP, AND I'LL TURN BACK TO IT HERE IN A MINUTE.

IT'S WORDED KIND OF HIGH LEVEL.

SO WE CAN HAVE TO COVER A LOT OF THINGS TO PROVIDE THAT FLEXIBILITY.

BUT THERE MIGHT BE SOMETHING YOU WANT US TO LOOK AT.

ARE THERE EMERGING PRIORITIES OR CHALLENGES THAT SHOULD BE INCORPORATED, INCORPORATED IN THAT? THIS IS THE, THE MOST IMPORTANT THING YOU GUYS CAN DO.

AND IF WE NEED TO HAVE OTHER STRATEGIC PLANNING SESSIONS TO REALLY TALK ABOUT IT, WE CAN.

UM, IF YOU HAVE ANY FEE, YOU DON'T HAVE TO TELL ME NOW BECAUSE THIS IS A BIG QUESTION TO ASK, BUT THINK ABOUT IT AND PONDER THIS.

IF YOU WANT TO, IF YOU HAVE FEEDBACK YOU WANT US TO CONSIDER, I CAN BRING UP FORWARD AND WE CAN HAVE A CONVERSATION AND COUNCIL WORKSHOP.

WE NEED TO AMEND THE STRATEGY MAP.

WE'LL DO THAT AND WE GET THE COUNCIL'S BLESSING AND WE'LL ROLL THAT INTO THAT 10 YEAR ROLLING MASTER PLAN WHEN WE TAKE ACTION ON THAT.

UM, COMMENT IS, I MEAN, FROM YOU ALL, OR YOU THEN ALSO LETTING US KNOW IF YOU FEEL LIKE THERE'S A TOPIC WHERE LIKE YOU HAVE IT ON THIS MAP, BUT YOU FEEL LIKE COUNCIL AS A WHOLE OR A MAJORITY IS MAYBE NOT PUSHING YOU TO THAT.

AND IS IT A SPECIFIC ONE THAT YOU THINK YOU NEED TO LOOK AT? YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW.

UM, IF THERE'S ANYTHING OFF THE TOP OF MY MIND AT THE MOMENT, AND I I'LL HAVE THAT CONVERSATION WITH THE STAFF FOR SURE.

I'VE HAD MAPS IN OTHER CITIES THAT HAVE, UM, BEEN TWICE AS MUCH AS THIS.

AND THAT'S TOO MUCH, RIGHT? YOU NEED TO BE ABLE TO FOCUS ON, ON WHAT ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT.

SO WE LOOK FOR FLEXIBILITY.

I WAS, YOU KNOW, THE ONE THING THAT COMES TO MIND IS WHEN WE'RE HAVING THOSE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT HISTORICAL PRESERVATION, WHERE, WHERE DOES THAT FIT? AND, AND YOU KNOW, I THINK WE COULD ROLL THAT UNDER THAT COMMUNITY CHARM FOCUS AREA UP HERE, RIGHT? AND THEN WE CAN SAY, OKAY, THESE ARE OUR PROCESS OBJECTIVES.

THESE ARE OUR FINANCIAL OBJECTIVES, THESE ARE WHAT ARE WHAT WE SHOULD BE STRIVING FOR AND MEETING OUR CUSTOMER'S NEEDS.

THEN OF COURSE, DANNY TALKED ABOUT OUR EMPLOYEE OR CHOICE OBJECTIVES.

IF WE BALANCE EVERYTHING WE DO THROUGH THOSE FOUR PERSPECTIVES, WE'RE PROBABLY GONNA COVER A LOT OF THINGS.

BUT IF THERE'S ANYTHING YOU, YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE, THIS IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE A STRATEGIC, UM, DIRECTION.

AND I THINK THE FOUR CORES FROM AN ELECTED OFFICIAL THAT IS, AND THAT'S THE BASIS FOR WHY WE DO THIS OR THOSE THINGS, YOU KNOW, SAFETY AND SECURITY IS NUMBER ONE.

AND THEN WE'RE ALL GONNA HAVE PROBABLY DIFFERENT MAJORITIES ON THE OTHER ONES.

BUT THAT IS, YOU KNOW, DEFINITELY IN BERNIE FOR IMMEDIATELY.

SO I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU.

I KNOW LIKE EVERY PROJECT IS LINKED TO THE MAP.

DO YOU EVER GO BACK, FOR INSTANCE, CAN YOU LOOK AT, JUST SAY, I WANT TO KNOW EVERY JOB THAT EVERY PROJECT THAT WAS F THREE MM-HMM .

AND SEE HOW MANY F THREE.

SO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT MISSING ANY PART OF THE MAP.

YEAH, YEAH.

WE HAVE THAT ABILITY IN THAT SMART SHEET.

WE CAN GO IN AND QUERY, SORRY, TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE NOT LEAVING ANYTHING.

SO WE KNOW WHICH DEPARTMENTS ARE GENERALLY ALIGNED WITH WHICH OBJECTIVES.

RIGHT? RIGHT.

THERE'S, THERE'S SOME DEPARTMENTS THAT MIGHT TOUCH 'EM ALL.

OF COURSE, EVERY DEPARTMENT'S GONNA TOUCH THE EMPLOYER OF CHOICE STUFF.

EVERY DEPARTMENT SHOULD TOUCH THE FINANCIAL FEES.

MAINTAIN HIGH QUALITY INFRASTRUCTURE WITHOUT BEING STRATEGIC AND RESPONSIBLE, YOU KNOW, AND FISCALLY CONSERVATIVE, YOU KNOW.

UM, AND EVEN THESE PROCESSES, ONE, BUT NOT EVERYONE'S GONNA BE TOUCHING SAFETY AND SECURITY.

UTILITIES WILL HAVE A SAFETY AND SECURITY ASPECT.

HR IS GONNA HAVE A SAFETY AND SECURITY ASPECT TO MAKE SURE OUR EMPLOYEES AND OUR FACILITIES ARE ARE SAFE.

RIGHT? UM, SO I I DO THINK WE'RE GONNA HAVE IT ALL COVERED.

WELL JUST NOT EVERY DEPARTMENT'S GONNA BE HITTING ON EACH ONE OF THEM.

I DUNNO IF THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION.

YEAH, I WOULD, I WAS JUST CURIOUS BECAUSE I NOTICED LIKE GOING FROM LIKE EVERY PROJECT ALIGNING YEAH.

EVERY PROJECT IS JUSTIFIED AND ALIGNS WITH OUR MAP IS A GREAT STRATEGY.

'CAUSE WE DO IT IN SCHOOL TOO.

I WAS JUST CURIOUS TO TELL MY QUESTION WAS MORE, ARE WE HITTING EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THOSE CATEGORIES? WAIT, DO WE EVER TAKE THAT LOOK BACK AND SAY NO.

FOR INSTANCE, F THREE IS MAINTAINING BALANCE AND DIVERSITY ECONOMY.

HOW MANY PROJECTS ARE DOING THAT? AND HAVE WE EVER LOOKED AT THAT? SO MAYBE WE HAVE TWO THAT HIT THERE.

WE'LL DO AN AUDIT, I'LL DO AN AUDIT AND I'LL PRESENT, I'LL, I'LL EMAIL YOU GUYS AND LET YOU KNOW THE BREAKDOWN OF INITIATIVES UNDER EACH OBJECTIVE.

I THINK IN A ROUNDABOUT WAY, EVERY ONE OF THOSE, EVERY PROJECT THAT WE DO FROM THE CITY STANDPOINT, RIGHT, PRETTY MUCH SHOULD HIT EVERY ONE OF THOSE TENANTS.

WHETHER YOU PUT 'EM IN THE, THAT COLUMN OF CATEGORIES OR NOT, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? WE MAY NOT HIGHLIGHT IT EVERY TIME A PROJECT COMES FORWARD COUNCIL, BUT IF ANYTHING THAT WE DO, I MEANS IT SHOULD F1, F TWO, F THREE SHOULD BE ON EVERYTHING THAT WE DO.

YOU KNOW? AND SO I I THINK IN A WAY IT KIND OF RIGHT.

EMPHASIZES THAT AND, AND YOU GET THAT, YOU KNOW, WHETHER WE HIGHLIGHT IT SPECIFICALLY, I THINK EVERYTHING THAT WE DO, I MEAN, WE'RE NOT GONNA SIT THERE AND, AND INVEST IN

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WELL, I'LL TELL YOU, GOING BACK TO COUNCIL MEMBER SCOTT'S COMMENT EARLIER ABOUT THE RULES AND THE PRODUCT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE SOMETHING HERE, B THREE PROVIDING STREAMLINED AND EFFICIENT PROCESSES WITH IT.

WE MIGHT HAVE A DEFICIENCY THERE WHEN WE DO THE AUDIT.

I THINK I WILL DO THE AUDIT, WE'LL REPORT BACK ON THE PERCENTAGES OF WHERE THINGS WILL LIE.

AND THAT MIGHT GIVE US SOME GOOD INSIGHT ON WHERE WE NEED TO AS A LEADERSHIP TEAM FOCUS NEXT YEAR'S WORK PLANS ON.

GOOD POINT.

I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT TOO, IS THAT A LOT OF TIMES SAY JEFF WILL COME FORWARD WITH A STREET PROJECT AND THEY'LL, THEY'LL IDENTIFY THE OBJECT, WHICH IS AN INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECT, BUT THAT'S ALSO QUALITY CUSTOMER SERVICE EXPERIENCE.

RIGHT? BUT HE MAY NOT IDENTIFY THAT ONE.

SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IS BEING A LITTLE BIT MORE IN DEPTH THAN WHEN WE'RE, WHEN WE'RE, UH, LINING THOSE SO THAT YOU SEE, YOU CAN GET A BETTER LOOK AT HITTING ALL THOSE.

THE F THREE IS THE MOST IMPORTANT.

'CAUSE WITHOUT THE REVENUE, EVERYTHING ELSE FALLS APART.

EVERY PROJECT THAT YOU LOOK AT THE COMMUNITY IS ASKED ABOUT HERE IS MONEY, TRANSPORTATION, UH, THE QUALITY OF LIFE ISSUES, WAY THE POOLS AND PARKS AND ALL.

IT'S ALL MONEY.

SO THE COMMUNITY, ONE THING YOU DIDN'T ASK IN THIS SURVEY, AND I KNOW I KIND OF KNOW THE ANSWER ALREADY, VERY FEW PEOPLE ARE GONNA SAY THEY'RE WILLING TO PAY ANYTHING MORE TO GET ALL THE THINGS IN HERE THAT THEY SAY THEY WANT.

AND THEY THINK THAT WE ARE, THAT THE CITY IS WASTING MONEY.

THAT OBVIOUSLY WE COULD CUT EMPLOYEE.

YOU HEAR THIS STUFF ALL THE TIME.

BUT YET THEN YOU ASK THEM, WELL WHO WOULD, WHAT WOULD YOU CUT? WHICH, WHICH, WHICH HOW MANY FIREMEN WOULD YOU GET RID OF? HOW MANY POLICE, HOW MANY CITY STAFF? HOW MANY PEOPLE IN UTILITIES? THE ANSWER IS THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT WITHOUT THAT ECONOMY DRIVER, ALL OF THIS OTHER STUFF IS A STRUGGLE.

IT REALLY IS.

THE ONLY THING I WOULD DISAGREE WITH YOU JUST TO TA IT ON, IS WHEN WE GO TO THEM AND ASK THEM FOR BOND AND SAY, THIS IS WHAT'S NEEDED.

YOU KNOW, THEY STEP UP AND THEY SAID, YES, THEY VOTED FOR THESE THINGS.

SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK THERE ARE, THERE ARE SOME OPPORTUNITIES FOR US TO POINT OUT THE DEFICIENCIES THAT WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE.

WE NEED MORE MONEY FOR THIS X, Y, Z AND I THINK WE CAN HAVE THE SUPPORT OF THE COMMUNITY BEHIND US.

WELL, THE DATA BACK UP, THAT'S, THAT'S A CAPITAL RAISE FROM THE TAXPAYER I'M TALKING ABOUT.

THIS IS A BALANCED ECONOMY.

WE HEAR STUFF ALL THE TIME ABOUT, WHY DON'T YOU HAVE A TRADER JOE, WHY DON'T YOU HAVE A TARGET? UH, WHY DON'T YOU HAVE THIS? WHY DON'T YOU HAVE THAT? WHY DON'T YOU HAVE BETTER RESTAURANTS? WHY CAN'T YOU GET A GERMAN RESTAURANT? WELL, WE LIVE IN A, IN A FREE ECONOMY.

I MEAN, UH, IT'S LIKE, OKAY, YOU WANNA OPEN A GERMAN RESTAURANT? I'M ALL DO IT.

SHE'S GOT A LOT ON SOCIAL MEDIA.

TOO MANY MEXICAN RESTAURANTS.

TOO MANY.

I'M JUST SAYING YOU CAN'T, I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH WE CAN INFLUENCE THAT.

I KNOW THE EDC GETS A BAD RAP IN SOME CASES, BUT THAT'S JUST THE REALITY.

WELL, AND I'LL TELL YOU, WE MAY NOT DO IT WITH THE EDC WILL, WE'LL SUPPORT THEM.

'CAUSE HEY, F THREE MEANS, HEY, WE NEED YOU TO GO DO A DIG DOWN SURVEY ON THE TYPES OF THINGS WE NEED TO LOOK AT ECONOMICALLY.

RIGHT? ANYTHING ELSE? SO HOW ABOUT WE DO THIS? IF YOU HAVE ANY THOUGHTS, SHE CAN GET 'EM TO ME BY, THROUGH THE NEXT MONTH.

WE'LL TRY TO MAYBE BRING THE ROLLING TENURE PLAN IN MARCH FOR YOU.

IF YOU NEED A BATHROOM BREAK OR DO YOU WANT TO, I WANNA TAKE A FIVE MINUTE RECESS.

I'M JUST LOOKING AT THE POLICE CARS GOING BY OUT THERE.

WHAT'S GOING ON? HEARD SOMETHING ON, I'M ON IT.

CHRISTIE'S PRESENTATION.

CHRISTIE LASETTE.

IT'S A, IT'S NOT A ME IT'S NOT A LONG, BUT IT IS MEDIAN DATED TOO.

AND SO IF, WHY DON'T WE JUST TAKE A FIVE MINUTE RECESS.

I AM EXCITED, UH, TO TALK ABOUT OUR PHENOMENAL PARTNER SYSTEM.

WE'RE RESET OFFICIALLY AT SEVEN 4:00 PM TURN AT 7 29.

OFFICIALLY, UH, YOU COME BACK TO THE SESSION AT 7:32 PM AND CHRISTIE.

ALRIGHT, WELL,

[7. DISCUSSION: BALANCING DEMAND & RESPONSIBILITY – PARKS AND RECREATION OVERVIEW]

UM, AND I WANNA THANK, UH, LIZETTE FOR ALL OF OUR WORK THAT SHE TOOK INTO IN WORKING ON THE PRESENTATION, THE NUMBERS AND THE DATA.

AND I'VE GOT HER HERE BECAUSE I'M SURE YOU GUYS ARE GONNA ASK QUESTIONS.

UM, UM, SO AS WE LOOK AT OUR STRATEGY MAP, WE THOUGHT IT WAS IMPORTANT TO SHOW THAT THAT REALLY THIS PRESENTATION, THE INFORMATION THAT WE'RE ABOUT TO, UH, PRESENT HITS SEVERAL DIFFERENT AREAS.

UM, YOU KNOW, SPECIFICALLY SERVING OUR CUSTOMERS OUR FINANCIAL STEWARDSHIP AND ALSO WORKING TO ACHIEVE BEST IN CLASS.

WHAT WE WANT TO DO TONIGHT IS, UM, IS REALLY, WE'VE GOT THESE ITEMS HERE, UM, WHICH WILL ALLOW US TO FACILITATE SOME DISCUSSION.

IT'S REALLY, IT'S REALLY SOME, UH, UH, THOUGHT INFORMATION.

UH, WE HOPE WE'RE GONNA GIVE YOU SOME VALUABLE DATA THAT HELPS US BREAK DOWN, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT PARK OFFERINGS

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THAT WE HAVE IN BURN.

WHAT'S THE DEMAND FOR OUR PARKS FACILITIES? UM, WE'LL GO INTO THIS A LITTLE BIT MORE.

WE HAVE A UNIQUE, UH, BERNIE IS KIND OF IN A UNIQUE POSITION, UH, WITH WHERE WE'RE AT IN THE TEXAS HILL COUNTRY AND HOW MANY PEOPLE WE BE IN BURN.

AND OUR, UH, UNIQUENESS ALONG WITH OUR ZIP CODE AND THE, AND THE AMOUNT OF AREA THAT WE SERVE.

UH, WE WANNA TALK ABOUT THE NEEDS FOR OUR NUMBERS.

UM, WE'LL TALK BRIEFLY ON OUR OPTIONS FOR MANAGING FACILITIES, HOW WE DO THAT NOW, AND HOW THE NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES THAT WE HAVE KIND OF, UH, ACTUALLY LEADS INTO THAT.

AND WE'LL ALSO TALK ABOUT, UM, MOVING FORWARD, BECAUSE WE'VE ALREADY KIND OF, UH, BAILED ON A FEW OF THE THINGS SUCH AS SURVEYS THAT WE WANT TO DO.

UM, AND WE'LL GO INTO SOME, A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL ON THAT.

SO WHAT WE WANNA TALK ABOUT NOW IS OUR POPULATION NUMBERS.

YOU GUYS HAVE SEEN THIS CHART, THIS MAP BEFORE.

AND SO, UM, AS YOU LOOK OVER HERE, UM, THAT'S GONNA BE TO YOUR RIGHT, UH, THE BLUE AREA IS ACTUALLY THE, THE BERNIE CITY LIMITS.

AND YOU'LL NOTICE THAT THAT IS THE SMALLEST AREA ON THE MAP.

UH, THE YELLOW IS ALL OF OUR AREA THAT HAS A 7 8, 0 0 6 ZIP CODE.

UM, WHICH IS NOT ONLY KENDALL COUNTY, BUT ALSO PART OF BEAR COUNTY.

AND THEN THE, THE GREEN IS OUR 7 8 0 1 5 ZIP CODE.

AND THEN, UH, POTENTIALLY THE LARGEST AREA, UH, WE'D HAVE TO MEASURE, BUT IS THE, THE WHITE OUTLINE THAT IS THE BISD SCHOOL LIMITS.

SO WE HAVE A LOT.

SO WHAT WE SAY IS, AS OF TODAY, WE'RE LOOKING AT BERNIE AS HAVING IN THE VICINITY OF 25,000 RESIDENTS.

AND, UH, WE LOOK AT ABOUT OH, A THOUSAND PEOPLE.

WE HAVE ABOUT A THOUSAND PEOPLE, UH, RESIDENTS, UH, GROWTH EACH YEAR.

BUT WHEN WE LOOK AT THE GREATER BURN AREA OF WHO WE ACTUALLY SERVE, IT'S ABOUT 70,000, UM, IN ALL OF THESE AREAS THAT YOU'RE SEEING HERE ON THIS MAP.

SO THAT BRINGS FORTH SOME CHALLENGES, UH, WITH A COMMUNITY THAT IS, THAT HAS 25,000 RESIDENTS.

UH, THERE'S FINANCIAL CHALLENGES, THERE'S DEMAND CHALLENGES AS FAR AS HAVING THE NUMBER OF FACILITIES THAT WE NEED.

AND THEN WE START LOOKING FOR THE FUTURE.

YOU KNOW, AS WE START, AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, THE DIFFERENT CONVERSATIONS, UH, THAT WE'VE HAD, UM, IN REGARD TO, YOU KNOW, HOW WE START BOND CONVERSATIONS, HOW WE LOOK AT DOING OUR BUDGET EACH YEAR, HOW WE LOOK AT , UH, MEETING THE DEMANDS THAT WE HAVE.

AND SO IF YOU LOOK AHEAD TO 2030, THE NEXT FIVE YEARS, UH, WE COULD ESTIMATE THAT THE CITY OF ER, WE WOULD HAVE ABOUT 30,000 RESIDENTS, AND THAT'S PRETTY CONSERVATIVE.

BUT THEN THE GREATER BURN AREA, UH, COULD HAVE AS MANY AS 80,000 RESIDENTS.

UM, STATISTICS SHOW THAT JUST WITHIN KENDALL COUNTY THAT THEY EXPECT IT TO GROW AT LEAST 25% OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.

UH, AND THEN YOU ALSO, UM, YOU ADD IN THE BS BISD GROWTH PROJECTIONS.

AND THIS IS ACTUALLY THEIR INFORMATION THAT THEY SHARED, UM, IN JANUARY OF, OF 24, UH, WITH THEIR, UH, SCHOOL BOARD.

AND THIS IS FROM THEIR STUDY, UH, THAT THEY DID THEN.

AND BEN HAS LET US KNOW THAT THEY'RE ABOUT TO ACTUALLY RELEASE IT.

SO WE'LL HAVE UPDATED INFORMATION.

BUT, UH, FOR THEIR, THEIR 2324 SCHOOL YEAR, THEY HAD 11,000 STUDENTS THAT WERE ENROLLED.

UM, THE CHART ON YOUR RIGHT SHOWS WHAT THEY PREDICT THEIR ENROLLMENT WILL BE WITHIN 10 YEARS.

SO IT'S FROM AS CONSERVATIVE AS, UH, ALMOST 16,500 STUDENTS TO A, UH, HIGH GROWTH ASSUMPTION OF 19,000.

SO IF YOU GO WITH THE HIGH GROWTH ASSUMPTION, WHICH PROBABLY IT'S SOMEWHERE IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT, UH, BY 20 20 33, THEY COULD HAVE GROWN THEIR, UH, STUDENT ENROLLMENT OVER 74%.

SO THAT'S A LOT OF YOUNG PEOPLE.

AND YOU KNOW, AS WE SEE EVEN FROM OUR SURVEY DATA, THIS IS A GREAT PLACE TO RAISE KIDS.

PEOPLE LOVE GOING TO SCHOOL HERE.

THEY LOVE RAISING THEIR CHILDREN HERE.

AND SO WE, THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS THAT WE DO HAVE A, A BIG FOCUS ON YOUTH WITHIN BURNIE.

SO TALKING ABOUT OUR PARKLAND ACREAGE, UM, WE HAVE APPROXIMATELY 431 ACRES OF USABLE PARKLAND.

AND THIS IS MADE UP OF 13 DIFFERENT SPECIFIC PARKS.

BUT THEN ALSO OUR, UH, WONDERFUL TRAIL SYSTEM, THE OLD NUMBER NINE TRAIL.

YOU SEE, YOU SEE THE DIFFERENT ACREAGES THERE AS WELL AS VERDE CITY LAKE.

AND THEN THE, UH, OW CENTER FOR CON CONSERVATIONS.

AND THESE ARE OUR USABLE ACRES THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW.

WE ALSO HAVE, UM, UNDEVELOPED PARKLAND.

SO THIS HAS COME FROM EITHER PARKLAND DEDICATIONS OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS, I WOULD SAY WITHIN THE LAST, UH, FIVE TO SIX YEARS.

AND THEN ALSO OUR RECENT PURCHASE ALONG RIVER ROADS.

WE HAVE AN ADDITIONAL 74 ACRES, WHICH BRINGS US TO A TOTAL PARKLAND ACREAGE OF, OF ABOUT 505 ACRES.

SO WHY IS THAT IMPORTANT?

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SO WHAT WE WANTED TO DO WAS COMPARE BURNING STATISTICS, THE NUMBER OF THE ACREAGE THAT WE HAVE PER PERSON.

UM, HOW MANY PARKS DO WE HAVE PER RESIDENT, UM, AND COMPARE THAT TO THE NATIONAL, UM, THE NRPA, THE NATIONAL RECREATION PARKS ASSOCIATION DATA.

SO WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO IS USE THE, UH, THREE DIFFERENT POPULATIONS.

SO WE'RE AT 25,000 RIGHT NOW.

SO WE'LL LOOK AT, AT CURRENTLY, HOW DO WE COMPARE THE NATIONAL AVERAGES? THEN WE'LL LOOK AT IN FIVE YEARS, WHICH WE ALL KNOW THAT'S GONNA BE BE HERE BEFORE WE KNOW IT.

UM, HOW DO WE COMPARE WITH THE 30,000 RESIDENTS THAT WOULD BE WITHIN THE CITY OF BURN? AND THEN WHAT ABOUT REALLY THE 80,000 RESIDENTS THAT WE SERVE IN THE GREATER, GREATER BURN AREA, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.

EVERYBODY GOOD WITH THAT? AND I'LL JUST ADD, WE'RE, WE'RE NOT RIGHT AT 25,000, BUT WE'RE BETWEEN 23 TO 25.

WE DON'T HAVE THE EXACT NUMBERS.

THE BURN AREA THAT, YOU KNOW, ANYWHERE FROM 70 TO 80 NOW, I'M SURE THERE'LL BE A LOT MORE IN FIVE YEARS FROM NOW.

AND SO WE JUST NEEDED TO CREATE SOME SORT OF BENCHMARKS TO MEASURE AGAINST.

AND SO WHAT'S, WHAT THIS CHART SHOWS IS THAT WITH OUR 13 PARKS, IF YOU LOOK RIGHT NOW WITH OUR, JUST CONSIDERING THE CITY OF BURN, SO JUST THAT BLUE AREA THAT IS ON THE MAP, UH, 25,000 RESIDENTS.

AND EVEN IN FIVE YEARS WHEN WE MOVE UP TO 30,000 RESIDENTS POTENTIALLY, UH, THE NRPA STANDARD IS ABOUT 2,400 RESIDENTS PER PARK.

SO YOU SHOULD HAVE ONE PARK FOR EVERY 24,000 OR 2,400 RESIDENTS.

AND WE'RE DOING GREAT.

UM, SO RIGHT NOW, IF WE'RE ONLY, IF WE'RE ONLY SERVING OUR CITY RESIDENTS, UH, WE WOULD HAVE, UH, BASICALLY, UH, 1900 RESIDENTS WOULD BE SERVED, UH, FREE WITH EACH PARK.

AND EVEN WHEN WE MOVE UP TO 30,000 RESIDENTS, YOU WOULD HAVE 2300 RESIDENTS PER PARK.

STILL WELL WITHIN THE LIMIT.

BUT WHEN YOU MOVE UP TO THE GREATER BURNEY AREA, THE AREA THAT WE SERVE THAT WE KNOW IS PROBABLY 70,000 RIGHT NOW.

AND, AND WE'LL MOVE UP TO AT LEAST 80,000.

UH, WE ARE VERY, UM, UNDERSERVED FOR THE AMOUNT OF, SO WE SHOULD HAVE AGAIN, UH, 24 RESIDENTS PER PART.

AND THAT PUTS US AT 6,200 RESIDENTS PER PARK.

I GET THE POINT OF THIS, BUT YOU'D HAVE TO INCLUDE OTHER, OTHER PARKS IN THE COUNTY, RIGHT, EXACTLY.

ANYTHING THAT THEY WOULD HAVE AS FAR AS LOWER THAT SUM.

BUT ARE THEY, BUT YOU KNOW, THEY NEED TO BE DEVELOPED PARKLAND, A LOT OF THESE.

SO, AND THEN THE SAME THING WITH THE ACRES OF PARKLAND.

IT'S JUST, IT'S JUST LIKE WE ARE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THERE.

UM, WE ARE, WE'RE DOING REALLY GOOD WHEN IT COMES TO JUST SERVING OUR RESIDENTS.

BUT THEN WHEN YOU ADD IN THE NUMBER OF FOLKS IN THE GREENER GRAYER BURNEY AREA, THAT'S WHEN, UH, WE'RE RUNNING A LITTLE SHORT ON PARK PLAN.

SO WE WANNA DO IS FOCUS ON TWO, UM, TWO OF OUR, OUR LARGEST PARKS THAT HAVE, UH, MOST OF OUR AMENITIES.

UH, SO THE FIRST IS GOING TO BE NORTHROP PARK.

AND AS YOU SEE, THERE'S A PICTURE OF ALL THE BALL FIELDS.

AND WHAT'S REALLY COOL WAS I DO BELIEVE THAT OUR OWN STAFF, UM, PUT THOSE BALL FIELDS IN MM-HMM .

UH, MANY YEARS AGO.

SO, UM, WE WANNA FOCUS ON THIS.

SO IN 2024, UH, WE HAD 116,000, UH, VISITORS OVER THE YEAR, UH, TO NORTHROP PARK.

AND JUST AS A COMPARISON, IF WE, IF WE WENT AND DROPPED THE, UM, WE HAD EVERYBODY VISIT IN ONE DAY, IF WE JUST DROP THE POPULATION OF NEW BRAUNFELS, UM, INTO OUR PARK, THAT'S HOW MANY PEOPLE, UH, VISITED OUR PARK THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.

UH, WE'RE GONNA FOCUS ON THE BASEBALL AND SOFTBALL FIELDS.

UH, BUT THIS PARK ALSO HAS, UH, THREE SAND VOLLEYBALL COURTS.

IT'S OUR COVERED BASKETBALL COURT AND AS WELL AS A COVERED PLAYGROUND.

EXCUSE ME.

SO HOW MANY BALL FIELDS DOES BERNIE NEED? WE ALL KNOW THAT, UM, AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT THIS IN A LITTLE WHILE.

WE'VE GOTTEN NATIONAL ATTENTION THIS YEAR, UH, WITH OUR LITTLE LEAGUE BASEBALL, UM, THAT KIND OF PUT BERNIE ON THE MAP.

I HAVE HAD PEOPLE FROM ALL OVER THE COUNTRY, UH, REACH OUT TO ME, SEND ME TEXTS, TELL ME THERE, WATCHED OUR, WATCHED OUR, OUR YOUNG MEN.

UM, SO THERE'S A BIG FOCUS ON, UM, WE KNOW THAT THAT'S GOING TO NOT ONLY, UH, RAISE THE INTEREST IN BASEBALL, BUT ALSO PROBABLY SOFTBALL AND, AND, UH, MANY OF THE, OF THE, UH, YOUTH SPORTS THAT WE HAVE THE NRPA STANDARD.

UH, FOR RIGHT NOW, FOR WHAT WE, FOR TODAY, FOR, FOR, UH, 25,000 RESIDENTS, WE SHOULD HAVE SIX BALL FIELDS.

WHAT WE HAVE TODAY IS 11 FIELDS.

SO WE'RE DOING PRETTY WELL, UH, WITH 30,000 RESIDENTS.

IF WE WERE JUST MEETING THE NEEDS OF OUR OWN CITY RESIDENTS, UH, WE WOULD NEED SEVEN FIELDS.

AND WE HAVE 11.

NOW, WHAT WE DO TOO HERE IN BERNIE IS, LIKE WE TALKED ABOUT, WE REALLY APPEAL TO THE YOUTH SPORT, UM, ARENA.

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UM, WE HAVE SOME, SOME VERY EFFECTIVE PARTNERS WHO RUN, WHO RUN LITTLE LEAGUES, BUT THEN WE ALSO HAVE SOME ADULT AND, UH, LISETTE, BREAK THAT OUT FOR ME.

WE HAVE HOW MANY, HOW MANY OF OUR 11 ARE FOR YOUTH AND HOW MANY ARE FOR ADULTS? YES, MA'AM.

SO WE HAVE THREE ADULT FIELDS AND EIGHT FIELDS, RIGHT? SO YOU CAN SEE THAT'S WHAT THE BREAKDOWN OF THAT IS WHEN YOU MOVE UP TO SERVING THE GREATER BURNEY AREA.

UH, SO WE HAVE 11 FIELDS, AND, UH, WHEN YOU'RE UP TO 80,000 RESIDENTS, THE STANDARD WOULD BE 19 FIELDS AVAILABLE, AND THEN THAT COULD BE BROKEN UP BETWEEN YOUR YOUTH AND YOUR ADULT.

UH, WE ALSO THOUGHT IT WAS IMPORTANT TO TALK ABOUT, UM, SPECIFICALLY WHEN YOU'RE DOING BALL FIELDS, THERE'S SO MUCH WORK, UH, TO KEEP THOSE FIELDS GOING TO NOT ONLY MAINTAIN, TO GET THEM READY FOR THE SEASON TO START, BUT MAINTAIN THEM THROUGHOUT THE SEASON.

SO WE HAVE, UH, SEVEN FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES WHO, UH, TO, WHO WORK ON THESE FIELDS.

AND THEY, UH, DEDICATED 5,385 HOURS, UH, THIS PAST YEAR TO WORKING ON THOSE BALL FIELDS AND EVERYTHING OUT AT NORTHROP.

UM, AND SO NRPA DOES RECOMMEND, UH, FOR A PARK THIS SIZE WITH THIS KIND OF FIELDS, UH, THAT WE WOULD HAVE 11 FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES.

SO WE'RE JUST A LITTLE BIT, WE'RE A LITTLE BIT SHORT ON THAT ONE.

SO THIS SLIDE IS A, I THINK, A REALLY GOOD REPRESENTATION OF THE NUMBERS OF, UH, RESIDENTS AND NON-RESIDENTS WHO ACTUALLY UTILIZE OUR BASEBALL AND SOFTBALL FIELDS OUT AT NORTHROP.

SO WE'VE GOT ABOUT 28%, UH, OF THE ALMOST 1600, UH, YOUNG PEOPLE WHO ARE INVOLVED IN THE LEAGUES.

UM, 28% OF THOSE ARE CITY RESIDENTS AND 72% ARE, UH, FROM THE GREATER BERNIE, BERNIE AREA.

SO THEY'RE NOT CITY RESIDENTS.

YOU CAN SEE WE'RE ALREADY WITH DEALING WITH THE BASEBALL AND SOFTBALL.

WE'RE ALREADY, UH, SERVING THE NEEDS OF THE GREATER BURN AREA RATHER THAN JUST OUR, UH, CITY RESIDENTS.

SO ANOTHER, ANOTHER ITEM THAT'S OUT AT, UH, NORTHROP IS THE BASKETBALL COURT.

AND SO WE DO HAVE ONE COVERED BASKETBALL COURT.

WE MIGHT BE A LITTLE LOW ON THE, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU GOTTA BE, YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO DO ANY, YOU KNOW, BIG RAINBOW SHOTS BECAUSE YOU'RE GONNA HIT THE TOP.

UM, BUT, UH, WHAT'S REALLY COOL ABOUT THIS IS WE'LL GET TO TALK ABOUT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE, WE KNOW IS IN THE WORKS, UH, WITH OUR UPCOMING PARK PROJECT.

SO THAT'S GONNA MEET A NEED.

UM, AND THE COOL THING ABOUT BASKETBALL TOO IS THAT THIS IS A SPORT THAT YOU CAN PLAY, THAT YOU DO PICKUP GAMES.

YOU KNOW, YOU CAN JUST HAVE LOTS OF PEOPLE COME AND JUST, YOU, YOU DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO HAVE AN ORGANIZED, UH, LEAGUE FOR BASKETBALL TO WORK BECAUSE, UM, AND IT'S ALSO SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE PAY THROUGH PLAY THROUGHOUT THEIR AGE, THROUGHOUT THEIR, THEIR WHOLE LIFE.

UH, MY HUSBAND'S A BIG BASKETBALL PLAYER, AND SO WHEREVER WE GO, HE GOES AND FINDS A COURT, EVEN GO ON VACATION OR WHATEVER.

AND, UH, SO EVEN THE OGS, THE OLD GUYS CAN STILL, UH, PLAY THE BASKETBALL.

UM, YOU MAY NOT BE ABLE TO GUARD ANYONE, BUT YOU CAN STILL PLAY.

SO HOW MANY COURTS ARE IMAGINING AND THE NEW PARK TWO MM-HMM.

AND WE'RE COVERED REGULATIONS, THAT'S MY SHOT.

DO.

SO THEY RECOMMEND, UH, NRPA RECOMMENDS THAT WE WOULD HAVE THREE COURTS.

RIGHT NOW WE HAVE ONE, UH, WHEN WE, IN THE NEXT, WITHIN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS, THEY WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE WOULD HAVE FOUR IF WE WERE JUST, UH, SERVING OUR OWN CITY RESIDENTS.

WE WILL HAVE THREE, UM, HOPEFULLY BY 2030.

AND, UH, IF WE WERE ACTUALLY SERVING OUR 80,000 RESIDENTS, UH, WITHIN THE GREATER BURNIE AREA, THEY WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE WOULD HAVE 10 KIDS.

BERNIE CITY PARK IS OUR OTHER LARGE PARK THAT WE WANT TO HIGHLIGHT.

UM, IN 2024, WE HAD, UH, 237,000 VISITORS, UH, TO THAT PARK.

SO, UM, RELATING THAT TO DROPPING A BUNCH OF FOLKS IN.

UM, SO IF WE PICK A CITY IN TEXAS, IT WOULD BE, WE COULD BRING CORPUS CHRISTI AND, UH, DROP THEIR WHOLE POPULATION IN.

WE GO IN OTHER PLACES IN THE, IN THE UNITED STATES, DENVER OR NASHVILLE.

THE POPULATION OF THOSE PLACES, UH, VISITED OUR PARK THIS LAST YEAR.

SO I THINK THAT'S PRETTY COOL.

THAT'S THE KIND OF TRACTION IN THE, THE NUMBER OF FOLKS THAT GO THROUGH THERE.

THIS PARK IS, IS PRETTY SPECIAL.

IT JUST ACTUALLY JUST WON AN AWARD.

WAS THAT, WHAT WAS THE AWARD? LONE STAR LEGACY AWARD? IT HAS TO BE A PARK HAS TO BE AROUND FOR 50 YEARS.

AND WE WERE ONE OF EIGHT, I BELIEVE, PARKS IN TEXAS THAT RECEIVED THAT AWARD.

SO THE AMENITIES THAT ARE AT THIS PARK ARE, ARE LISTED ON THIS SLIDE.

BUT THEN WE ALSO, THERE, THERE ARE OTHER THINGS.

WE'VE GOT THE AGRICULTURE MUSEUM, WE'VE GOT THE CENTER FOR CONSERVATION.

UM, A LOT OF A DA ACCESSIBLE TRAILS.

THERE'S

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A, A SMALL COVERED PLAYGROUND THAT'S ACTUALLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION RIGHT NOW AND BEING IMPROVED.

UH, THIS IS ALSO WHERE WE HAVE OUR PUBLIC POOL.

SO THERE'S, THERE ARE A LOT OF, UH, AMENITIES AT THE CITY PARK.

SO WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT, UM, THE, UH, SOCCER FIELDS AND AS WELL AS THE TENNIS AND PICKLEBALL COURTS.

SOMETHING THAT'S KIND OF INTERESTING IS THAT EVEN THOUGH OUR, UH, BASEBALL AND SOFTBALL, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE THE NATIONAL TOURNAMENTS THAT BRING, UM, SOME RECOGNITION TO THOSE SPORTS SOCCER, WE ACTUALLY HAVE MORE PARTICIPANTS IN SOCCER, UH, ON OUR, ON OUR FIELDS AT CITY PARK THAN WE DO FOR THE BASEBALL.

SO THIS IS TELLING US HOW MANY SOCCER FIELDS DO WE NEED RIGHT NOW? SO THE NRPA STANDARD, UH, WOULD BE FOR OUR 25, UH, THOUSAND RESIDENTS THAT WE HAVE, WE WOULD NEED FIVE FIELDS.

AND WE HAVE FIVE FIELDS.

UM, HOW ARE THOSE BROKEN DOWN ETTE RIGHT NOW? UH, TWO YOUTH FIELDS AND THREE ADULT FIELDS.

SO TWO AND THREE.

AND THEN IF WE WERE JUST SERVING 30,000 RESIDENTS, UH, WITHIN FIVE YEARS, WE WOULD NEED SIX FIELDS RATHER THAN FIVE.

UH, BUT WE KNOW THAT WE ARE ACTUALLY SERVING A MUCH LARGER AREA, SO WE HAD ENOUGH FIELDS TO SERVE, UH, THE GREATER BURNEY AREA IN 2030.

WE WOULD NEED 16 FIELDS, UH, BROKEN UP BETWEEN YOUTH AND ADULTS, UH, FOR, UH, FOR CITY PARK HERE.

UM, WE ACTUALLY HAVE, UH, FORGIVE MY, UH, ERROR ON THAT ONE.

UM, WE HAVE EIGHT FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES THAT SPENT 3,327 HOURS, UH, WORKING ON THAT PARK.

AND THAT'S GONNA BE ALL THE AMENITIES THAT ARE IN THE PARK.

AND, UH, UH, I, WHAT IS IT? WELL, I WAS JUST GONNA SAY, JUST IN CASE YOU'RE CURIOUS ABOUT THE HOUR HOURLY DIFFERENCE, UM, EVEN THOUGH SOCCER HAS MORE ATTENDEES, IT'S BECAUSE THE BERNIE SOCCER, BOTH AFFILIATES, UH, HELP US MAINTAIN THOSE SOCCER FIELDS AND, AND MARK THE FIELDS, AND THAT'S PART OF THE AGREEMENT.

SO THEY'RE GREAT PARTNERS.

YEAH, AND THAT'S HUGE.

AND SO THE NRPA RECOMMENDS THAT WE WOULD HAVE NINE FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES.

SO, UH, WE'RE CLOSE ON THIS ONE.

BUT LIKE LIZETTE SAID, THE, THE ASSISTANCE THAT WE GET FROM OUR PARTNERS REALLY DOES HELP US BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN THIS.

UM, JUST LOOKING AGAIN, LIKE, LIKE I MENTIONED, UH, WE HAD, UH, 20, OVER 2,600 YOUNG PEOPLE WHO ARE, UH, PART OF OUR YOUTH SOCCER AFFILIATE PROGRAM.

UH, 36% OF THOSE ARE CITY OF VERNE RESIDENTS AND 64% ARE NON-RESIDENTS THAT COME IN, UM, AND SIGN UP.

UH, AND THE DIFFERENCE, YOU KNOW, WE WILL, WE'RE GOING TO TALK DURING THE MOVING FORWARD ABOUT HOW WE WANT TO LOOK AT MAYBE OUR B STRUCTURE, BUT IF YOU'RE JUST WONDERING WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IS.

SO BASICALLY WHAT WE DO IS, UM, AND THIS IS PER OUR FEE SCHEDULE, UM, IF YOU'RE A RESIDENT, YOU PAY $10 TO BE PART OF A LEAVE.

AND IF YOU ARE A NON-RESIDENT, YOU PAY $50, UH, PER PERSON.

SO YOU CAN SEE THERE'S A SPREAD OF ABOUT, AND THAT'S THE CITY FEE.

THERE'S USUALLY AN ASSOCIATION FEE ON TOP OF THAT.

COURTS AND UH, WE WOULD BE SHORT FIVE TENNIS COURTS.

AND THAT IS BY ONE.

SO THE TENNIS CENTER, WE ALSO HAVE OUR, UH, TENNIS CENTER AT CITY PARK.

UH, RIGHT NOW WE HAVE THAT IS MANAGED BY A, A THIRD PARTY THAT WE HAVE A CONTRACT WITH ALSO.

AND WE HAVE 933 MEMBERSHIPS AT THE TENNIS CENTER.

AND IF WE'RE WANTING TO BREAK THOSE DOWN, UH, WE HAVE ABOUT 252.

SO ABOUT 27% ARE RESIDENTS, ABOUT 59% ARE NON-RESIDENTS.

AND THE 14% THAT ARE UNKNOWN, IT'S JUST FOLKS WHO DIDN'T GIVE US THEIR ADDRESS.

AND UH, A LOT OF THOSE ARE, ARE FOLKS WHO PLAY PICKLEBALL, UM, TENNIS VERSUS PICKLEBALL PLAYERS.

WE DO HAVE ABOUT 74% OF OUR MEMBERSHIPS AT THE TENNIS CENTER, UM, ARE TENNIS PLAYERS AND ABOUT 26%, UM, ARE EITHER TENNIS AND PICKLEBALL OR JUST PICKLEBALL BY BALL BY ITSELF ON THIS ONE.

YOU GUYS, WE ARE DOING PRETTY WELL.

UM, WE ACTUALLY HAVE AN, OR HAVE AN EXCESS OF COURTS YOU MIGHT SAY, UH, BASED ON OUR POPULATION AND ACCORDING TO THE NATIONAL STANDARD, UH, TODAY, UH, WITH 25,000 RESIDENTS, UM, WE HAVE, UH, FOUR TENNIS COURT.

UM, THE STANDARD IS FOUR TENNIS COURTS AND WE WOULD NEED THREE PICKLEBALL COURTS.

AND WE ACTUALLY HAVE, UH, SIX TENNIS COURTS.

AND WE'RE ABOUT TO, WHEN WE, WHEN THE WEATHER COOPERATES AND WE'RE ACTUALLY ABLE TO GET OUT AND DO THE STRIPING, UH, WE'LL HAVE EIGHT PICKLEBALL COURTS THAT WILL BE STRIPED SPECIFICALLY FOR THAT 30,000 RESIDENTS.

UH, IT JUST MOVES UP TO FIVE TENNIS COURTS AND FOUR PICKLEBALL.

SO YOU SEE THAT WE WOULD STILL HAVE, WE WOULD PLAN TO, UH, SWITCH OUR TENNIS COURTS PROBABLY BACK TO, UH, TENNIS, UH, WHEN WE HAVE THE NEW PARK, UH, NORTH SIDE PARK, UH, WHICH WOULD PROVIDE EIGHT TENNIS COURTS AND 12 PICKLEBALL COURTS.

AND EVEN WHEN WE MOVE UP, WHEN WE'RE SERVING OUR, UH, GREATER BURN AREA, WE'RE STILL NOT DOING BAD.

WE HAVE MORE THAN ENOUGH PICKLEBALL

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I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THAT.

I'VE SEEN OTHER CITIES MODELS FOR, UM, BECAUSE I GUESS WE'RE NOT THE ONLY CITY THAT HAS THE PICKLEBALL VERSUS TENNIS PLAYER DEBATE MM-HMM .

UM, AND HOW MANY COURTS WE SHOULD HAVE DEDICATED TO EACH.

I'VE SEEN OTHER CITIES HAVE MULTIPURPOSE COURTS THAT ARE STRIPED FOR PICKLEBALL AND TENNIS.

MM-HMM .

IS THAT POSSIBLE? IS IT FEASIBLE? AND WOULD IT SOLVE THE ISSUE AND SAVE MONEY? WHAT HAVING TO DON'T MEAN BACK AND FORTH TO ADDING DEDICATED COURTS FOR DIFFERENT THINGS.

I THINK THAT THAT QUESTION, AND I'LL LET ALYSSA ANSWER HERE IN A SECOND, BUT I THINK ONE THING WOULD BE, IT JUST DEPENDS ON WHAT YOUR USAGE OF YOUR, OF YOUR COURT IS.

SO IF YOU'RE WANTING TO HAVE TOURNAMENTS AND THAT KIND OF THING, NO, THAT CAN'T BE STRIPED, UH, FOR BOTH COURTS.

IT HAS TO BE.

UH, AND THAT WOULD PROBABLY APPLY FOR A PICKLEBALL ALSO.

SO YOU WOULD JUST HAVE TO HAVE, UH, YOU KNOW, ONE SET OF STRIPES.

NOW IF YOU'RE JUST DOING IT FOR RECREATION, YOU ABSOLUTELY COULD DO THAT.

AND I'LL SAY THOUGH, AS SOMEONE WHO PLAYS BOTH, IT IS ANNOYING.

IT IS, IT'S HARD TO KNOW LIKE WHERE YOU'RE LIKE IT IS.

ESPECIALLY IF THEY'RE THE SAME COLOR.

SO THAT'S A LOT OF TIMES WHY YOU LIKE, YOU'LL GHOST ONE, YOU KNOW, SO THE REASON IS THAT YOU'RE NOT SEEING THE SAME COLOR.

UM, IT'S REALLY HARD.

UH, LISETTE, ANYTHING ELSE YOU'D LIKE TO ADD? WHICH IS WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE RIGHT NOW.

UM, UNTIL WE RESURFACE, WHEN THE WEATHER STARTS TO WARM UP, AN ADDITIONAL BACK TO, I THINK CHRIS MIGHT HAVE SAID IT, EVEN WHEN IT JUST COMES TO THE TOURNAMENTS, EVEN WITH OUR, EVEN IF WE'RE FOLLOWING OUR NATIONAL STANDARD AND WE'RE DOING WELL OFFICIALLY, WE CAN'T REALLY HAVE A FULL TOURNAMENT TENNIS TOURNAMENT BECAUSE WE NEED MORE, MORE COURTS TO QUALIFY FOR THOSE KIND OF TOURNAMENTS.

AND I'VE SEEN A LOT OF COMMUNITY, UM, INPUT IN THE SURVEYS AND I'VE SEEN QUITE A FEW COMMENTS ABOUT HOW, UM, COURTS SHOULD BE FREE FOR TAX PAYING RESIDENTS, UH, FOSTERS, YOU KNOW, UM, GOOD HEALTH THAT PEOPLE WITH LOWER INCOME STATURE CAN'T AFFORD IT, THAT A FAMILY OF FOUR HAD TO PAY $20 OR CERTAIN AMOUNT OF MONEY FOR 20 MINUTES APPLICABLE PLAY TIME.

BUT THE, I CAN SEE THAT THE, UM, THE CONUNDRUM WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, DO WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO CHECK, UM, IDS AT THE DOOR OF IF THEY'RE IN THE CITY LIMITS, NOT IN CITY LIMITS, YOU KNOW, PENNY TAXES VERSUS, WHAT WOULD YOU SAY? LIKE 35% OF PEOPLE ARE COMING FROM OUTSIDE CITY.

SO WE CURRENTLY CAN KEEP TRACK OF WHO'S RESIDENT AND NON-RESIDENT IF THEY'RE MEMBERS AND EVEN IF THEY'RE WALK ON BASIS.

UM, AND YOU SAID SOMETHING READY BEFORE THAT, UM, YOU KEEP TRACK OF IT.

THE, THE PERCENTAGE IS MUCH HIGHER.

60%.

IT'S, IT'S LIKE PICKLEBALL IS LIKE 80% ALMOST OUT OF THE CITY.

YES SIR.

AND TENNIS IS LIKE 70% OUTTA THE CITY.

AND WE ARE ALSO WILL BE WITH, UH, THE TENNIS MANAGER TO OFFER OPEN PLAY.

SO THERE WILL BE DEDICATED TIME DURING THE DAY WHERE YOU COULD JUST WALK IN.

WELL, YOU, I JUST BE HONEST, YOU CAN GO ON ANY SUNDAY AND THERE'S NO MONEY, NO ONE THERE.

WELL, THE OTHER, THE OTHER THING YOU BROUGHT, SINCE YOU BROUGHT UP THE, THE TAXATION ISSUE, WHICH I'VE HEARD IS THERE SEEMS TO BE A DISCONNECT WHEN YOU PAY PROPERTY TAX.

I'M ABOUT SALES TAX.

WHEN YOU PAY PROPERTY TAX TO MAINTAIN A FACILITY, THAT'S A STRUCTURE, THAT'S A, THAT'S A, TO HAVE THE FACILITY THAT'S NOT MAINTENANCE AND OPERATION.

SO WHEN PEOPLE SAY, WELL, I'M PAYING TAXES, I SHOULDN'T HAVE TO PAY A FEE 'CAUSE I LIVE IN THE CITY OF BERNIE, I DON'T, I DON'T BUY THAT BECAUSE THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE.

YES, WE ALL PAY TAXES.

I DON'T PLAY PICKLE BALL, BUT I PAY TAXES IN THOSE NEW COURTS.

I DON'T PLAY TENNIS, I DON'T PAY TAXES.

BUT IF I WANT TO USE THE FACILITY, THEN I NEED TO PAY FOR MAINTENANCE AND OPERATION.

UNLESS YOU'RE GONNA CHANGE THE TAX STRUCTURE, I'D RATHER NOT PAY FOR THAT.

ALSO, I'M PAYING TO PUT 'EM IN THERE.

SO, I MEAN, I DON'T THINK THIS BUSINESS ABOUT IT SHOULD BE FREE.

I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S A NON ARGUMENT.

I'VE HEARD THAT.

AND I THINK IT'S NONSENSE.

'CAUSE THEY DON'T, THEY THEY, THEY'RE NOT DIFFERENTIATING BETWEEN THE COST TO PUT INFRASTRUCTURE AND TAXPAYERS ARE GLOBALLY PAYING FOR, IT'S NO DIFFERENT THAN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT SAYING, WELL, I DON'T HAVE KIDS IN SCHOOL.

WHY AM I PAYING TAXES TO HAVE A SCHOOL? RIGHT.

THE SAME EXACT THING.

SO I MEAN, BASICALLY YOU NEED TO MAINTAIN IT AND THE PEOPLE THAT USE IT SHOULD PAY SOMETHING FOR THE OPERATION OF MAINTENANCE .

AND ULTIMATELY THAT'S A, A PHILOSOPHY.

THERE'S THINGS THAT WE HAVE IN OUR PARK SYSTEM, LIKE PLAYGROUNDS THAT ARE FREE TO EVERYBODY.

IF YOU HAD THAT FREE FOR RESIDENTS AND ALL THE TAXPAYERS PAID FOR WHAT 3% OF THE POPULATION IS USED FOR, YOU'D HAVE UPROAR.

MM-HMM .

THERE'S THINGS THAT WE IDENTIFY, LIKE THE SWIMMING POOL THAT YOU PAY A FEE TO GET INTO, UM, BASEBALL FIELDS, THINGS THAT YOU NEED TO HAVE RESERVATION KIND OF SYSTEMS FOR.

UM, BUT YEAH, YOU COULD COME IN AND SAY, EVERYTHING'S FREE NOW.

YOU'VE JUST GOTTA SHIFT THAT REVENUE FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE.

UH, THERE'S MUNICIPAL GOLF COURSES OUT THERE.

I'VE RUN A MUNICIPAL GOLF COURSE BEFORE.

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SO YOU TYPICALLY CHARGE FOR THAT.

SO EVERY, EVERY FACILITY AND EVERY, UH, EVENT IS DIFFERENT.

UH, THAT PHILOSOPHY JUST DEPENDS ON WHAT, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU GUYS SAID AS A POLICY AND WHAT THAT FACILITY IS.

AND SO THOSE ARE DISCUSSIONS WE CAN HAVE.

YOU JUST HAVE TO MAKE UP THAT REVENUE SOMEWHERE ELSE, IF SENSE.

MAKES SENSE.

I JUST WANTED TO, UM, I JUST WANTED TO, UH, A ADDRESS SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WERE ASKED.

AND, AND TO CLARIFY, EVEN IF YOU DO A WALK ON BASIS, IF YOU'RE A NON-RESIDENT, IT'S $10 FOR AN HOUR AND A HALF.

AND IF YOU'RE A RESIDENT, IT'S $5.

AND THAT'S IF YOU DON'T HAVE A MEMBERSHIP.

YOU KNOW, DANNY BRINGS UP A GOOD POINT THAT A LOT OF THIS STUFF IS UP FOR NEGOTIATION ON WHAT DO WE WANT, WHAT DO YOU GUYS ENVISION FOR A PARKS AND REC SYSTEM WE'RE TRYING TO CLAW BACK FOR AND GET MORE A PARK LAND FROM ALL THE GROWTH THAT WE DIDN'T REALLY CAPTURE FROM PARK DEDICATION.

THAT'S A NEW ORDINANCE THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE, RIGHT? AND SO WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE UP FOR SOME OF THAT LOST TIME.

BUT, UM, EVEN THESE NRPA STANDARDS, THESE ARE STANDARDS AND GUIDELINES.

THEY'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, SOME COMMUNITIES MAY SAY WE WANT TO BE THE MECCA OF BASKETBALL COURTS OR PICKLEBALL OR WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, WE MIGHT WANNA FOCUS ON BASEBALL.

SOME COMMUNITIES DO THAT.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING TOO THAT WE'LL NEED TO HONE IN ON.

WHEN WE DO A PARK MASTER PLAN UPDATE, DO A BIT, A DEEPER DIVE ON PA PARK PATRON SURVEY DATA TO SEE WHAT, WHAT PEOPLE WANT AND WHERE, AND TO GO OFF OF WHAT BEN JUST SAID, SPORTS HAVE, THEY'RE TRENDS.

JUST LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE.

IN SOME YEARS IT'S GONNA BE BASKETBALL AND SOME YEARS IT'S GONNA BE PICKLEBALL AND SOME YEARS IT'S GONNA BE BASEBALL, JUST LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE.

HIGH AND LOWS.

WELL, AND, AND LIKE WE TALKED ABOUT WHEN I TALKED ABOUT WHEN I STARTED, YOU KNOW, THIS IS JUST INFORMATION FOR US TO ACTUALLY START THESE CONVERSATIONS AND GET US THINKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT QUESTIONS DO WE HAVE? WHAT DO WE WANT TO THINK ABOUT? WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT MOVING FORWARD.

SO THIS IS ALL GOOD STUFF.

AND WE ALSO KNOW THAT WE HAVE, UH, SOME UNMET RECREATIONAL NEEDS.

SO WE, WE HEARD ABOUT THESE IN OUR SURVEY IN 22.

AND, UM, MANY OF THESE, UM, ARE THE REASON THAT WE, THAT WE INCORPORATED THOSE INTO, UM, OUR NEW NORTH SIDE PARK.

UH, WE HEARD WHAT PEOPLE SAID.

UM, BUT HERE'S SOME OTHERS THAT WE, THAT WE CONTINUALLY, WE KNOW, UH, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE TALK TO YOU ALL ABOUT THEM.

THEY TALK TO, UH, LIZETTE AND HER TEAM, THEY COME TO, THEY TALK TO US AT CITY, AT, UH, THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE, UH, LACROSSE, FLAG FOOTBALL.

UM, AND THESE ARE FOR ADULT AND YOUTH PROGRAMS. AND JUST HAVING THE, THE, UM, ACCESS TO, UH, MULTIPURPOSE FIELDS.

THAT'S WHAT WE DON'T HAVE.

IT'S JUST ENOUGH WHERE DIFFERENT SPORTS OUTSIDE SOCCER, OUTSIDE BASEBALL AND SOFTBALL CAN GO AND HAVE FACILITIES, UM, ADULT PROGRAMS. WE HEAR A LOT.

AND WE KNOW THAT WE, WE HAVE A BIG FOCUS IN BERNIE ON YOUTH, AND THAT'S OKAY.

YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT, UH, WE DECIDED TO DO NOW.

BUT, YOU KNOW, WE DO KNOW THAT THERE ARE A NEED FOR, FOR ADDITIONAL ADULT PROGRAMS, A DOG PARK.

THAT WAS ONE THAT WAS IN THE, UH, THIS, THIS LAST SURVEY, UH, TALKING ABOUT SEVERAL PEOPLE MENTIONED DOG PARKS.

AND THEN ALSO JUST LIKE THE, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE SEEN THE, UH, UH, POPULARITY OF EXERCISE STATIONS, CROSSFIT TYPE, UM, EQUIPMENT.

AND THAT'S ALSO SOMETHING THAT, THAT COULD BE CONSIDERED AN UNMET RECREATION NEED.

AND THIS IS BASICALLY LIKE FROM THE BIG LIST THAT THEY DO, UH, FOR THE PARKS ASSOCIATION.

AND I DID NOT, UM, ADDRESS GOLF.

SO, UM, I'M QUITE HAPPY ABOUT US.

THAT'S, THAT'S NOT REALLY A ONE.

WE DON'T HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE GOLF COURSE.

SO DANNY GETS THAT WHEN THE FIRST INITIAL DRAWING OF CITY PARK INCLUDED A GOLF RANGE RANGE, OF COURSE, DOESN'T, DOESN'T THE CENTER HAVE A PUTTING GREEN THING? ? I'VE BEEN THERE.

I'VE BEEN THERE.

LITTLE CHICKEN PAD.

ALRIGHT, Y'ALL.

SO I TRIED TO MAKE THIS PICTURE AS BIG AS I POSSIBLY COULD.

SO THIS IS OUR CURRENT LATEST AND GREATEST.

UH, WE JUST HAD OUR, OUR MEETING THIS MORNING WITH THE DESIGN TEAM, UH, FOR NORTHSIDE PARK.

AND WE, WE'VE TALKED TO YOU ALL ABOUT THE FACT THAT WE NEED TO PHASE THIS PROJECT, UH, JUST DUE TO THE, UH, INFLATIONARY COSTS OF EVERYTHING.

SO, UH, THIS ACTUALLY SHOWS, THIS IS JUST A BASIC SITE PLAN.

THIS IS NOT THE PRETTY COLORFUL, UH, RENDERINGS.

UH, BUT IT DOES SHOW THAT IN OUR FIRST PHASE, UH, WE WOULD HAVE TWO MULTIPURPOSE FIELDS HERE.

THIS WOULD BE OUR TWO COVERED, UH, REGULATION, FULL-SIZE BASKETBALL COURTS.

THESE ARE OUR 12 PICKLEBALL COURTS.

ARE THEY COVERED? I CAN'T TELL.

NO, THEY'RE NOT, THEY'RE NOT COVERED.

BUT THE BASKETBALL COURT IS OKAY.

UM,

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IN THIS PLAN.

THEY'RE NOT, IN CASE WE ARE, WE'RE ABLE TO GET SOME, YOU NEVER KNOW, SOME GRANT MONEY.

UM, SO, UM, PARKING, WE'LL HAVE, UH, THIS IS WHERE OUR SPLASH PAD AND, UH, THE, THE NEW PLAYGROUND WOULD GO.

UM, AGAIN, THOSE ARE JUST LIKE THE DRIVEWAYS.

THIS WOULD BE AN AREA WHERE, UH, WE WOULD HAVE OUR RESTROOM FACILITIES.

WE'LL ALSO HAVE A NEW RESTROOM FACILITY OVER HERE, UH, BUT ALSO AN AREA WHERE, UH, FOOD COURT, WHERE A FOOD COURT WHERE THEY TRUCKS COULD COME AND JUST PARK.

THAT'S REALLY THE KIND OF THE NEW THING.

NOT, YOU KNOW, I GUESS THE MOST EFFICIENT WAY TO, UH, PROVIDE, UH, REFRESHMENTS AND, AND CONCESSION SERVICES FOR THESE AREAS.

SO THIS IS JUST A BASE.

WE WOULD ALSO BE DOING THE TRAIL.

UM, YOU'LL SEE THAT THERE'LL JUST BE SOME OPEN AREAS, LIKE UP THERE IS JUST A SPORTS FIELD, UH, AND ANOTHER SPORTS FIELD UP THERE.

BUT WE WOULD ALSO, UM, WE ALSO PLAN TO DO, TO BEGIN THE WORK ON THE DOG PARK.

UH, AGAIN, HOW MUCH WE CAN DO ON THE DOG PARKS AND DEPEND ON IF WE'RE ABLE TO, UM, SECURE SOME ADDITIONAL GRANT.

BUT STILL DOING THAT WAS A RANDOM ONE, BUT PUMP TRACK OR NO, IT'LL BE IN OUR SETTING PHASE.

WHAT, WHAT DID YOU SAY? A PUMP, BMX PUMP TRACK.

COINCIDENTALLY, I HAVE PEOPLE IN MY DISTRICT, OBVIOUSLY WE LIVED AN ORIGINAL DESIGN FEATURE.

THAT'S WHAT THEY ASKED.

WE HAVEN'T CUT IT OUT.

WE'RE JUST NOT GONNA MAKE THE FIRST PHASE.

UM, ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS? SO, WHAT'S REALLY COOL ABOUT THIS IS A LOT OF THESE NEEDS THAT WE SEE, YOU KNOW, THAT MAY BE, WE LIKE THE MULTI-USE FIELDS, THE NUMBER OF BASKETBALL FIELDS, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THOSE ON THE HORIZON.

YOU'RE ON THE HORIZON.

WE'RE ABOUT TO BE ABLE TO MEET THE NEEDS, UM, YOU KNOW, SPECIFIC NEEDS THAT WE KNOW WE HAVE.

JUST REAL QUICK ON THE, ON THE PICKLE BALL, WOULD THEY, ARE THEY ENVISIONED THAT THEY COULD BE COVERED AT SOME LATER DATE? OR ARE THEY, IS THAT DESIGN ELEMENT BUILT INTO THE PLAN IN ANY WAY? YES, SIR.

IT IS.

YES, SIR.

COULD IT BE AS SIMPLE AS THOSE FABRIC SALES? SURE.

OVERHEAD SALES.

IT IS BACK TO WHAT, WHAT THE RESIDENTS, WHAT OUR, THE REQUEST IS.

BECAUSE YES, LIKE OUR BASKETBALL COURT, IT'S JUST GONNA BE SOMETHING SIMILAR TO WHAT WE HAVE NOW.

SOME PICKLEBALL PEOPLE SPOKE AT CITY COUNCIL A COUPLE YEARS AGO AND THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE AVERAGE PLAYER'S A LITTLE ON THE MORE MATURE SIDE, A HIGHER RISK FOR SKIN CANCER.

, IT'S ALL PEOPLE.

THEY'RE ALL, THEY'RE OLD.

SO SHADING PROTECTION, GONNA HAVE A A MS STATION OUT THERE MIGHT NEED TO.

YOU DO KNOW THAT THE A THE HUGE INCREASE IN KNEE AND HIP REPLACEMENTS IS DUE TO PICKLEBALL.

THEY LOOK AT FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES PER 1000 RESIDENTS.

PEOPLE OVER 15, 60 YEARS OF AGE, WE HAVE AN A ET, OR THE PODS ARE DOING GREAT, RIGHT? THEY'RE SPONSORING THE PICKLEBALL.

WE MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE STRATEGICALLY PLAN THE PICKLEBALL LOCATION NEXT TO THE PARKING LOT, MAY OR MAY NOT .

SO YOU CAN GET AN EMS. ALRIGHT, YOU GUYS, CAN WE GET A GRANT FROM A ERP? SO FACILITY MANAGEMENT, WE JUST WANTED TO TOUCH ON THIS.

UM, AND, AND ALSO USE THIS AS A, UM, AS AN EXAMPLE OF HOW WE'RE ABLE TO DO WHAT WE CAN WITH THE NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW.

SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, HOW CAN YOU, HOW DO YOU MANAGE YOUR DIFFERENT, YOUR DIFFERENT, UH, PARKS FACILITIES? IT DEPENDS ON THE FACILITY.

YOU KNOW, YOU MAY BE ABLE TO DO SOME OPEN PLAY FOR SOMETHING LIKE BASKETBALL.

UM, BUT THAT'S NOT GONNA PROBABLY WORK FOR YOUR BASEBALL FIELDS ALL THE TIME BECAUSE YOU KNOW THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A NEED FOR SOME KIND OF ORGANIZED, UH, PLAY EITHER FOR YOUTH AND ADULTS.

SO THERE'S THE OPEN PLAY OPTION WHERE YOU JUST HAVE STUFF OPEN AND PEOPLE CAN COME USE IT WHENEVER THEY WANT TO AND, AND, YOU KNOW, SET UP THEIR OWN TIMES, HEY, WE'RE GONNA MEET AT SIX O'CLOCK IN PLAY.

OR THERE IS, UH, CONTRACT MANAGEMENT WHERE YOU, UH, CONTRACT WITH SOMEONE EITHER TO LEASE YOUR FACILITY, UM, OR TO MANAGE IT THROUGH YOUTH PROGRAMS. AND, UH, THAT'S WHAT WE'VE CHOSEN, UH, IS TO PARTNER WITH FOLKS FOR SOCCER, FOR YOUTH SOCCER AS WELL AS, UH, YOUTH BASEBALL AND SOFTBALL.

UH, MAYBE THE T-BALL ALSO.

AND THEN ALSO FOR THE TENNIS CENTER, WE ALSO HAVE, UM, OUR SWIMMING PROGRAMS. WE HAVE, UM, THAT WE'VE WORKED WITH A PARTNER ON THAT TOO, UM, WHO REACHES OUT AND RUNS THOSE.

UM, OR YOU CAN HAVE YOUR CITY STAFF MANAGE ALL OF YOUR FACILITIES.

UM, AND THAT WOULD BE, UM, ACTUAL PHYSICAL FACILITIES IS OR YOUR, OR YOUR FIELDS OR, OR, UM, COURTS ARE SWIMMING POOL.

UM, THE REASON THAT WE ARE ABLE, SO WE HAVE 16 FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES THAT FOCUS ON OUR PARKS AND ON OUR FIELDS AND ON ALL OF THOSE FACILITIES.

THE REASON THAT WE'RE ABLE TO OPERATE WITH 16 FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES IS BECAUSE OF THE PARTNERSHIPS THAT WE HAVE, UH, WITH THESE OTHER LEADS AND, UH, THAT THEY, THAT THEY DO HELP US, UH, MAINTAIN THESE FIELDS.

UM, SO OUR N-N-R-P-A STANDARD, UH, WOULD BE, UH,

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SO WITH, UH, WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW FOR OUR 25,000 RESIDENTS, THEY WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE HAVE NINE FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES.

UM, AND THEN, UH, SO WE HAVE 16 OR NINE FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES PER 10,000 RESIDENTS.

SO, UH, WITH WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW, IT SHOWS THAT WE WOULD NEED 22 FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES TO ACTUALLY MAINTAIN WHAT WE HAVE.

UH, IF WE MOVED UP TO 30,000 RESIDENTS, WE WOULD NEED 27 FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES.

YOU KNOW, THE REASON THAT WE'RE ABLE TO DO WHAT WE CAN DO IS, FIRST OF ALL, WE'VE GOT SOME PHENOMENAL WORKERS, UH, THAT ARE WILLING TO, UM, MAINTAIN AND DO UNIQUE THINGS AT, AT BOTH PARKS, UH, BUT ALSO BECAUSE OF OUR PARTNERS.

NOW, THE CRAZY TOWN HERE, IF YOU LOOK OVER, UH, FOR 80,000, IF YOU'RE REALLY MEETING THE NEEDS OF YOUR 80,000 RESIDENTS, AND YOU HAVE ALL OF THE FACILITIES THAT WOULD MATCH 80,000 RESIDENTS, UM, THE NRPA STANDARD WOULD BE, UH, 11 FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES PER 10,000 RESIDENTS.

AND WE WOULD NEED TO HAVE 80.

SO THAT'S, THAT WOULD BE IF YOU'RE MAINTAINING EVERYTHING, YOUR YOURSELF, AND YOU HAVE ALL THOSE FIELDS.

SO YOU CAN SEE THAT, THAT THAT IS, UH, A LOT OF FOLKS.

AND SOMETHING TO ALSO CONSIDER WHEN IT COMES TO, UH, THE FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES.

THEY'RE CURRENTLY, THEY'RE NOT JUST MAINTAINING AND OPERATING THE BALL FIELDS, THEY'RE ALSO TAKING CARE OF THE TRAILS AND ANYTHING, UH, SPECIAL OUTSIDE OF THAT.

UM, THEY ALSO MAINTAIN THE FACILITIES IN THE CITY OF BURN.

THEY, AND THE LANDSCAPING, THE MOWING, AND THEY PICK UP, UM, UH, ANY, ANY SPECIALTIES THAT ARE, ARE COMING IN FROM OUR OWN, UH, PEERS, OUR OWN CITY EMPLOYEES, BECAUSE WE ALSO HELP WITH OUR FACILITY MAINTENANCE SIDE.

UM, WE DON'T HAVE, WE, WE HAVE TWO FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES ON THAT SIDE THAT TAKE CARE OF OUR FACILITIES AND TWO, SOMETIMES NEED MORE HELP.

SO THAT'S WHEN THE PARK STAFF ALSO STEPS IN AND, AND ASSIST WHERE THEY CAN.

SO THEY, THEY HAVE A, A BROAD RANGE OF RESPONSIBILITIES.

SO THERE'LL BE SOME FOCUS IN OUR UPCOMING BUDGET ON LIGHT SIZING, SETTLE THIS, ARE WE GONNA GET TO 22 FT? YOU KNOW, BUT WE KNOW WE'RE GONNA BE ADDING A WHOLE NOTHER 30 ACRES OF PARKS WITH OTHER FIELDS.

AND SO JUST LIKE WE'VE DONE WITH THE FIRE STATION AND ROLLING INTO THAT, ADDING STAFF A LITTLE BY LITTLE, WE'LL PROBABLY START DOING SOME OF THAT THIS YEAR ON THE PARK SIDE.

UM, WHAT WE ALSO WANT TO DO IS LOOK AT THE WAYS THAT WE, WE CAN LEVERAGE OUR RESOURCES.

SO, YOU KNOW, IS THERE AN OPPORTUNITY THAT WE CAN HAVE SOMEONE COME IN, UM, YOU KNOW, A WE CAN DO, DO A CONTRACT WITH SOMEONE, UH, WHO WOULD ACTUALLY MAINTAIN SOME OF THIS WORK FOR US? AND THAT WOULD BE A MORE EFFECTIVE WAY.

AND IT WOULD ALLOW OUR, YOU KNOW, OUR OWN PARK STAFF TO, UH, FOCUS ON THINGS LIKE REALLY DOING SOME AMAZING STUFF OUT OF WALL FIELDS, YOU KNOW, UM, AND, UH, THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TIME TO DO AND YOU'RE NOT ABLE TO DO WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THE, UH, FILTERS IN CITY HALL.

SO, UM, WE KNOW THAT THERE'S SOME OPPORTUNITY MOVING FORWARD REALLY QUICKLY.

UM, SO WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS, UH, JUST GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF THINGS THAT WE KNOW ARE ON THE HORIZON.

UH, WE DO PLAN TO PROPOSE A PARKS MASTER PLAN, UH, TO BE FUNDED IN THIS NEXT BUDGET.

YOU'LL SEE THAT COME BEFORE YOU.

UM, AND ALSO JUST BEGINNING THE DISCUSSIONS ON, UH, FACILITY USAGE AND, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S THE MOST EFFECTIVE WAY, UH, TO, UH, TO PROVIDE THE FACILITIES THAT WE KNOW WE NEED FOR THE GREATER BURN AREA.

WE KNOW WE'RE NOT JUST JUST MEETING THE NEEDS OF OUTRUN CITY RESIDENTS.

WE ALSO WANNA REVIEW THE FEE STRUCTURE FOR ALL SPORTS TO MAKE SURE THAT, THAT WE'RE DOING A GOOD JUDGE EQUITABLE SYSTEM AND THAT IT'S ALSO, UM, BASED ON, ON THE RIGHT PARAMETERS.

AND THEN AS BEN TALKED ABOUT, WE WANT TO DO A DEEP DIVE SURVEY, UH, PROBABLY A, A PAT LIKE OUR PARK PATRON SURVEY.

SO WE'LL LOOK AT, UH, PUTTING SOMETHING TOGETHER FOR THAT AND LET YOU ALL KNOW, UH, WHAT WE FIND OUT ON THAT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS THAT I MIGHT BE ABLE TO ASK? ANSWER, YES, SIR.

ONE COMMENT I'VE HAD ACROSS THE NU NUMEROUS CONSTITUENTS TALK TO ME ABOUT PARKS AND THE RELATIONSHIP IS, HAS BEEN SOME OF THE CONTRACTORS.

THERE'S SOME, THERE'S BEEN SOME TALK ABOUT HOW THEY FEEL LIKE THE MANAGEMENT OF THE, THE GROUPS WE HAVE TO MANAGEMENT HAVE KIND OF BEEN SET IN STONE.

AND THERE THERE ARE OTHER PEOPLE THAT COULD MANAGE AND, AND SO I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A CONTRACT STRUCTURE THAT WE PUT OUT FOR BID THAT, AND IF, IF THERE IS, MAYBE IT JUST NEEDS TO BE PUBLICIZED A LITTLE BIT MORE.

BUT I, I, I THINK THERE'S SOME APPETITE FOR SOME CHANGE IN SOME OF THE MANAGEMENT GROUPS THAT MAY BE INVOLVED IN SOME OF THE IN PROGRAMS. AND WHETHER THAT'S GONNA CHANGE OR NOT, I JUST, I DON'T KNOW IF WE, UH, MAYBE JUST NEED TO PUBLICIZE THAT OPPORTUNITY THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A, YOU KNOW, POOL MANAGED BY X GROUP WITH THAT CONTRACT'S GONNA COME UP, YOU KNOW, ON THIS DATE, OPEN FOR, YOU KNOW, SUGGESTIONS OR, YOU KNOW, BIDS FOR MANAGING THAT.

JUST TO GIVE THEM,

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I'D JUST LIKE TO SEE A MORE PUBLIC OPPORTUNITY.

SAY, HEY, IT, IT WAS BID, YOU KNOW, WE HAD THREE PEOPLE.

LOOK, WE PICKED THE BEST ONE.

UM, ANYWAY, THAT WAS A THOUGHT.

I, I, I'VE HEARD THAT OVER THE NUMBER OF YEARS ON CERTAIN PROGRAMS COMING AND GOING.

SO I WANT, UM, AS OF JANUARY, UM, ACTUALLY THE, THE AFFILIATE THAT YOU WERE IN, IN REGARDS TO THE POOL, UM, OUR CONTRACTOR WAS AN ORGANIZATION CALLED OFFICE WITH MM-HMM .

THEY SOLD THEIR, WELL, SORRY, THE CURRENT MANAGER FOR OFFICE WITH, UM, SOLD IT TO A DIFFERENT MANAGER.

THEY KEPT THE SAME NAME AND THEY'RE IN THE PROCESS OF SWITCHING OFF OF SWITCH TO A DIFFERENT NAME NOW.

UM, SO THIS IS ACTUALLY RAN BY A DIFFERENT, UH, COACH.

I JUST PICKED, I JUST PICKED THE POOL OUT THE BLUE.

I, I MEAN SOCCER.

UM, I'VE HEARD COMPLAINTS ABOUT THAT THUNDER, THUNDER SOCCER PROGRAM.

UH, I'VE HEARD COMPLAINTS ABOUT THE TENNIS, UH, I'VE HEARD COMPLAINTS ABOUT THE BASEBALL.

I'VE HEARD, UH, UH, I'VE HEARD SAY IT JUST, IT'S KIND OF BROAD BASE.

I, I'VE HEARD A LOT OF IT.

IT JUST, PEOPLE HAVE NOT FELT THAT THEY, LIKE, I COULD DO A BETTER JOB.

I COULD RUN A BETTER PROGRAM.

IT'S LIKE, WELL, DID YOU BID ON IT? LIKE, I'VE NEVER HEARD ABOUT A BID.

I DON'T KNOW HOW TO DO THAT.

SO PART OF IT, LIKE YOUTH ASSOCIATIONS, WE DON'T BID OUT.

THEY HAVE AN ESTABLISHED ASSOCIATION AND ORGANIZATION TEAM STRUCTURE.

THEY'RE COMING TO US AND THAT'S WHEN WE PARTNER WITH THEM AND SOMEONE ELSE CAME OUT AND SAID, OH, I CAN, I CREATED A NEW ASSOCIATION.

AND THEY SHOW US THEY HAVE THE MAJORITY OF THE, ESPECIALLY PROBABLY THEY GO TALK WITH THEM.

WE ACTUALLY HAVE, SO LIKE WITH SOCCER, THERE ARE TWO ASSOCIATIONS THAT RUN.

ONCE A SOCCER ASSOCIATION IS ESTABLISHED AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE ABLE TO SHOW THAT THEY HAVE SOME PARTICIPANTS, THEN WE'VE HAVE TRADITIONALLY GONE IN AND GONE, OKAY, IF THERE ARE 2000 TOTAL SOCCER PLAYERS AND YOU'RE A 10TH OF THAT TOTAL POPULATION, THEN YOU GET A 10TH OF THE USE.

UM, SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.

LIKE BEN SAID, WITH, WITH ASSOCIATE YOUTH ASSOCIATIONS.

THOSE ARE GROUPS THAT ARE COMING AND SAY, WE WANT TO RENT YOUR FACILITIES.

'CAUSE WE WANT TO DO THIS.

AS OPPOSED TO SAY A CONCESSIONAIRE, UH, THAT'S RUNNING CONCESSION STAND FOR THE POOL OR RUNNING, UH, THE CONCESSIONS FOR TENNIS POOL AREN'T SOME OF THOSE COMBINED, LIKE CONCESSIONS.

WERE RUN BY SOME OF OUR MANAGER, OUR GROUPS AT SOME POINT EARLY.

WHEN I FIRST GOT HERE.

SO MAYBE THEY WERE, THE AGREEMENTS WERE, THAT WAS ONE OF THE YEAH.

SOCCER RAN THERE.

SO THEY CONCESSIONS.

CONCESSIONS.

AND SO WE STOPPED THAT TOO.

WELL, SOCCER HAS THE MEANS, SOCCER HAS THE MEANS TO RUN, TO HAVE FOOD TRUCKS.

SO WE HAVE FOOD, FOOD TRUCK, UM, SO THEY ONLY RUN IT DURING THEIR TIME.

WE UP QUICKLY CLEAN UP ALL OF OUR OVER OVERAGE TIME.

UM, AND BERNIE LITTLE, WE HAD THE SAME OPPORTUNITY AS WELL.

UH, BUT THEY CHOSE NOT TO.

THEY HAVE OTHER, OTHER OBLIGATIONS TO FOCUS ON.

SO WE, WE CONTRACT THAT ONE NOW, BUT IT ALSO WOULDN'T BE DIFFICULT AS WE'RE LOOKING WITH FEE STRUCTURES, WE COULD ALSO LOOK AT OUR, OUR, YOU KNOW, OUR PARTNERSHIPS.

SO I THINK THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE WORTHWHILE DOING.

YOU KNOW, ONE OTHER THING THAT I, THAT I FAILED TO MENTION IS THAT WE REALLY DIDN'T GO INTO, UM, YOU KNOW, SPECIFICALLY WITH LIKE THE BASEBALL AND SOFTBALL FIELDS, THE, UH, TOURNAMENTS, YOU KNOW, AND THE, THE TRAVEL LEAGUES THAT COME IN.

AND SO WE DO THOSE ON THE WEEKENDS NOW, YOU KNOW, BUT THAT'S A, THAT'S A DISCUSSION TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO CONTINUE, UM, AND OFFER OUR, OUR FACILITIES TO OUTSIDE GROUPS, YOU KNOW? OR DO WE WANT TO ALLOW OUR OWN YOUTH LEADS, UH, TO HAVE MORE OF AN IMPACT ON THE WEEKEND? YES, SIR.

FOR THOSE, ARE THEY PLAYING BERNIE TEAMS WHEN THEY COME OR THEY'RE, IT'S EXCLUSIVE TO OUTSIDE TEAMS? I WOULD SAY IT'S BOTH.

ISN'T, IT'S BOTH.

SO WE, UM, WHEN IT COMES TO TOURNAMENTS, RIGHT, THE PREVIOUS PAST TWO YEARS, WE JUST STICK TO THIS LAST FEW YEARS, THERE ARE OUTSIDE ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE PRIMARILY ADULT TOURNAMENTS.

MM-HMM .

UM, AND THEN, AND OF COURSE, YES, WE DO HAVE YOUTH TOURNAMENTS AS WELL, BUT WHAT WE'RE SEEING IS THE ADULT TOURNAMENTS COMING IN, UM, NOW WE'VE MADE SOME CHANGES TO THE AGREEMENT WITH THIS YEAR.

SO DURING, BECAUSE OF HOW MUCH PUBLICITY THEY HAVE RECEIVED, OBVIOUSLY THEY'RE RECEIVING MORE ENROLLMENT.

UM, BUT WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH FUEL TO ACCOMMODATE ALL OF THOSE KIDS.

UH, SO TRADITIONALLY THEY, DEPENDING ON THE SEASON, THEY COULD HAVE THE FIELDS, UM, RESERVED FOR THEM ALMOST SEVEN DAYS OR FIVE DAYS OUT OF THE WEEK.

SO NOW WE'VE ACTUALLY TO HELP ACCOMMODATE SOME OF THAT NEED FOR PRACTICE TIME.

WE'VE, UM, WE'VE CUT DOWN ON HOW MANY TOURNAMENTS ARE ALLOWED TO HAVE DURING THE SEASON OF OLA LEAGUE TO AGAIN, FACT THERE, JUST PROVIDING MORE PRACTICE ON THAT.

NOW, WHEN WE'RE NOT IN SEASON, FIELDS ARE OPEN FOR ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO HAVE A, I MEAN, JUST HATS OFF TO YOUR, YOUR DEPARTMENT WAS THAT PARKS AND RECS, I MEAN, WE GOT SOME OF THE BEST PARKING WORKS FACILITIES IN THE, I THINK IN THE STATE OF TEXAS.

YOUR, YOUR GROUP DOES AN AMAZING JOB.

SO THANK YOU GUYS FOR WHAT ALL YOU DO.

THANK YOU.

JUST WAIT, WE GET BETTER.

DISTRICT WINES READY? YES.

, OUR LAST DIRECTOR BUCK

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TO COME ON UP.

[8. DISCUSSION: BUDGETING FOR OUR STRATEGIC PRIORITIES]

I'VE BEEN TOLD I TALK TOO FAST, SO I'M GONNA TRY TO OR TALK TOO.

LEMME KNOW IF YOU CAN'T HEAR ME TOO.

BUT THANK YOU ALL AGAIN FOR COMING OUT TONIGHT.

DIRECTORS, MAYOR, COUNCIL, THIS IS SUCH A CRITICAL FIRST STEP TO START GETTING SOME OF THOSE IDEAS OF THE DIRECTION WE'RE GONNA HEAD THIS YEAR IN THE BUDGET SEASON.

AND THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME ROUND OUT THIS DISCUSSION BY TALKING ABOUT OUR BUDGET PROCESS FOR THIS UPCOMING YEAR.

AND SO, OF COURSE, AGAIN, OUR STRATEGY MAP, AND I, I LIKE THAT MY STUFF IS ONE OF THE ONLY THINGS THAT I GET TO CIRCLE THE WHOLE DARN THING.

BUT, UM, REALLY ONE THING THAT I REALLY WANNA FOCUS AND DO A BETTER JOB OF COMMUNICATING TO THE COMMUNITY THIS YEAR IS OUR COMMITMENT TO STRATEGIC, RESPONSIBLE, AND CONSERVATIVE FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT.

UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I SAW IN A LOT OF COMMENTS WAS CONSERVATIVE.

I KEPT SEEING THAT WORD OVER AND OVER AGAIN.

I SAID, IF THEY ONLY KNEW THAT IT'S IN OUR, IN OUR STRATEGY MAP.

SO WE, WE NEED TO GET THE WORD OUT BETTER.

WE KNOW WE'RE DOING A GOOD JOB, BUT I, I WANNA GET A BETTER JOB OUT THERE AND COMMUNICATE THIS IS WHAT WE'RE DOING AND WE'RE, WE ARE CONSERVATIVE AND STRATEGIC.

THIS, AGAIN, BEN HAD GONE THROUGH OUR STRATEGIC BUDGET MANAGEMENT CYCLE AND HERE WE ARE TONIGHT KICKING THE PROCESS OFF AGAIN ON THAT LEG OF THE CURVE.

THE BUDGET PROCESS IS JUST ONE COMPONENT OF THE OVERALL STRATEGIC FRAMEWORK FROM THE EMPLOYEES AT THE OPERATIONAL LEVEL, SUPPORTING THE WHOLE ORGANIZATION UP TO THE CITIZENS WHO SET OUR VISION.

WE, UH, WE SET OUR STRATEGIC PRIORITIES, WE EXECUTE THEM, AND THEN WE MEASURE THE RESULTS.

AND AS I GO THROUGH THESE, I KNOW THAT THESE ARE SLIDES THAT YOU ALL ARE PROBABLY FAMILIAR WITH, AND YOU'RE GONNA SEE 10 TIMES AGAIN IN ALL THE UPCOMING WORKSHOPS DURING THE BUDGETS.

BUT PLEASE TELL ME, STOP ME IF ANYTHING ON HERE.

YOU WANT US TO CHANGE, YOU WANT US TO THINK ABOUT DIFFERENTLY.

THAT'S, THAT'S THE PURPOSE OF THIS IS LET, LET ME KNOW IF THIS STRATEGY IS STILL GONNA WORK FOR US THIS UPCOMING YEAR.

OF COURSE, WE KNOW THE BUDGET PROCESS IS HIGHLY GOVERNED BY THE LAW.

UM, I'LL SAVE TIME BY NOT GOING THROUGH IT ALL.

YOU GUYS ARE AWARE, THE HOME RULE CHARTER, OF COURSE, REEMPHASIZES THAT WE, UM, ADHERE TO THOSE LAWS AND THAT WE ADOPT A BALANCED BUDGET.

OUR BUDGET, OF COURSE, UM, FOLLOWS THE DESIGN GUIDING PRINCIPLES.

FIRST AND FOREMOST, WE ARE STRONGLY ALIGNED WITH OUR STRATEGIC PLANS, OUR MASTER PLANS.

AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS IT PROVIDES CONTINUITY.

YOU'RE OVER YEAR, ESPECIALLY WITH THE PROJECTS THAT TAKE MULTIPLE YEARS.

IF YOU'RE ALIGNED IN THOSE STRATEGIC PLANS AND YOU KNOW WHAT PROJECTS ARE PRIORITIZED AND IMPORTANT TO YOU, WE CAN STATE THE COURSE.

OF COURSE, WE ARE COMMITTED THIS YEAR, AGAIN, TO MANAGE GROWTH IN THE BUDGET WHILE MAINTAINING SERVICE LEVELS AND WATCHING OPERATIONAL IMPACTS, MINIMIZING THE OPERATIONAL IMPACTS.

WHEN WE TALK ABOUT STRUCTURAL BALANCE AND OPTIMAL FUND BALANCE, WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AGAIN, IS THAT BALANCED BUDGET CONCEPT.

WE DON'T USE RESERVES TO FUND OUR OPERATIONAL BUDGET.

UM, YOU MAY RECALL, WE JUST WENT THROUGH THIS PROCESS AT THE END OF THE YEAR WHEN THERE'S SURPLUSES, WE CARVE ASIDE THOSE SURPLUSES FOR CAPITAL, AND THAT'S HOW WE'RE ABLE TO CASH FUNDS SO MUCH OF OUR INFRASTRUCTURE.

IT KEEPS OUR DEBT MANAGEABLE, KEEPS OUR DEBT RATE MANAGEABLE.

IT'S PART OF OUR TAX RATE MANAGEMENT STRATEGY.

UM, AND LASTLY OF COURSE, WE WANNA MAINTAIN OUR AS EMPLOYER CHOICE.

THIS IS A NEW SLIDE.

I, I WANNA AGAIN, UM, GET THE WORD OUT THERE THAT OUR BUDGET PROCESS REALLY IS GROUNDED IN THESE FOUR PHILOSOPHIES HERE BY MANAGING IT WITH A ZERO BASED BUDGETING APPROACH.

WE HAVE A COLA THAT'S BASED ON POLICY.

IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT GOES UP AND DOWN ON A WHIM.

IT'S, IT'S A POLICY THAT'S SET, UM, TO BENCHMARKS.

OF COURSE, GROUNDING OUR CAPITAL PLANNING AND THOSE MASTER PLANS AND STRATEGIC PLANS IS CRITICAL.

AND WE HAVE AN OVERARCHING DESIRE FOR STRONG COMMITMENT TO TRANSPARENCY.

SPEAKING OF THAT, I HAVE TO PUT THIS UP IN THERE AGAIN, BECAUSE WE'RE SO VERY PROUD THAT WE HAVE WON THESE AWARDS.

UM, IT IS NOT EASY TO GET THIS AWARD FOR A BUDGET TO GET IT.

YOU HAVE TO ACT AS A POLICY DOCUMENT, A FINANCIAL PLAN AND OPERATIONS GUIDE, AND HAVE AN OVERALL ARCHING COMMITMENT TO TRANSPARENCY.

I THINK ONLY 102 GOVERNMENTS IN THE WHOLE COUNTRY.

GOT IT.

SO WHEN WE SET THE BAR, IT IS WAY ABOVE THE LEGAL MINIMUM.

I MEAN, WE ARE GOING WAY ABOVE THE LEGAL MINIMUM STANDARD OF WHAT WE SHOULD PER BUDGET

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ZERO BASED BUDGETING.

I WANTED TO TAKE A SECOND AND EXPLAIN WHAT THAT IS.

UM, IT REQUIRES THAT ALL EXPENSES HAVE TO BE JUSTIFIED AND APPROVED, AND WE START THAT OPERATIONAL BUDGET AT ZERO.

SO WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE IS WE START BY ZEROING OUT THE OPERATIONAL BUDGET FOR EVERYBODY.

WE MAKE SURE THAT NONE OF THOSE ONE ONETIME EXPENSES CARRY OVER FROM LAST YEAR.

IF YOU BOUGHT A NEW PIECE OF EQUIPMENT, THEY DON'T, THEY DON'T GET TO CARRY THAT BUDGET FORWARD AND SPEND IT ON SOMETHING ELSE.

THEY GOTTA JUSTIFY WHY THEY'RE GONNA SPEND IT.

THEN WE LOOK AT THOSE RECURRING EXPENSES AND WE MAKE SURE, ARE WE STILL GETTING THE VALUE FROM THOSE CONTRACTS THAT WE HAVE IN THE PAST? DO THOSE EXPENSES NEED TO CONTINUE? AND LASTLY, IF THERE'S NEW INCREASES OR NEW REQUESTS, THEY NEED TO GO THROUGH A CHALLENGE AND RANKING PROCESS PRIORITIZATION.

THIS IS OUR PROPOSED CALENDAR FOR THE UPCOMING YEAR.

UM, OVER THE NEXT FEW MONTHS, WE'LL OF COURSE BE GIVING YOU UPDATES ALONG THE WAY.

THEN WE'RE GONNA HAVE A WHOLE BUNCH OF WORKSHOPS.

AND THIS IS ONE OF OUR QUESTIONS FOR YOU IS, DOES, DOES THIS LOOK ENOUGH? IS IT TOO MUCH? WE'LL HAVE, UM, AN OVERALL BUDGET UPDATE PRESENTATION IN JUNE.

WE'LL HAVE A WORKSHOP SPECIFIC SPECIFICALLY FOR OUR CAPITAL INFRASTRUCTURE PLANS, ONE FOR UTILITIES, ANOTHER ONE FOR THE GOVERNMENTAL OPERATIONAL BUDGET.

AND THEN WE'LL ROLL INTO ALL THOSE PRESENTATIONS THAT YOU MAY REMEMBER FROM THE ADOPTION PROCESS.

FINALLY ADOPTING THE BUDGET ON SEPTEMBER 9TH.

SO THIS CALENDAR THAT WE'RE PROPOSING, AND AGAIN, SOME DATES MAY E IN FLOW A LITTLE BIT.

WE'LL SEND, WE'LL SEND THIS PRESENTATION, OTHER PRESENTATIONS TO YOU SO YOU CAN HAVE TO REFER BACK TO YOU.

BUT THIS MIRROR IS KIND OF SIMILAR APPROACH TO WHAT WE DID THIS LAST YEAR WHERE WE ADDED A LOT, A FEW OF MORE MEETINGS ON IT.

HOW DID THAT FEEL TO YOU LAST YEAR? JUST RIGHT.

NOT ENOUGH.

AGAIN, YOU CAN GET BACK TO ME LATER IF YOU DON'T KNOW.

I THINK IT WAS JUST RIGHT, BUT I WOULDN'T BE THOSE TWO MORE FREQUENT TOUCH POINTS.

I I THE, FOR ME AT LEAST, LIKE ONE MORE SUB MEETING WITH ANOTHER COUNCIL MEMBER, MAYOR YOU.

SO WHATEVER YOU GUYS KIND OF LINE US UP WITH, I THINK THAT'D BE BENEFICIAL DURING THE PROCESS BEFORE WE GET TO THE WORKSHOP.

I THINK IT'S ALWAYS JUST HELPFUL TO KIND OF LIKE YOU GUYS DO WITH US, BUT MAYBE ONE MORE.

WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT AND GET BACK AT YOU.

LASTLY, WE ARE JUST AGAIN LOOKING FOR OVERALL FEEDBACK IN THE BUDGET PROCESS BEFORE WE START KICKING OFF.

SO WE MAKE SURE WE'RE HEADED DOWN THE RIGHT PATH OR EVEN BASED OFF OF ANYTHING YOU HEARD, I NEED THE PRIORITIES.

LIKE, HEY, CAN WE START THINKING ABOUT THIS BEFORE WE DO OUR DEPARTMENTAL KICKOFF? I MEAN, IF THERE'S CERTAIN THINGS, MAYBE YOU DON'T HAVE SPECIFICS YOU WANNA SEE IN THE BUDGET, BUT YOU'D LIKE US TO EXPLORE SOME STUFF, YOU KNOW, NOW OR WITHIN THE NEXT COUPLE WEEKS.

LEMME KNOW.

PURPLE PIPE.

YOU SAID PURPLE PIPES.

AND PURPLE PIPES.

YEAH, I'M BIG ON PURPLE PIPE.

I'M ALL THE WAY UP THE CREEK PAST .

WE TALKED ABOUT IT.

WHERE DO YOU SEE FUTURE GROWTH? I MEAN, WE KNOW WHERE WE KNOW, WE THINK WE KNOW WHERE IT'S COMING.

THAT'S WHERE WE NEED TO EXPAND THAT PURPLE PIPE SO WE CAN MAKE, YOU KNOW, UH, REQUIREMENTS FOR THAT EXPANSION.

SO AT UH, COUNCIL MEETING NEXT MONTH, DIRECTOR MANN WILL

[9. CLOSING & NEXT STEPS]

BE GIVING YOU AN UPDATE ON, UM, A WATER CONSUMPTION CONSERVATION EFFORTS AND WHAT'S GOING ON.

AND HE AND I HAVE ALREADY HAD CONVERSATIONS ABOUT ROLLING INTO OUR CAPITAL CIP PLAN, SOME PURPLE PIPE PROJECTS.

AND SO HE'S, THAT IS SOMETHING WE'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT.

AT SOME POINT YOU MIGHT WANT TO HAVE A WATER PRESENTATION.

I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT JUST WATER, I'M TALKING ABOUT FUTURE PLANNING BECAUSE I KEEP HEARING FROM PEOPLE IN THE COUNTY THAT WHEN THEIR WELL HAS TO BE DRILLED DEEPER AND WHEN THEY RUN OUTTA WATER, IT'S THE CITY OF BURN'S FAULT.

AND I KEEP RESPONDING TO THEM.

WHEN I HEAR THIS, I SAY, WELL, TELL ME WHAT THE COUNTY'S WATER PLAN IS.

AND THEY SAY, WELL, THEY DON'T HAVE ONE.

I SAID, WELL, OKAY, THANK YOU.

AND SO, I MEAN, THEIR PLAN IS TO DRILL MORE WELLS.

WELL, WELL, THE POINT I'M GONNA MAKE RIGHT NOW, THE POINT I WANNA MAKE IS THAT THIS LANIER HOME PROJECT UP BY COMFORT THAT YOU'VE I'M SURE READ ABOUT.

I DON'T THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE REALIZE THAT IF THEY DO A-T-C-E-Q, UH, AQUIFER TEST AND THEY FIND THAT THE AQUIFER IS THE SATISFACTORY, COW CREEK HAS TO ISSUE THEM A WELL PERMIT FOR ALL OF THOSE 1000 OR 2000 OR WHATEVER THE NUMBER OF PHONES IS.

THAT'S NOT THE CITY OF BURN.

THAT'S THE STATE OF TEXAS WHICH CONTROLS THE WATERTON CONSERVATION DISTRICTS.

AT SOME POINT WE NEED TO EXPLAIN TO PEOPLE THAT WE, OUR RESPONSIBILITIES TO THE CITIZENS OF BURN.

AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO TELL PEOPLE IN THE COUNTY WHEN THEY ESTIMATE.

WELL, AGAIN, YEAH, DIRECTOR MAN AND I HAVE TALKED HIS CON HIS PRESENTATION IS THE NEXT ONE, MIKE.

TO DRIVE THAT FOR EVERYONE ELSE.

THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING.

WE'LL TOUCH EVEN ON SOME OF THOSE ELEMENTS THAT AGAIN, AND THERE'S COMMENTS IN THE SURVEY ABOUT, HEY, WE NEED TO WORK WITH COUNTY AND OTHER SURROUNDING COUNTIES TO CREATE THAT REGIONAL PLAN.

AND WE, WE'D BE A PART OF THAT, BUT THAT'S NOT REALLY NOT OUR RESPONSIBILITY

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AND HE'S DONE A GOOD JOB OF SETTING US UP IN A PLAN, IN A PLANNING PERSPECTIVE THAT WE KNOW WHAT WE CAN DO AND WHAT WHERE OUR CONCERNS ARE.

AND SO HE'LL TOUCH ON ALL THAT.

UH, ONE OTHER ONE IS A BOND OF SOME FORM, AND THAT IS RELATED TO BUDGET.

UM, WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, YOU KNOW, UP, UP TO WHETHER IT'S US OR THE NEXT, NEXT GROUP, BUT CITY.

AND THEN NOT THAT WE'LL HAVE ANY LUCK WITH THE COUNTY, BUT UM, YOU KNOW, PUSHING THEM ON IT, YOU KNOW, WITH THE DATA THAT WE HAVE FROM CITIZEN SURVEY ON TRANSPORTATION SPECIFICALLY, BUT THAT'D BE THE OTHER ONE.

YEAH, I, I FAILED TO MENTION THAT.

WELL, MAYBE I DID TOMORROW, DIRECTOR SHADOW UP WILL POST THE SURVEY ON OUR WEBSITE.

I'LL SEND THE EMAIL TO THE COUNTY COMMISSIONER'S COURT LETTING 'EM KNOW, HEY, HERE'S HOW YOU CAN LOOK AT IT.

I'D BE MORE THAN WILLING TO SIT DOWN AND WALK YOU THROUGH IT.

YOU GUYS CAN DO THE SAME AND OFFER THAT UP.

BUT YEAH, WE'RE GONNA EVEN HAVE MEETINGS WITH TDOT AND ON THE MOBILITY POLICE AND OTHER COMMUNITY PARTNERS.

WELL, I THINK THAT THE PRESENTATION ON OUR PARKS, THAT THAT PRESENTATION IS THERE SHOULD BE SENT DIRECTLY TO THE COUNTY.

I THINK THERE ARE SOME POSSIBILITIES THAT WE SHOULD BE COLLABORATING ON.

SOME OF, WE GOT SOME LAND, THEY'VE GOT THEIR RESIDENTS OF THE COUNTY ARE COMING INTO OUR, INTO THE CITY.

I THINK THERE'S SOME, MAYBE THERE'S SOME WAYS WE COULD COLLABORATE ON SOME, SOME PROJECTS THERE.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT'D DO ANYTHING, BUT IT CERTAINLY, IT'S A GOOD PRESENTATION THAT THEY SHOULD HAVE.

UH, I'D LOVE TO WORK WITH THE COUNTY ON SOME PROJECTS.

DO, DO THEY HAVE RESTRICTIONS ON DOING WORK WITHIN THE CITY? LIKE MAYBE ON PROPERTY THEY DON'T OWN? I I'VE HEARD SOMETHING LIKE THE SCHOOL DISTRICT HAD PROBLEMS LIKE, YOU KNOW, COLLABORATING WITH US ON THE POOL 'CAUSE THEY HAD TO OWN THE PROPERTY AND THAT KIND OF STUFF.

DOES THE COUNTY HAVE ANY PROBLEMS LIKE THAT? LIKE DO YOU KNOW? UH, THAT I DON'T KNOW.

I DID, I HAVE ASKED ABOUT, HEY, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S A PROPERTY THEY CAN BUY AND THEY HELP THEIR PARK, THAT WE COULD DO SOME COLLABORATION WHERE WE MAINTAIN IT OR WHATNOT.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEIR RESTRICTIONS ARE ON THAT.

I, I'D HAVE TO ASK.

LIKE WE TALKED ABOUT LIKE ON THAT THE PARKING GARAGE IS THERE, YOU KNOW, THEY OWN IT.

WE'RE HELPING WITH THEM.

I I I WE DON'T HAVE ANY RESTRICTIONS ON HELPING PROPERTY.

WE DON'T OWN PER SE.

NO.

WE CAN CREATE PARTNERSHIP AGREEMENTS.