Jun 03, 2025 Historic Landmark Commission on 06/03/2025 5:30 PM

[1. CALL TO ORDER – 5:30 PM]

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GOOD EVENING.

I'D LIKE TO CALL THIS MEETING, UM, ADJOURN OR TO START, SORRY.

IT'S JUNE 3RD AT 5 32.

WE'RE STARTING THE HISTORICAL LANDMARK COMMISSION MEETING.

UM, WE DO HAVE, OR COMMISSIONERS,

[2. CONFLICT OF INTEREST ]

SHE DOES.

AND UM, THE ITEMS THAT SHE HAS CONFLICTS OF INTEREST ON, WE ARE GOING TO TABLE 'EM UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING.

'CAUSE WE WON'T HAVE A QUORUM TO BE ABLE TO VOTE ON THOSE ITEMS. SO WHEN WE GET TO THOSE ON THE AGENDA, I'LL JUST SAY WE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TABLING 'EM UNTIL THE NEXT MONTH.

UM, ARE WE

[3. OATHS OF OFFICE: Administer oaths of office ]

TWO OF THEM ARE HERE THIS EVENING.

SO, SALLY, WOULD YOU LIKE TO GO FIRST? SURE.

IF YOU WANNA GO AHEAD AND WALK DOWN AND LIZ WILL GIVE YOU A PIECE OF PAPER AND WALK YOU THROUGH WHAT WE'RE DOING.

DID YOU EVER HAVE TO DO THAT? I SOLEMNLY SWEAR THAT I FAITHFULLY THE OF THE CITY OF, TO THE STATE OF TEXAS AND WILL TO BEST OF MY ABILITY STATES CAESAR.

YES.

I SEIZE YOUR HANDS.

DO SOLEMNLY SWEAR THAT I WILL PHYSICALLY EXECUTE THE DUTIES OF THE OFFICE OF THE HISTORIC LANDMARK COMMISSION FOR THE CITY OF BI, OF THE STATE OF TEXAS AND WILL DO THE BEST OF MY ABILITY, PRESERVE, PROTECT, AND DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION AND LAWS OF THE UNITED STATES AND OF THIS STATE.

SO HELP ME NOT SO THE NEXT ITEM IS PUBLIC COMMENTS.

THIS IS THE OPPORTUNITY FOR VISITORS AND GUESTS TO ADDRESS THE HISTORICAL LANDMARK COMMISSION ON ANY ISSUES.

THE HISTORIC LANDMARK COMMISSION MAY NOT DISCUSS ANY PRESENTED ISSUES, NOR MAY WE TAKE ACTION TO BE TAKEN AT ANY OF THE ISSUES AT THIS TIME.

HAS ANYBODY SIGNED UP OR WANNA COME AND GIVE US JUST A MOMENT? WE DO NOT HAVE ANYBODY SIGNED UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.

SO THE NEXT

[5. CONSENT AGENDA: All items listed below within the Consent Agenda are considered routine by the Historic Landmark Commission and may be enacted with one motion. There will be no separate discussion of items unless a Commission Member or citizen so requests, in which event the item may be moved to the general order of business and considered in its normal sequence.]

THIS ITEM, THESE ITEMS LISTED BELOW ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, ARE CONSIDERED ROUTINE BY THE HISTORICAL LANDMARK COMMISSION AND MAY BE INTACT WITH ONE MISSION, WITH ONE MOTION.

UH, THIS WILL BE ON A SEPARATE, NO SEPARATE DISCUSSION OF THE ITEMS UNLESS THE COMMISSION MEMBERS OR CITIZENS.

SO REQUEST IN WHICH EACH EVENT THE ITEM MAY BE MOVED TO THE GENERAL ORDER OF BUSINESS AND CONSIDERED IN THE NORMAL SEQUENCE.

FIRST, REGULAR AGENDA ITEM IS 2 0 2 5 DASH 2 4 3 A.

CONSIDER APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FOR THE HISTORICAL LANDMARK COMMISSION COMMISSIONERS.

ANYBODY A MOTION? MADAM CHAIRMAN, I MOVE TO APPROVE THE MINUTES AS, UH, PRESENTED.

GOT FIRST BY COMMISSIONER NICHOLS AND THE SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MINES RESET.

TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES AT THE MOMENT.

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IT SAYS VERBALLY APPROVED IF IF THE TECH, OH, THERE WE GO.

UM, THE MOTION FOR THE MINUTES AS APPROVED.

SO NOW WE'LL MOVE

[6.A. Consider a request for a demolition permit for the structure(s) located at 310 West Theissen Street.]

IT'S CONSIDERED THE REQUEST OF DEMOLITION, DEMOLITION PERMIT FOR THE STRUCTURES LOCATED AT 3 1 0 WEST TYSON STREET.

TRY TO OPEN THE PRESENTATION.

FOSTER OPEN IT FROM MY SIDE.

SURE THING.

AND THIS ONE AS A DEMO REQUEST.

IT DOES HAVE TWO ITEMS. THE STAFF WILL DO A PRESENTATION AND THEN THERE'S A PUBLIC COMMENT SECTION IF ANYBODY HAS ANY COMMENTS THAT WE'D LIKE TO SAY ABOUT THE DEMO.

AND THEN WE'LL GO FROM COMMISSIONERS FROM THERE.

GO AHEAD, SORRY.

ALRIGHT.

I BELIEVE WE'RE STILL PULLING UP.

THE LINK IS BROKEN.

IT'S BROKEN.

AWESOME.

WELL, GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS.

MY NAME IS FOSTER SIMONSON.

I'M A PLANNING INTERN HERE AT THE CITY OF BERNIE FOR THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT.

AND THIS HERE IS THREE 10 WEST DYSON STREET.

UH, THE APPLICANT IS BRADLEY WELLS ON BEHALF OF THE PROPERTY OWNER, HERMAN HENRY HAAS.

THE REQUEST IS FOR A DEMOLITION PERMIT.

AND THE REASON THIS IS BEFORE YOU IS BECAUSE THIS, UH, IS BECAUSE THIS PROPERTY IS OVER 50 YEARS OLD, EVEN THOUGH IT'S OUTSIDE OF THIS HISTORIC DISTRICT.

SO LOOKING FROM THE STREET VIEW, THIS IS A SINGLE FAMILY HOME THAT'S AROUND 3,100 SQUARE FEET.

IT HAS A THREE CAR GARAGE, HAS TWO ACCESSORY STRUCTURES IN THE, IN THE REAR END OF THE PROPERTY, AND ALSO AN RV.

THE ORIGINAL PART OF THE BUILDING WAS CONSTRUCTED IN 1946.

THERE HAVE BEEN THREE ADDITIONAL ADD-ONS DURING THAT TIME.

ALL YEAH, THERE HAVE BEEN THREE ADDITIONAL ADD-ONS DURING THAT TIME.

THIS WAS, THESE ARE PICTURES TAKEN FROM A SITE VISIT.

I HAVE THREE SLIDES THAT SHOW SOME OF OUR FINDINGS.

THIS FIRST ONE HERE ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE IS FROM THE SIDE OF THE HOUSE, WHICH YOU CAN SEE SOME FOUNDATIONAL DAMAGE.

UM, SO LOOK, LOOKING OVER TO THE RIGHT, YOU CAN SEE SOME POTENTIAL FIRE DAMAGE ALONG THE BACK OF THE HOUSE.

UH, AND FROM THIS WE CAN SAY THAT THE HOUSE, UM, ISN'T A, ISN'T A POOR CONDITION.

THIS LEFT HAND PHOTO IS ON THE NORTH END OF THE PROPERTY.

ALONG THE FENCE, UH, YOU CAN SEE TWO TYPES OF FENCES.

ONE IS A SIX FOOT WOODEN PRIVACY FENCE, WHICH IS PERMITTED BY OUR CODE, AND THEN ALSO A CHAIN LINK FENCE, UM, AROUND FOUR FEET TALL THAT IS NOT PERMITTED BY OUR CITY CODE.

AND ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE, YOU CAN SEE THE REST OF THAT FENCE TOWARDS THE BACK END OF THE PROPERTY, ALONG WITH ONE VERY LARGE TREE.

WE HAVE A COUPLE HAIR, A COUPLE POTENTIAL HERITAGE TREES ON THE PROPERTY.

AND WHEN WE SPOKE WITH THE APPLICANT, UM, WHO PLANS TO, WHO PLANS, UM, WHO HAS PLANS AFTER THE DEMOLITION, SHE HAS STATED THAT SHE WANTS TO KEEP THE TREES ON THE PROPERTY.

THESE LAST TWO PHOTOS SHOW OUR TWO ACCESSORY STRUCTURES.

ON THE LEFT, YOU CAN SEE ONE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE, AND ON OUR RIGHT IMAGE YOU CAN SEE THE RV THAT'S PARKED IN THE REAR YARD, ALONG WITH A GREENHOUSE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE ALONG WITH THE FENCE LOOKING TOWARDS THE PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH.

AFTER WE SENT RESPONSE, WE SENT OUT 27 NOTIFICATIONS, UM, THAT WERE SENT OUT TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE PROPERTY.

AND WE HAVE SENT, WE HAVE RECEIVED SEVEN WRITTEN RESPONSES IN FAVOR OF THE DEMOLITION.

OUR KEY FINDINGS FROM THIS IS THAT THIS PROPERTY IS NOT A HISTORIC LANDMARK AND IT DOES NOT HAVE ANY ARCHITECTURAL CULTURAL OR EDUCATIONAL VALUE BASED ON THIS.

AND WITH ALIGNMENT OF UDC, SECTION TWO 11, B 10 DEMOLITION OF HISTORIC STRUCTURES, STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE HISTORIC LANDMARK COMMISSION APPROVE A DE A DEMOLITION PERMIT REQUEST AT THREE 10 WEST ISON.

BUT THE FOLLOWING STIPULATIONS, ONE THAT THE CHAIN LINK FENCE ON THE NORTH, ON THE NORTH SIDE YARD OF THE PROPERTY BE REMOVED AS PART OF THE DEMOLITION TO BRING THAT FENCE INTO COMPLIANCE WITH UDC.

AND WITH THAT, I GIVE MY TIME BACK TO THE COMMISSION.

OKAY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

UM, DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS AT THIS TIME THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ABOUT THE PROPERTY? OKAY, THAT PART IS CLOSED AS WELL.

COMMISSIONERS, DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS ABOUT THE STRUCTURES OR, I DON'T THINK ANY OF, WAS ANY OF US HERE AT THE SITE VISIT? I DON'T THINK ANY OF US.

SHE SAID NO AND NONE OF US WERE ABLE TO MAKE IT.

SO.

OKAY.

I JUST BY PICTURE WISE, IF WE HAD ANYTHING, DID THE CITY RECEIVE ANY LETTERS, UH, AGAINST DEMOLITION?

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I DON'T, I MEAN, JUST FROM THE EX DID ANYBODY GET TO GO SEE INSIDE OR WAS IT JUST ALL OUTSIDE ON THE SITE VISIT THAT Y'ALL DID? UH, THE SITE VISIT THAT WE DID WAS PURELY ON THE EXTERIOR FOR THE PROPERTY.

AND FROM THE PICTURES IN EXTERIOR, I DON'T SEE ANYTHING THAT'S HISTORICAL THAT WE NEED TO KEEP, UNLESS Y'ALL SEEN SOMETHING THAT I DON'T SEE.

MADAM CHAIRWOMAN, I, UH, MOVE TO APPROVE THE REQUEST FOR A DEMOLITION PERMIT FOR THE STRUCTURES LOCATED AT THREE 10 WEST TYSON STREET.

OKAY.

UM, I HAVE A MOTION BY, UH, COMMISSIONER NICHOLS FOR FIRST AND SECOND BY HANS .

UM, IF WE ALL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO VOTE, THE DEMOLITION REQUEST HAS BEEN APPROVED.

SO THE NEXT

[6.B. Consider a certificate of appropriateness for a sign located at 701 S. Main Street. (BioworX)]

CONSIDER, CONSIDER A, UH, CONSIDER A CERTIFICATE FOR PROGRAM IS FOR THE SIGN LOCATED AT 7 0 1 SOUTH MAIN STREET.

ALRIGHT, LET SEE IF I CAN OPEN THIS ONE AS WELL.

CAN HELP YOU.

RIGHT.

SO THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 7 0 1 SOUTH MAIN STREET.

THE APPLICANT IS BERNIE BIOWORKS.

THE REQUEST IS A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR A SIGN ON THE PROPERTY.

AND THE REASON THIS COMES BEFORE YOU IS BECAUSE THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED INSIDE OF THE HISTORIC DISTRICT.

THIS IS FROM THE STREET VIEW OFF OF MAIN STREET.

LOOKING AT THE PROPERTY, THE ZONING IS C TWO TRANSITIONAL COMMERCIAL.

THE USE FOR BIOWORKS BERNIE, IS THAT THEY WANT TO USE A WELLNESS SPA, WHICH IS PERMITTED UNDER C TWO.

THE HISTORIC STATUS FOR THE STRUCTURE, JUST TO GIVE THIS FOR A QUICK MOMENT, IS THAT IS A, IT IS A LOW CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE THAT WAS ORIGINALLY CONSTRUCTED IN 1866.

ALTHOUGH THIS PERMIT IS MOSTLY FOR THE SIGN THAT YOU GUYS CAN SEE ON THE PROPERTY.

THE PROPOSED SIGN FOR FOR BERNIE BIOWORKS IS A GREEN AND WHITE FONT WITH A BLACK BACKGROUND.

IT USES A SANER AND CALLIGRAPHY FONT.

AND IT IS INTERNALLY, IT IS INTERNALLY ILLUMINATED.

THE ANALYSIS SUMMARY IS THAT THE SIGN MEETS DOES MEET ALL UDC REQUIREMENTS AND MEETS THE FOLLOWING HISTORIC GUIDELINES THAT IT USES LESS FOUR OR LESS COLORS AND USES A MAXIMUM OF TWO FONTS.

HOWEVER, IT DOES NOT MEET THE HISTORIC DISTRICT GUIDELINE FOR INTERNAL ILLUMINATION.

IT IS A LEGALLY NON-CONFORMING SIGN.

HOWEVER, THE SIGN DOES MEET CURRENT DARK SKY REGULATIONS.

AND BECAUSE IT IS LOCATED AT THE SOUTHERN EDGE OF THE DOWNTOWN CORE, WE DO BELIEVE THAT WE CAN USE SOME FLEXIBILITY IN OUR APPLICATION OF THE HISTORIC DISTRICT GUIDELINES BECAUSE OF THAT.

UH, BASED ON ITS ALIGNMENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE MASTER PLAN, THE UDC CHAPTER NINE AND THE INTENT OF THE HISTORIC DISTRICT DESIGN GUIDELINES, STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE HISTORIC LANDMARK COMMISSION APPROVE A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR THE SIGN LOCATED AT 7 0 1 SOUTH MAIN STREET.

AND WITH THAT, ARE YOU MORE TIME BACK TO THE COMMISSION? UM, IS THE APPLICANT HERE FOR, UH, THE SIGN? IF YOU'D LIKE TO COME UP AND YOU CAN TELL US, UM, ABOUT YOUR SIGN AND ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT? SURE.

UM, IT'S, IT'S, WE'RE NOT REALLY MAKING ANY CHANGES.

THE INTERNAL ILLUMINATION ILLUMINATION IS ALREADY THERE, SO WE'RE NOT ADDING ANYTHING.

WE'RE JUST LITERALLY GOING TO CHANGE OUT THE SIGN ITSELF.

IT'S REALLY A SIMPLE PROCESS.

WE'RE NOT EXPANDING THE SIZE, SCOPE OR ANYTHING.

WE'RE JUST GONNA STICK TO WHAT'S HISTORICALLY BEEN THERE AND LEAVE IT AT THAT.

UNLESS YOU HAVE A SUGGESTION.

SO I THINK WITH THE QUESTION I HAVE WITH THE ILLUMINATION, SO PRETTY MUCH JUST THE GREEN AND WHITE WILL BE ILLUMINATED AS BLACK.

YES.

SO MUCH.

MAY YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR HIM THERE? I DON'T REMEMBER EVER SEEING THE WHISKERS PETS AND WHISKERS.

UH, IT WAS LIT.

IT WAS LIT.

MM-HMM .

THERE, THERE'S ACTUALLY SEVERAL INTERNALLY LIT SIGNS ON MAIN STREET.

SO IT WAS LIT.

OKAY.

IT'S JUST NOT VERY BRIGHT OR WASN'T VERY NO, IT'S, IT'S DIM.

AND THEN THIS WILL BE EVEN LESS THAN WE'RE PITCHING FOR SCREW HEAD.

OKAY.

I THINK, DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

GOOD LUCK.

I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE CAN, THAT WE APPROVE THE CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR THE SIGN LOCATED AT 7 0 1

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SO WE HAVE, DO WE HAVE A SECOND LITTLE BUTTON'S GRAYED OUT FOR ME? I DON'T IF IT'S FOR ANYONE ELSE.

I CAN'T, IT'S NOT THERE.

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YOU CAN'T SECOND IT, BUT I SECOND IT VERBALLY.

OKAY.

SO WE HAVE A FIRST BY COMMISSIONER MINES AND A SECOND.

UM, ALL IN FAVOR? YES WE DO.

AYE AYE.

AYE.

OKAY.

NEW SIGN IS APPROVED.

THANK YOU.

MOVE ON TO, UM, THE NEXT THREE

[6.C. Consider a certificate of appropriateness for a new sign (1 of 3) located at 101 S. Main Street, Suite C. (Mainz Meat Market)]

[6.D. Consider a certificate of appropriateness for a new sign (2 of 3) located at 101 S. Main Street, Suite C. (Mainz Meat Market)]

[6.E. Consider a certificate of appropriateness for a new sign (3 of 3) located at 101 S. Main Street, Suite C. (Mainz Meat Market)]

AND THEN I'M JUST GONNA SAY 'EM ALL THREE TOGETHER.

MM-HMM .

2 0 2 5 DASH 2 48 AND 2 0 2 5 DASH 2 49.

THEREFORE, CONSIDER A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR A NEW SLANG LOCATED AT 1 0 1 SOUTH MAIN STREET FOR THE MINES MEAT MARKET.

UM, THAT'S GONNA BE TABLED FOR NEXT MONTH 'CAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH COMMISSIONERS TO VOTE ON THAT AT THIS TIME.

SO TO OUR NEXT

[6.F. Consider a certificate of appropriateness for a building permit for a rear addition, exterior update(s), and new structure(s) located at 265 N Main Street. (Hill & Bach Cellars).]

IT'S CONSIDER A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR A BUILDING PERMIT AT THE REAR.

ADDITION, EXTERIOR UPDATES AND NEW STRUCTURES LOCATED AT 2 6 5 NORTH MAIN STREET.

GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS.

FRANKIE LINDER, CITY OF BURN PLANNING DEPARTMENT.

UH, SO THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 2 65 NORTH MAIN STREET.

UM, THE APPLICANT IS FRANK VALEZ, UH, FROM SA PARTNERSHIP ARCHITECTS ON BEHALF OF THE OWNER, WHICH IS FLYING PIGS ENTERPRISES, LLC.

AND THE REQUEST IS FOR A COA FOR A BUILDING PERMIT.

SO THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED WITHIN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT.

IT'S ALSO CONSIDERED A HIGH CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE.

UM, OH, THAT IS INCORRECT.

IT WAS ACTUALLY CONSTRUCTED IN 1870.

IT IS THE TEXAS GERMAN VERNACULAR.

HERE'S A STREET VIEW OF IT.

IT IS, I'M GONNA SAY THIS WRONG, BUT THE STEIN HEN LUCKENBACH HOUSE IS THE NAME OF IT.

UM, IT IS, AS I SAID, A HIGH CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE.

AND, UH, ORIGINALLY CONSTRUCTED IN 1870.

THERE HAS BEEN SEVERAL ADDITIONS ON THE MAIN PROPERTY ITSELF, AS WELL AS SOME, UM, ACCESSORY STRUCTURES THAT HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED OVER THE YEARS.

SO TONIGHT THE SCOPE OF THEIR PROJECT, UH, IS TO REMOVE A SMALL ADDITION AT THE REAR OF THE MAIN STRUCTURE, UM, AND RECONSTRUCT A LARGER ADDITION IN ITS PLACE.

THEY'RE ALSO PROPOSING TO CONSTRUCT THREE NEW DECKS COVERED AND UNCOVERED.

UH, REPLACE SLASH AND INSTALL 23 NEW WINDOWS, UM, RE SIDE THE EXISTING ACCESSORY STRUCTURE STRUCTURES AND THE NEW ADDITION.

UM, AND PAINTING BOTH, EXCUSE ME, ALL THREE STRUCTURES AS WELL, AND CONSTRUCT A NEW OUTDOOR FIREPLACE.

SO THAT'S A LOT.

SO WE'RE GONNA WALK THROUGH IT .

ALL RIGHT.

SO FIRST, HERE ARE SOME SITE PHOTOS.

UM, SO YOU CAN SEE SOME WORK HAS ALREADY BEEN DONE, UM, PRIOR TO APPROVAL BY THIS BOARD.

UM, AND SO WE ARE HERE TONIGHT TO MAKE SURE THEY GET YOUR APPROVAL BEFORE THEY CONTINUE WITH THE PROJECT.

HERE'S THE SIDE VIEW, AND YOU CAN SEE THE DIFFERENT, UM, ADDITIONS THAT HAPPEN.

THIS IS ACTUALLY THE ORIGINAL STRUCTURE THROUGH HERE, AND THESE WERE ADD-ONS, UH, SOMETIME BETWEEN 1870 AND 1910.

AND THEN IN THE REAR, THIS IS THE, UH, SMALL REAR ADDITION THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING TO DEMOLISH.

HERE IS ONE OF THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURES.

HERE'S THE OTHER SIDE OF THE MAIN PARCEL FROM THE, UH, STREET FRONTAGE.

IT CONTINUES BACK HERE.

AND THIS IS THE SECONDARY, UH, THE SECOND ACCESSORY STRUCTURE.

AND HERE IS A REAR VIEW WHERE YOU CAN SEE BOTH ACCESSORY STRUCTURES AND THE MAIN, AND YOU CAN, UM, SEE HOW THE SMALL ADDITION AT THE REAR IS A DIFFERENT SIZE, A DIFFERENT ROOF LINE.

UM, VERY CLEARLY AN ADD-ON AT THE END.

AND THIS IS JUST A CLOSEUP OF THE EXISTING LIMESTONE.

ALL RIGHT, HERE IS OUR FLOOR PLAN.

THIS IS A LOT.

WE ALSO HAVE SOME, SOME, SOME GREAT, UH, ELEVATION RENDERINGS WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT AS WELL.

TO HELP ORIENT YOU, RIGHT HERE IS MAIN STREET.

THIS IS THE FRONT OF THE EXISTING MAIN STRUCTURE.

DOWN HERE IS THE GARAGE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE.

AND THIS IS THE OTHER ACCESSORY STRUCTURE.

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AND THIS ORANGE OUTLINE IS NEW INTERIOR SPACE.

SO THIS WOULD BE THE NEW ADDITION AT THE REAR OF THE MAIN STRUCTURE.

UH, THIS WOULD BE A DECK, PART OF IT COVERED, PART OF IT UNCOVERED.

THIS WOULD BE ANOTHER DECK COVERED AND UNCOVERED.

AND THIS WOULD ALSO BE A NEW OPEN DECK, AS WELL AS SOME WALKWAYS AND TRELLIS, UM, FOR THE PARKING LOT.

THIS IS JUST ANOTHER WAY TO HIGHLIGHT, UM, THE PORTION OF THE BUILDING THEY'RE REQUESTING TO, TO DEMOLISH.

IT'S JUST THIS REAR STRUCTURE HERE, NOT THE REST OF IT.

AND HERE ARE OUR RENDERINGS.

SO THIS IS LOOKING AT IT STRAIGHT ON FROM MAIN STREET.

YOU CAN SEE THE EXISTING STRUCTURE.

THE FRONT FACADE WILL NOT BE CHANGING.

UM, UH, YOU CAN SEE RIGHT HERE IS THE SIDE PORCH THAT THEY ARE PROPOSING DECK, EXCUSE ME.

UH, IT, IT WILL NOT BE ATTACHED TO THE MAIN STRUCTURE, SO IT WOULDN'T BE AFFECTING IT.

THEY ARE ALSO PROPOSING TO KEEP THE TREE HERE, UM, AND, AND LET IT CAST IT SHADE ON THIS COURTYARD THAT THEY'RE CREATING.

HERE'S THE SIDEWAYS AGAIN, YOU CAN SEE THE NEW DECK ON THE SIDE.

THE NEW FIREPLACE, OUTDOOR FIREPLACE COVERED PATIO ON THE SIDE.

NOW THE SIDING ON THIS RENDERING IS WHITE, HOWEVER, THAT'S NOT THE COLOR THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING.

WE'LL HAVE THE COLOR SAMPLES IN A MINUTE.

HERE IS FROM THE REAR.

THIS STRUCTURE RIGHT HERE WOULD BE THE NEW ADDITION.

AND THIS WOULD BE THE NEW, UH, COVERED AND UNCOVERED BACK DECK.

UH, ONE OF THE THINGS, THE ARCHITECT AND OWNER WHO ARE HERE TONIGHT, UM, AND ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO EXPLAINING THIS PROJECT TO YOU EVEN MORE THOROUGHLY.

BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THEY'RE, UM, PROUD OF IS TRYING TO MIMIC THE ORIGINAL, UM, ROOF LINE TO MAKE IT LOOK MORE INTERESTING AND TO RESPECT THE ORIGINAL ARCHITECTURE.

AND HERE IS THE REAR VIEW WHERE YOU CAN SEE ALL THREE STRUCTURES.

AND HERE ARE THE COLOR SAMPLES.

SO THIS IS THE SAMPLE THAT WAS PROVIDED IN YOUR PACKET.

AND I KNOW SOMETIMES THE, UH, SCREENS MAKE THINGS A LOOK A LITTLE DIFFERENT.

SO THESE ARE SOME SCREEN, UM, CLIPS I TOOK OFF OF SHERMAN WILLIAMS. UH, SO THE MAIN SIDING COLOR WILL BE THIS ROYCROFT BRASS.

THE, UH, DOOR AND WINDOW TRIM WOULD BE THE BLACK FOX, THE WOOD, EXCUSE ME, WOOD COLUMNS AND TRELLIS AND RAILINGS WOULD BE THE, UH, ROOKWOOD DARK BROWN.

AND THE ENTRY DOORS WOULD BE THE ROOKWOOD RED.

THE STAIN FOR THE DECKS WOULD BE THIS MOUNTAIN ASH, AND IT WOULD BE A GALVANIZED ROOF.

SO HERE'S A PHOTO OF THE EXISTING WINDOWS.

AS YOU CAN SEE, THEY'RE A LATE 19 HUNDREDS STYLE WINDOW WITH, UH, THE ASBESTOS CAULKING.

UM, THEY'RE PROPOSING TO UPDATE, UM, MANY OF THE WINDOWS AND THE NEW WINDOWS INTO A TWO OVER TWO, UM, WHICH IS MORE APPROPRIATE FOR THE HISTORIC STRUCTURE.

THIS IS A SAMPLE OF THE TYPE OF OUTDOOR FIREPLACE THAT THEY'RE LOOKING TO DO.

SO HERE'S A BREAKDOWN OF THE DIFFERENT REVIEW CRITERIA.

UM, IS IT APPROPRIATE FOR, UH, PUBLIC VISIBILITY FOR EXTERIOR FEATURES? THE FRONT ELEVATION OF THE PRIMARY STRUCTURE WILL NOT BE ALTERED, UM, THAT WILL BE MAINTAINED.

THE PROPOSED DECK ALONG THE NORTHERN ELEVATION WOULD BE FREESTANDING AND NOT STRUCTURALLY TIED TO THE HISTORIC STRUCTURE.

DESIGN MATERIALS INCOMPATIBILITY WITH THE SURROUNDING CONTEXT.

ALL THE SIDING AND STONE WORK WILL MATCH THE EXISTING MATERIALS.

THE 23 WINDOWS THAT WILL BE INSTALLED SLASH REPLACED WILL BE MORE HIS HISTORICALLY APPROPRIATELY DESIGNED.

AND THE UPDATED PAINT SCHEME ALIGNS WITH THE HISTORIC DISTRICT GUIDELINES.

UM, THIS BUILDING IS CONSIDERED A HIGH CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE.

SO THE HISTORIC, UH, DISTRICT GUIDELINES SHOULD BE APPLIED AS PRESENTED.

WE DO FEEL THIS MEETS THOSE.

UH, NORTH OF THE PROPERTY IS A, UM, A STRUCTURE OF CLASSICAL COMMERCIAL STOREFRONT CONSTRUCTED IN CIRCA 1960.

THAT'S THE PET SHOP, UM, UH, TO THE

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IT'S ACTUALLY UNDEVELOPED AREA ACROSS THE STREET IS VISIT BERNIE.

AND SO IT IS SIMILAR.

IT'S WITH THE LIMESTONE FACADE AND FRONT PORCH.

SIMILAR TO THIS PROJECT, UH, THE VALUE OF THE HISTORIC DISTRICT OR LANDMARK AS AN AREA OR PRESERVATION OF HISTORIC DISTRICT OR LANDMARK VALUE.

SO THIS PROJECT INVOLVES MINOR CHANGES TO THE FRONT FACADE.

UM, SOME OF THE SIGNIFICANT CHANGE INCLUDES REMOVING THAT MOST RECENT SMALL REAR ADDITION AND CONSTRUCTING A LARGER ONE AS WELL AS THE, UM, ATTACHED DECK IN THE REAR.

UH, THE NEW ADDITION WILL REFLECT THE SHAPE AND THE ROOF LINE OF THE EXISTING STRUCTURE.

SO WE FEEL THE HISTORIC VALUE OF THE STRUCTURE WILL NOT BE DIMINISHED BY THIS CHANGE.

UH, KEY FINDINGS IS THAT THE PROPOSED PROJECT COMPLIES WITH THE UDC SECTION TWO 11 AND THREE 11, AND THE PROPOSED PROJECT MEETS THE HISTORIC DISTRICT GUIDELINES.

UH, SO STAFF FINDS THAT BECAUSE OF THIS, IT IS REVIEW, SORRY, EXCUSE ME, , THAT THE PROPOSED PROJECT IS CONSISTENT WITH REVIEW CRITERIA AND GUIDELINES OUTLINED IN SECTION TWO 11 AND THREE 11 OF THE UDC STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE HISTORIC LANDMARK COMMISSION APPROVE THE REQUESTED CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR BUILDING PER PERMIT FOR THE REAR EDITION EXTERIOR UPDATES AND NEW STRUCTURE LOCATED AT 2 65 NORTH MAIN STREET.

AND AS I MENTIONED THE, UM, THE ARCHITECT AND THE OWNER HERE TONIGHT.

AND THEY WOULD LOVE TO TALK TO YOU.

THANK YOU, FRANKIE.

YOU'RE VERY WELCOME.

I SEE YOU WELCOME.

IF YOU CAN STATE YOUR NAME FOR RECORDS, PLEASE.

UH, GOOD EVENING, UH, COMMISSION.

AND, AND MADAM UH, CHAIR.

UH, MY NAME IS FRANK VALEZ.

I'M A BERNIE RESIDENT.

UM, MOVED HERE, UM, IN 2000, MOVED THE FAMILY.

UM, I'M THE PRESIDENT AND ARCHITECT OWNER OF SA PARTNERSHIP.

UM, I'VE DONE SEVERAL PROJECTS IN BERNIE.

UM, AND, UH, EVERYONE THAT I CONTINUE TO DO, I'M ALWAYS LOOK BEING VERY CONSIDERATE AND MAKING SURE IT STAYS IN THE FABRIC OF OUR, OUR CITY AND OUR TOWN AND THE, AND THE, AND THE COUNTY.

UM, I WANNA GO THROUGH THE, THE PRESENTATION.

FRANKIE BASICALLY DID MY JOB, SO , I DON'T HAVE TO DO MUCH MORE.

UH, AND THEN I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE YOU TO MR. RICHARD LEE, THE OWNER.

HE WANTS TO TALK ABOUT HIS, HIS CONCEPT AND WHAT HE WANTS TO DO FOR, UH, MAIN STREET, BERNIE.

UM, AS FRANKIE HAD MENTIONED, UH, THE OBJECTIVE HERE FOR MY CLIENT AND, UM, AND MY AND AND MY FIRM, WE WANTED TO CELEBRATE THE HISTORY OF THE LUCKENBACH FAMILY.

OBVIOUSLY AS, AS FRANKIE MENTIONED, RUDOLPH, THE GERMAN SETTLER RUDOLPH.

UH, KANGEN WAS THE ORIGINAL BUILDER.

UM, HE'S, UH, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR, HE'S DONE OTHER TWO HISTORIC BUILDINGS IN TOWN.

THE MANSION THAT USED TO BE THAT'S UP THERE ON, UH, SOUTH MAINE ACROSS THE RIVER.

AND THEN THE OTHER HISTORIC TWO STORY, UM, UH, GERMAN, TEXAS, UM, GREEK REVIVAL ARCHITECTURE.

IT'S A ARCHED WINDOWS.

UM, I FORGET THE ADDRESS ON THAT STREET, BUT, SO THIS IS HIS OTHER THIRD STRUCTURE ON MAIN STREET.

AND SO, UM, WE WANTED TO CELEBRATE THE ORIGINAL HOUSE.

UM, OBVIOUSLY THE CURRENT ROOFING HAS, UM, LEMME SEE.

I GUESS CAN I CAN MOVE THIS, FRANKIE, THERE WE GO.

IF I GO BACK TO THE ORIGINAL PHOTOGRAPHS, THE REASON WHY RIGHT HERE YOU COULD KIND OF SEE THESE TWO FRONT WINDOWS.

THESE EXISTING, THESE TWO WINDOWS WERE THE ONLY TWO WINDOWS THAT DIDN'T HAVE ASBESTOS PUTTY.

AND SO WE HAD TO REMOVE PRIOR TO DOING ANY CONSTRUCTION, OBVIOUSLY OUR INTENT WAS TO, TO PRESENT BEFORE YOU, PRIOR TO HAVING THE ASBESTOS REMOVED.

BUT BECAUSE OF SCHEDULE, WE, WE HAD TO GET OUR ASBESTOS REMOVED AT THE TIME BEFORE WE COULD GET ON THE COMMISSION AGENDA.

BUT WE WEREN'T TRYING TO MOVE ANYTHING THAT WAS OF HISTORIC NATURE.

AS, AS FRANKIE HAD MENTIONED, THESE ARE 1950S, UM, ALUMINUM WINDOWS.

THEY OBVIOUSLY DON'T MATCH THE TWO OVER TWO THAT WERE GONNA REPLACE WITH ANDERSON.

AND, UM, AND THEN THE OTHER SIGHTING THAT WAS REMOVED HERE FROM THE ADDITION THAT WE'RE GONNA REMOVE.

BUT THE OTHER SIGHTING OF THE ANCILLARY BUILDINGS WERE ALL ASBESTOS SHINGLES THAT WERE SOMEWHERE INSTALLED IN THE SIXTIES, MAYBE SEVENTIES.

SO ALL OF THAT HAS BEEN REMOVED.

AND NOW THAT WE HAVE A VERY CLEAN SITE, UM, THE ORIGINAL STONE IS IN GREAT SHAPE, UH, INSIDE AND AND OUT.

AND WE'RE GONNA CELEBRATE THAT.

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UM, AS FRANKIE HAD MENTIONED, THE PECAN TREE THAT SITS HERE, UM, IS GONNA BE PROTECTED.

UM, MR. LEE HAS HAD HIS ARBORIST, UM, STUDY THE HEALTH OF THAT TREE AND, AND WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO MONITOR THAT.

UH, THE REASON FOR OUR SURROUNDING DECKS, UM, NOT HAVING ANY ROOF STRUCTURE IS BECAUSE WE DIDN'T WANT TO IMPEDE AND COVER UP THE ORIGINAL ARCHITECTURE OF THE LOOKIN BCH HOUSE.

AND SO THE ONLY STRUCTURES THAT WE'RE PUTTING OVER DECK IS THIS, THIS BUILDING IS NOT HISTORIC.

UM, BUT WE'RE PUTTING A SHADED STRUCTURE HERE AND IN THE BACK.

AND THEN, AS FRANKIE HAD MENTIONED, UM, OUR ADDITION, AND I'LL GO TO OUR RENDERING ON THIS.

AS YOU COULD SEE, THERE'S A, THERE'S A LITTLE SHED ROOF OFF THE FRONT PORCH AND, AND THEN THERE'S THE GABLE THAT RUNS PARALLEL TO MAIN STREET WITH THE RIDGE GOING NORTH AND SOUTH.

THE, THE, THE LARGER ROOF IS HEADING RIDGE GOES EAST AND WEST.

AND THEN THIS IS THE LITTLE ADDITION THAT, UH, WE'RE REMOVING AND PUTTING IN THE SAME VOLUME OF THIS SPACE IS WHAT WE'RE GONNA CREATE HERE.

SO LET ME GO TO THAT SLIDE THERE.

SO YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THE LOOKING B HOUSE HERE, THE ORIGINAL GABLE ROOF, AND THEN WE'RE REPLICATING THAT IN THE BACK WITH THE NEW ADDITION SO THAT WE HAVE THIS BALANCE AND IT HELPS FRAME IN THE COURTYARD FOR, UM, MR. LEE'S, UH, WINE TASTING.

AND THEN THIS WE'RE, UM, FRANKIE DID WE, DID YOU HAVE THE PICTURE IN HERE OF THE SIDING THAT WE WERE, WE'RE KEEPING? UH, IT SHOULD BE.

UH, I DON'T, IT WAS A, I SENT YOU ONE CLOSEUP, BUT MAYBE IT DIDN'T GET IN HERE.

IT'S A, THERE IS, UM, THE ADDITION THAT WE'RE KEEPING THE, UH, HOUSE, THERE IS A, UM, SHIPLAP SIDING.

AND THAT SHIPLAP SIDING IS WHAT WE'RE GONNA PAINT THE ROYCROFT CR BRASS.

AND IT'S GONNA BE VERY SIMILAR TO THIS.

THIS PICTURE WAS TO DEPICT THE TWO OVER TWO WITH A TRUE DIVIDED LIGHT, IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO USE FOR, UH, ANDERSON WINDOWS.

THEY'RE THE ONLY FEW WINDOW REPLACEMENT, UM, FOR HISTORIC STRUCTURES THAT HAVE A TRUE DIVIDED LIGHT.

SO THAT PIECE SITS OUTSIDE THE GLASS AND NOT INSIDE THE GLASS.

SO THIS WINDOW WILL NOW BE PUT IN PLACE, WHICH WOULD BE THE ORIGINAL WINDOWS, UM, UH, PROPORTION AND, UH, ELEMENT.

BUT HERE'S SOME SHIPLAP SIDING THAT I TOOK FOR THIS WINDOW PICTURE.

THIS IS VERY MUCH WHAT EXISTS AND WASN'T REMOVED.

IT'S, IT'S, UH, REGULAR WOOD THAT'S GONNA BE PAINTED.

AND WE'RE GONNA PUT THAT IN ALL OUR ADDITION OF THE REMAINING THIS STRUCTURE, THE STRUCTURES IN THE BACK, THIS ANCILLARY BUILDING IS GONNA HAVE THAT SHIPLAP SIDING.

SO THE ONLY THING THAT'S GONNA BE NEW LIMESTONE IS GONNA BE THE, THE TWO FIREPLACES THAT WE'RE ADDING.

AND WE'RE GONNA MATCH, UH, THE COLOR AND THE STYLE OF, UH, MASONRY WORK OF THE LOOKING BUCK HOUSE.

SO, UM, UH, THEN THE OTHER THING THAT WE PROBABLY WANT TO TALK ABOUT IS OBVIOUSLY FOR SOUND AND THE TRAFFIC ALONG MAIN STREET, AND TO HAVE PEOPLE FEEL COMFORTABLE BY MOVING TRAFFIC AS WE'RE PUTTING IN, UM, UH, A LIMESTONE WALL WITH A, WITH A, YOU KNOW, IRON PICKETS ALONG THE TOP THAT WILL, UM, AND THEN CELEBRATE THE ENTRANCE HERE.

UH, AND THEN OBVIOUSLY WE WILL BE BACK, THERE'S AN EXISTING SIGN THAT WILL PRESENT TO THE COMMISSION FOR A SIGNAGE APPROVAL LATER.

SO I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

AND THEN, UM, ANYTHING THAT Y'ALL MAY HAVE, MR. VALDEZ, EXCUSE ME, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR, UH, THE RENDERINGS THAT YOU PROVIDE.

YOU HAVE SO MUCH DETAIL AND IT'S FANTASTIC.

WE, WE REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.

OH, MY PLEASURE.

I MEAN, WHAT Y'ALL DO FOR THE COMMUNITY, WE GOTTA GIVE YOU THE TOOLS TO BE ABLE TO MAKE A DECISION.

SO IT'S OUR PLEASURE AND PLUS I NEED TO GIVE THE TOOLS TO MY CLIENTS TO VISUALIZE THE SAME.

YEAH.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

I, I DO HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS.

OKAY.

AND THEY'RE JUST SORT OF SOME RANDOM THOUGHTS.

UM, THE NEW ADDITION MATERIAL, YOU SAID THAT'S GONNA BE SHIPLAP OR IS IT GONNA MATCH LIKE THAT THREE CLAM? YES, IT'S GONNA MATCH THE, THE SHIPLAP THAT'S THERE.

UM, UM, THERE, THERE IS, IF YOU WERE TO GO OUT TO THE SITE, AND AS A MATTER OF FACT, I THINK SOME OF THE OLD PHOTOGRAPHS HAVE, YES, IT'S RIGHT.

OH YEAH, IT'S HARD TO SEE IT RIGHT HERE, BUT THAT'S IT.

IT'S THIS AR THIS ONE'S A LITTLE EASIER.

THERE IT IS.

OKAY.

YEAH.

BUT WE ARE GONNA MATCH, IT'S

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WELL, THAT, THAT'S A DIFFERENT BUILDING.

I, I, OH, IT IS.

I NEEDED TO, I COULDN'T FIND A TWO OVER TWO NEARBY.

UM, AND SO I ACTUALLY WENT TO, UH, UH, THE KINDLE AND I TOOK THAT PICTURE OFF THE CHAPEL .

THIS IS THE CHAPEL, UH, AT, AT THE KINDLE.

AND SO, UH, IT'S GONNA BE VERY SIMILAR TO THIS.

I THINK OUR SHIPLAP MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT HALF INCH IN, IN, IN DEBT LENGTH LONGER, BUT IT'S, WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA MATCH IT UP.

UM, UH, RUSSELL TISDALE'S HERE, OUR CONTRACTOR, TISDALE CONSTRUCTION, HE'S GOING TO MATCH THAT.

AND WE'RE, WE'LL OBVIOUSLY GET A SAMPLE BEFORE WE MAKE ANY PURCHASE AND MAKE SURE THAT WE GET VERY CLOSE TO THAT.

AND THEN I, I TOOK THE PICTURE OF THE LIMESTONE BEFORE I PLACED ALL THESE PICTURES HERE.

THESE ARE PART OF SHERWIN WILLIAMS COLOR PALETTE THAT IS HISTORIC.

AND SO WE, WE WENT TO FIND OUR COLORS BASED ON THE SHERWIN WILLIAMS HISTORIC PALETTE.

FANTASTIC.

AND THE EXISTING MATERIAL FOR THE ROOF IS, UH, ASPHALT SHINGLES? CORRECT.

CURRENTLY IT'S ASPHALT, AS YOU CAN SEE IN THIS AERIAL PHOTOGRAPH.

AND IT, IT'S, IT'S TAKEN QUITE A FEW HITS FROM OUR LAST HAIL STORM.

SO IT'S DUE FOR A NEW ROOF JUST FROM A FUNCTION STANDPOINT.

BUT, UM, MR. LEE IS WILLING TO MAKE THE INVESTMENT AND BRING IT IN A STANDING SCENE, GALVANIZED ROOF.

OKAY.

TO BE MORE IN LINE WITH THE GERMAN TEXAS ARCHITECTURE.

AND THAT'LL JUST BE YOUR TRADITIONAL GLOOM GAL LOOM.

YEAH, NO COLOR.

IT'LL BE WHAT WAS, WHAT WAS ONLY AVAILABLE BACK THEN IN 18 80, 70, AND 1883.

GOTCHA.

UM, MY NEXT QUESTION IS FOR THE FENCE.

AND I KNOW YOU TOUCHED ON THE STONE ON THE FRONT SIDEWALK, RIGHT? RIGHT HERE.

AND THEN THE RAIL FOR YOUR SIDE PROPERTY OR THE SIDE PROPERTY LINE? YEAH, SO THERE'S A, THERE IS AN INGRESS EASEMENT RIGHT HERE WHERE I'M PUSHING THE CURSOR THROUGH.

OBVIOUSLY WE DIDN'T, WE DIDN'T PHOTOSHOP IN THE, THE PET SHOP, UM, BUILDING HERE.

IT'S NOT SITTING IN A PRAIRIE RIGHT NOW.

WE DIDN'T DO THAT , BUT, UM, THERE IS, YEAH, WE'RE SPENDING THE MONEY ON THE LIMESTONE HERE, JUST FROM A SOUND STANDPOINT.

BUT WE'RE TAKING THE SAME ROD IRON DESIGN AND CARRYING IT THROUGH ON THIS SIDE, ON, ON THIS, ON EITHER SIDE OF THE, UH, OUTDOOR FIREPLACE.

OKAY.

SO YOUR, YOUR FRONT FENCE, THE STONE IS, IS GONNA BE ALL NEW CONSTRUCTION? THERE'S NO EXISTING, THERE'S NO EXISTING, IF YOU COULD SEE RIGHT HERE, WE DON'T HAVE ANY GOTCHA.

BUT WE'RE GONNA BE RIGHT AT THE PROPERTY LINE, RIGHT AT THE SIDEWALK LINE.

VERY SIMILAR.

I THINK THE NEIGHBORING, UH, TO THE SOUTH OF US HAS THE SAME HEIGHT, UM, FRONT WALL.

OKAY.

MM-HMM .

A LOT OF IT'S BRICK, BUT WE DO HAVE SOME STONE THAT'S RIGHT.

AND THE VISITOR CENTER HAS THE SAME ACROSS THE STREET.

AND WILL THAT STONE FENCE, WILL IT HAVE THE WHITE CAPSTONES THAT ARE SHOWN IN YOUR DRAWING? YES, WE'RE GONNA HAVE, WE'RE GONNA HAVE THE CAP.

LET ME GO BACK TO THE, THERE IS, WELL, IT'S GONNA BE INSTEAD OF WHITE, I THINK IT'S GONNA BE MORE OF A CREAM.

WE JUST ACCENTUATED IT WITH A WHITE SO THAT WE COULD SEE IT OKAY.

IN THE RENDERING.

BUT IT'S GONNA BE SISTER DALE CREAM CAPSTONE.

IT WON'T BE A WHITE.

OKAY.

AND DO YOU HAVE ANY DETAIL ON THE IRON WORK THAT'S GONNA BE ON THE CAPSTONE? WELL, IT, WE DON'T HAVE, WE HAVEN'T DESIGNED THAT IN FULL OTHER THAN WE'RE GONNA SEE WHAT'S AVAILABLE ON THE MARKET WITHOUT CREATING ANYTHING CUSTOM FOR COST PURPOSES.

BUT, UM, WHAT I COULD DO IS SUBMIT TO FRANKIE AS WE MAKE THAT SELECTION, YOU KNOW, PRIOR TO CONSTRUCTION, WE COULD SUBMIT WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE.

OKAY.

AND THEN BACK TO THE, THE SIDE, UM, THERE'S ANOTHER PICTURE THAT YOU HAD.

YEAH.

THE SPLIT RAIL FENCE IS, IS THAT THE, SO YEAH, THIS IS THE FILE THAT YOU'RE GONNA HAVE THERE.

WELL, WE'RE, WE'RE THINKING ABOUT THAT, YES.

BECAUSE AGAIN, THIS, THIS IS, THIS IS MORE OF A GRAVEL SITE.

UM, WE, I DON'T KNOW WHY I, I SHOULD HAVE MAYBE JUST SHOWN THIS AS GRAVEL BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT OUR, OUR, OUR BUDGET HAS IN PROJECT IS RIGHT NOW IT'S EXISTING GRAVEL AND WE'RE GONNA JUST IMPROVE THE, THE GRADING OF THE GRAVEL AND MAKE SURE THAT IT, IT, IT DOESN'T HAVE ANY POTHOLES.

BUT TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, WE WE'RE CONSIDERING JUST, AGAIN, IT'S JUST FOR ALCOHOL TO, TO, TO KEEP THE, TO MEET THE TABC RULES OF, OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE WINE CAN STAY WITHIN THIS, THIS PERIMETER.

I GUESS I'D HAVE TO, UH, GO TO THE CITY AND SEE IF IS SPLIT RAIL FENCING APPROVED AS A, A FENCE TYPE? IT IS AN APPROVABLE, UH, FENCE TYPE.

I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO, TO ADD THAT THIS PROJECT IS STILL GOING THROUGH THE BUILDING PERMITTING, EXCUSE ME, PROCESS.

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SO IF THE FENCE TYPE CHANGES FROM OH, I GOTCHA.

WE'LL COME BACK.

OKAY.

RIGHT.

SO THESE ARE SOME ELEMENTS THAT, THAT MAY BE IN FLUX, BUT I, I HAD, I, I GUARANTEED FRANKIE THAT IF THERE WAS ANY DEVIATION FROM THESE RENDERINGS THAT WE WOULD RESUBMIT.

OKAY.

AND, AND PRESENT.

PERFECT.

PERFECT.

UM, JUST TWO LAST QUESTIONS.

UH, THE GATE ENTRY AT, AT THE FRONT OF THE PROPERTY.

OH, OKAY.

IT HAS THAT LITTLE, UM, WELL, THERE'S, THERE'S NO GATE HERE.

WELL, NO, I'M TALKING THE SIDEWALK GATE.

OH, RIGHT HERE.

OKAY.

THERE'S THAT ARCH OVER AT THE, YES.

IS THAT THE FINAL DESIGN OF THAT OR IS THAT IT? IT'S NOT NECESSARILY THE FINAL DESIGN.

I, I PUT THIS AS A PLACEHOLDER THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE SOME VERTICAL ELEMENT HERE FOR SIGNAGE.

SO I WOULD LIKE IF THE COMMISSION WOULD ALLOW US TO MAKE THIS ELEMENT BE PART OF OUR PRESENTATION WHEN WE COME IN FOR THE SIGNAGE APPROVALS.

OKAY.

AND THEN MY, UH, WELL ACTUALLY I HAVE TWO THINGS.

, UH, THE RAILINGS FOR THE DECK, I SEE THAT THE PORCH RAILING YES.

MATCHES THE EXISTING, BUT THEN THE RAILINGS FOR THE, FOR THE DECKS ARE NEW OR DIFFERENT DESIGN.

WHAT, WHAT I DIDN'T WANNA DO WAS, BECAUSE THIS WAS THE ORIGINAL, UM, UH, PICKETS OR I'M ASSUMING THERE'S SOME OF, OBVIOUSLY THEY'VE BEEN RE SOME OF THEM HAVE BEEN REPLACED, BUT I THINK THIS WAS OF THE TIME PERIOD.

THIS WAS WHAT WAS, WHAT WAS STANDARD.

I DIDN'T WANT TO CONFUSE AND I WANTED TO HAVE MORE OF A, UH, MODERN OR OP WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT.

UM, WE'RE, WE'RE NOT ABOVE 30 INCHES, UH, FOR BUILDING CODE.

WE CAN'T HAVE A, ANYTHING OVER 30 INCHES ABOVE GRADE OR FINISHED FLOOR.

YOU HAVE TO HAVE A FOUR INCH FEAR, NOT PASS THROUGH.

UM, ROGER, I'M SORRY, THE ELEMENT FOR SAFETY PURPOSES, LIKE A CHILD OR A BABY FALLING AND HURTING THEMSELVES.

BUT BECAUSE WE'RE UNDER 30 INCHES OF, OF ELEVATION CHANGE, THEN WE COULD MINIMIZE THIS RAILING OTHER THAN PEOPLE JUST STEPPING OFF.

SO WE'RE KEEPING THIS MORE OF AN OPEN AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.

AND I DIDN'T WANT TO COMPETE AND SHOW.

I LIKE IT.

IT LOOKS, IT LOOKED LIKE IT ACCENTUATES THE HOUSE.

YEAH.

BETTER.

AND IT JUST KIND OF BLENDS IN.

RIGHT.

AND IT'S NOT COMPETING WITH THE HOUSE.

I DIDN'T WANT EXACTLY THAT.

THAT'S RIGHT.

UM, COMMISSIONER, UH, PATTY, I DIDN'T WANT TO BRING ANYTHING THAT WOULD CONFUSE OF, OF BEING AN ORIGINAL OR TAKE AWAY FROM THIS.

THE MAIN LOOKIN BULK HOUSE AND NET RAILING FOR THE DECKS WOULD BE METAL OR WOOD OR WE'RE, WE'RE CONSIDERING IT BOTH, EITHER METAL OR WOOD.

I THINK IT'LL PROBABLY BE, UH, STRUCTURALLY MORE SOUND BEING METAL, UM, IS WHAT WE HAVE DRAWN SO FAR.

UM, AND THEN, UM, IT MAY HAVE A WOOD CAP.

UH, SO THOSE ARE ELEMENTS THAT WE WILL HAVE DEFINED IF WE HAVE TO RESUBMIT KIND OF THE, YOU KNOW, THE PICKETS HERE.

AND THEN IF NOTHING CHANGES ALONG THE, UH, THE WRENCH STYLE FENCE AND THEN OF COURSE THAT.

BUT YEAH, THE GOAL WAS TO MINIMIZE THIS RAILING SO THAT IT DIDN'T COMPETE WITH THE LOOKIN BCH RAILING.

OKAY.

AND THEN MY LAST QUESTION IS JUST THE, UH, THE FIREPLACE DETAIL.

I KNOW HOW, I THINK YOUR INTENTION WAS TO SORT OF BALANCE THE PROPERTY, HAVE A HEAVIER ELEMENT TO, TO, TO OFFSET THE, THE BUILDING.

BUT IT, IT LOOKS LIKE IT JUST A HUGE WELL, WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO, MASSIVE TOWER .

WELL, WE, THE ONE THING ABOUT, UM, I DID THE, UM, THE PATIO AT, AT PEGGY'S ON THE GREEN, THIS IS MY DESIGN, UM, HERE, THIS WAS A BIGGER, BROADER FIREPLACE.

THE CHIMNEY IS THE SAME HEIGHT AS WHAT WE'VE GOT SHOWN IN OUR RENDERING.

AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS TO AVOID SMOKE.

'CAUSE I, I'VE DONE SHALLOW CHIMNEYS AND RESIDENTS, BUT WHEN YOU HAVE CUSTOMERS EITHER EATING, DINING, UM, HAVING A WINE TASTING, SOMETIMES WITH A A BRISK WIND, THAT SMOKE GETS PUSHED BACK DOWN.

MM-HMM .

AND SO, UM, THE GOAL HERE WAS TO RIGHT THERE, YEAH, SORRY, GUYS.

THERE, UH, WAS TO KEEP THIS TO WHERE IT, IT STAYS ABOVE, UH, MR. LEE'S PATRONS, UH, SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE THAT ISSUE OF SMOKE BEING PUSHED DOWN ONTO.

AND THEN, UM, WE HAVE AN ELEMENT HERE, UM, JUST THIS IS MORE OF A WATER FEATURE THAT'S GONNA BE PART OF THE LANDSCAPE PLAN THAT'S IN FOR PERMIT RIGHT NOW.

UH, IT, I DON'T THINK IT EVEN LOOKS, IT'S NOT THIS SHAPE, BUT

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IT'S RAISED.

OKAY.

YES, IT'S RAISED, IT'S SO THAT NO ONE FALLS INTO IT.

YEAH.

BECAUSE EVERYONE'S LOOKING AT THEIR PHONE AND THEN THEY'LL DO A FACE PLANT .

SO THAT COULD BE FUN.

THAT'S GOOD ONE.

IS THE BACK CHIMNEY GONNA BE AN ACTIVE FIREPLACE TOO? YES.

THAT ONE IS ALSO, UM, RIGHT NOW IT, IT WOULD BE SITTING BACK HERE.

THIS TREE IS NOW GONE.

THERE, THERE, UH, THIS WAS, YOU COULD TELL THERE WAS, IT WAS VERY ILL.

UM, BUT WHAT WE HAVE IS WE HAVE AN INTERIOR FIREPLACE THAT WE'RE ADDING IN THIS NEW ADDITION.

HERE'S OUR NEW FLOOR PLAN, AS FRANKIE HAD MENTIONED.

AND SO IT'S A TWO-WAY, TWO-WAY FIREPLACE, BUT NOT SEE-THROUGH, THERE'S ACTUALLY A WALL BETWEEN THE TWO.

AND SO THIS IS OUTDOOR COVERED AREA, AND THEN THIS IS OPEN TO THE SKY, BUT IT'S ALL ONE LEVEL DECK.

AND WE WERE ABLE TO GET THIS ROOF HERE TO MATCH WHAT WE'RE DOING, WHAT WHAT ORIGINALLY IS HERE WITH, UM, THE LOOKIN BCH HOUSE.

BUT TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, MR. UH, COMMISSIONER NICHOLS IS YES.

THAT THAT IS GONNA BE A NEW ACTIVE FIREPLACE.

GOTCHA.

AND THEN THE TRELLIS, I DIDN'T REALLY TALK ABOUT THAT.

THE REASON FOR THE TRELLIS IS WE HAVE OUR GRAVEL PARKING LOT HERE.

THIS IS TO FEEL LIKE YOU'RE COMING IN, EVEN THOUGH IF YOU DON'T COME IN FROM MAIN STREET, WE WANTED TO CELEBRATE THIS ENTRANCE AS AS BEING JUST AS IMPORTANT AS THE ONE OFF MAIN STREET.

SO WE'RE INTENDING TO HAVE WINE BARRELS ALONG THE COLUMNS AND GRAPEVINES TO COME AND GROW OVER THE TRELLIS ONCE IT'S MATURED.

YEAH.

GOOD.

GREAT, GREAT WORK.

IT SEEMS LIKE YOU REALLY THOUGHT ABOUT THE PROJECT AND, AND PUT YOUR HEART AND SOUL INTO IT.

WE APPRECIATE THAT AND THANK YOU.

AND THAT'S ALL, UH, QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS THAT I HAVE, IF ANYBODY ELSE HAS ANY I'M EXCITED.

I THINK, I THINK DRAWING, I THINK THIS WILL DRAW A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT NORTH, WHICH IS EXCITING.

WE NEED, WE NEED MORE, MORE THINGS.

THAT'S BEEN THE GOAL.

YEAH.

I WAS THE ORIG.

I, I WAS, UH, I WORKED WITH, UH, WITH RON BOWMAN AND CHRIS, UM, TURK, UH, BACK IN, IN WHEN I FIRST MOVED HERE IN 2000, AND GAVE THEM THE IDEA OF THE HILL COUNTRY MILE.

I EVEN GAVE THAT NAME TO RON TO USE BECAUSE I SAID YOUR PROBLEM WAS MAINE PLAZA WAS THE CUL-DE-SAC FOR BERNIE.

PEOPLE JUST WENT AROUND THERE AND CAME BACK AND I SAID, THE CITY NEEDS TO MOVE NORTH TO BE THE DEVELOPER SO THAT NORTH MAINE CONTINUES TO GROW IN THAT DIRECTION.

SO NORTH MAINE USED TO BE THE PLACE TO BE YES.

BACK WHEN I WAS IN HIGH SCHOOL.

.

YEAH.

SO, UM, IF THERE'S ANY OTHER QUESTIONS I DEFINITELY WANTED TO ANSWER EVERYONE'S NO, I THINK, I THINK IT'S GREAT.

I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA.

LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU BACK WITH THE SIGN DESIGN AND THE NEXT FEW THINGS.

GREAT.

I KNOW IF THE OWNER WANTS TO SAY YES, I'D LIKE, I'D LIKE MR. LEE TO TALK ABOUT HIS, UM, HIS PASSION AND, AND, AND BEFORE Y'ALL OH, GO AHEAD.

WHO'S GOT THE WINE? OPENS A REALLY GOOD JOB.

SO HE DIDN'T LEAVE MUCH FOR ME TO DO OR SAY EITHER.

AND THANK YOU FRANKIE, FOR DOING A GREAT JOB OF SET SETTING THIS UP FOR US.

AND MY NAME IS RICHARD LEE.

THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS FOR VOLUNTEERING AND BEING HERE FOR US.

AND THANK YOU EVERYBODY ELSE FOR BEING HERE THIS EVENING.

UH, MY NAME IS RICHARD LEE.

UH, MY WIFE AND I MOVED HERE IN 2018.

WE'RE NATIVE TEXANS, BUT WE DID A STINT IN CALIFORNIA IN WINE COUNTRY FOR, UH, ABOUT EIGHT YEARS FROM 2011 TO 2018.

AND WE MOVED BACK TO OUR ROOTS BACK TO TEXAS TO BE CLOSE TO OUR FAMILY.