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[1. CALL TO ORDER – 6:00 PM]
ON JUNE 24TH, 2025 TO THE REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING FOR THE CITY OF BURN, TEXAS.UH, WOULD YOU PLEASE JOIN ME IN A PRAYER, GRACIOUS AND LOVING GOD, WE GIVE YOU THANKS FOR GLORIOUS DAY.
WE GIVE YOU THANKS FOR JUST THAT LITTLE BIT OF RAIN, UH, LORD, AS IT COMES DOWN AND, AND RENEWS US.
AND RESTORES US AND MINDFUL THE GRACE THAT YOU POUR UPON US.
SO, LORD, JUST BE WITH THIS COUNCIL AND THIS AND THESE STAFF MEMBERS THIS EVENING AS THEY PRESENT THE, THE ITEMS ON THE AGENDAS.
WE HAVE DISCUSSION THAT WE REMEMBER THAT WE'RE HERE FOR THE SERVE OUR COMMUNITY TO SERVE ONE ANOTHER, BUT ALSO TO SERVE YOU IN ALL OUR DECISION MAKING AND ALL THAT WE DO.
GOD, OUR HEARTS, GOD, OUR DECISIONS, AND GOD, OUR WORDS THAT WE MIGHT HAVE CONVERSATION THAT GLORIFIES YOU, BUT ALSO ONE ANOTHER, YOUR PRECIOUS.
WOULD YOU JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE TEXAS FLAG? I PLEDGE THE, THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TWO, THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL ON UNDER THE TEXAS FLAG.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO BE TEXAS, TEXAS, ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AN INDIVISIBLE.
[2. CONFLICTS OF INTEREST]
ALL RIGHT, COUNCIL MEMBERS.MOVING ON TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TWO, CONFLICTS OF INTEREST.
ARE THERE ANY CONFLICTS OF INTEREST ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA? NO, NO CONFLICTS OF INTEREST.
MOVING ON TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER THREE, PUBLIC COMMENTS NOBODY HAS SIGNED UP TO, TO MAKE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS.
BUT IF YOU CAME IN LATE AND WOULD LIKE TO COME FORWARD AND, UH, SPEAK, UH, THE PUBLIC COMMENTS SECTION, PLEASE COME FORWARD AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO DO SO.
[4. CONSENT AGENDA: All items listed below within the Consent Agenda are considered to be routine by the City Council and may be enacted with one motion. There will be no separate discussion of items unless a Council Member or citizen so requests, in which event the item may be moved to the general order of business and considered in its normal sequence.]
ON TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FOUR, COUNCIL MEMBERS CONSENT AGENDA, I, ANY, UH, QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS FOR CONSENT.AGENDA ITEM FOUR A, IF NO QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS, I A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN WILLISON.
MAY I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA AS PRESENTED? SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN BUNKER, PLEASE VOTE.
AND CONSENT AND AGENDA PASSES.
[A. CONSIDER THE UN-TABLING OF ORDINANCE NO. 2025-07, AS DESCRIBED BELOW. (tabled on 6/10/2025)]
ON TO AGENDA ITEM FIVE A 2025 DASH TWO EIGHT.CONSIDER THE UN TABLING OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 20 25 0 7 AS DESCRIBED BELOW, TABLED ON 6 10 20 25.
CAN I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN BUNKER? YEAH, I, I MOTION I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE TLING OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 20 25 0 7 A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN WILLISON.
[B. CONSIDER ON FIRST READING ORDINANCE NO. 2025-07; AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE OFFICIAL ZONING MAP OF THE CITY OF BOERNE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE, BY AMENDING CHAPTER 3. ZONING, SECTION 3.2, ZONING MAP, GRANTING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT (SUP) TO ALLOW A DRIVE-THRU IN THE C2 - TRANSITIONAL COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICT WITHIN THE SOBO - SOUTH BOERNE OVERLAY DISTRICT AT COMMONS OF MENGER UNIT 11, LOT 11A, GENERALLY LOCATED NEAR THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF GALLANT FOX AND HERFF ROAD; REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT; CONTAINING A SEVERANCE CLAUSE; AND DECLARING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. (At the request of Boerne Commons, Ltd.)]
TO FIVE B 2025 DASH 2 82.CONSIDER ON FIRST READING ORDINANCE NUMBER 2025 DASH ZERO SEVEN.
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE OFFICIAL ZONING MAP OF THE CITY OF BERNIE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE BY AMENDING CHAPTER THREE ZONING SECTION 3.2 ZONING MAP GRANTING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT TO ALLOW A DRIVE THROUGH IN THE C TWO TRANSITIONAL COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICT WITHIN THE SOBO SOUTH BURNIE OVERLAY DISTRICT AT COMMONS OF MANGER UNIT 11, LOT 11 A GENERALLY LOCATED NEAR THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF GALLANT FOX AND HERF ROAD.
REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT CONTAINING A SE SEVERANCE CLAUSE AND DECLARING AN EFFECTIVE DATE PRESENTING NATHAN CRANE AND NATHAN.
UH, AS A REMINDER, UH, THE COUNCIL FIRST CONSIDERED THIS ITEM AT THE JUNE 10TH MEETING.
UH, THEY DID RECEIVE THE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION.
UH, THE PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION VOTED FIVE TWO TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THIS ITEM, THEN HELD A PUBLIC HEARING AND THEN VOTED.
CONTINUE THIS ITEM TO THIS MEETING.
I'LL BE BRIEF, UH, SINCE WE'VE DISCUSSED THIS BEFORE, BUT JUST AS A REMINDER, UH, THIS IS SITE PLAN BEFORE YOU INCLUDES A, UH, 6,300 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING WITH TWO TENANTS, UH, 2,400 SQUARE FOOT COFFEE SHOP, KNOWN AS STARBUCKS.
AND, UH, ADJACENT RETAIL AT 3,900 SQUARE FEET.
THE HOURS OF OPERATION FOR THE, UH, STARBUCKS WOULD BE, UH, 5:00 AM TO 9:00 PM SEVEN DAYS A WEEK.
UH, THIS, UH, GRAPHIC HAS BEEN PROVIDED TO SHOW HOW THE SITE WOULD WORK TOGETHER ON A LOT 11 A AND 11 B.
UH, AS PART OF THEIR VISION FOR THIS PROJECT, THEY ARE PROPOSING A COMMUNITY POCKET PARK, ASSUMING THIS PROPERTY IS ACQUIRED BY THIS DEVELOPER, ACCESS TO THE SITE IS PROVIDED BY, UH, HERF ROAD AND A CROSS ACCESS EASEMENT ALONG THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY.
UH, RIGHT HERE IS THE PROPOSED, UH, BERNIE ER.
UH, WE JUST MET WITH THEM, UH, TODAY ACTUALLY ON THEIR PLANS.
UH, THEY'RE MAKING GOOD PROGRESS ON THOSE.
UH, THIS AGAIN IS THE FUTURE RETAIL.
YOU'LL SEE THE RIGHT IN, RIGHT OUT ON HERF ROAD.
AND THIS WILL EVENTUALLY CONNECT TO A FUTURE CUL-DE-SAC, UH, THAT WILL BE PART OF UNIT NINE.
GALLANT FOX IS THE EXISTING ONE ON THIS, ON THE WEST REST, THE DRIVE THROUGH STACKING, UH, WE MEASURING FROM THE, UH, PICKUP WINDOW, UH, TO THIS POINT, APPROXIMATELY THIS POINT, THERE'S A ENOUGH STACKING FOR 26
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CARS.UH, THIS EXCLUDED, UH, THE DECELERATION LANE IF WE HAVE DECEL LA IF WE ARE USING THAT FOR STACKING, WE HAVE, UH, BIGGER ISSUES THAT WE NEED TO SOLVE AT THAT POINT.
UH, LANDSCAPE PLAN IS BEFORE YOU A COUPLE OF THINGS.
UH, THIS AREA HERE IS 12 FEET IN WIDTH.
UH, SO IT LIMITS THE SIZE OF TREE THAT CAN BE PLANTED.
AND THERE'S ALSO A, UH, 30 FOOT POWER EASEMENT.
YOU SEE THAT IN THE, UH, GRASS MIX HERE, UH, THAT LIMITS THE PLANTING THAT CAN HAPPEN ALONG HERF ROAD.
UH, THE APPLICANT DID PROVIDE SOME RE RENDERINGS OF THE SITE.
YOU'LL SEE THE, UH, PROPOSED BUILDING HERE WITH THE DRIVE-THROUGH, UH, FUTURE RETAIL AT THIS LOCATION, UH, POTENTIAL, UH, PROPOSED, UH, ELEVATIONS, FRONT SIDE AND THE RETAIL.
FINALLY, THEY ARE PROPOSING, AS I MENTIONED, THE, UH, PRIVATE COMMUNITY PARK.
ASSUMING THIS IS, UH, THE JASON PARCEL IS ACQUIRED BY THE DEVELOPER, HERE'S A RENDERING OF WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE.
UH, AS DISCUSSED AT OUR LAST MEETING, UH, THE APPLICANT HAS, UH, CONSTRUCTED A STARBUCKS IN OR A SIMILAR BUILDING IN B CAVE.
UH, YOU CAN SEE THE, UH, FRONT ELEVATION HERE AND THE EL REAR ELEVATION HERE WITH THE, UH, WATER STORAGE.
UH, BASED ON SINCE THE, UM, SINCE OUR MEETING, UH, STAFF IS PROPOSING, UH, CHANGES TO THE STIPULATIONS, UH, THEY ARE HIGHLIGHTED, UH, FOR YOU IN GREEN.
UH, WE'RE ADDING A STIPULATION FOR PLAN CONFORMANCE.
IN OTHER WORDS, THE COMPLIANCE WITH THE SITE PLAN AND LANDSCAPE, UH, AND RENDERINGS THAT ARE, UH, DATE TODAY.
UH, SECONDARY ACCESS IS THE SAME, UH, DECEL DECELERATION LANE.
THIS REFLECTS THE COMMITMENT FROM THE PROPERTY OWNER TO BUILD THE DECELERATION LANE.
UH, DIRECTIONAL DIRECTIONAL SIGNAGE IS THE SAME, ALONG WITH, UH, THE LANDSCAPING.
WE DID ADD A HVAC AND RAINWATER CONDENSATION COLLECTION SYSTEMS, ADDING THOSE TO THE SITE.
THEY'RE PROPOSING THE RAINWATER, UH, THE HVAC IS NEW, UH, HERF ROAD, ENHANCING THE, HER THE LANDSCAPING AND WORKING WITH OUR ENVIRONMENTAL PROGRAM MANAGER TO DO THAT.
AND THEN ADDING ADDITIONAL, UH, HANDICAP PARKING SPACES.
I WILL NOTE THAT ACCORDING TO, ACCORDING TO THE, UH, UDC, THEY'RE REQUIRED TWO SPACES WHICH THEY HAVE PROVIDED.
SO WITH THAT, HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
THE APPLICANT'S HERE, UH, TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL ALSO.
BEFORE WE OPEN UP THE COUNCIL, I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND, AND JUST KIND OF SPEAK MY PIECE AND I'LL LET THE COUNCIL WEIGH IN AFTER THAT.
UM, HEADS OFF TO JUSTIN AND THE DEVELOPER.
UM, BY NO MEANS, UM, IS MY OPPOSITION AGAINST THE DEVELOPER.
I THINK YOU'VE DONE AN AMAZING JOB WITH THIS PROJECT AND IT LOOKS KIND OF GOOD.
I JUST DO NOT THINK THIS IS THE FIT FOR A HEAVY TRAFFIC ROAD THAT WAS DESIGNED TO HOLD 9,000 CARS.
IT NOW HAS 3000 OR 23,000 CARS ON A DAILY.
UM, ESPECIALLY WITH THIS TYPE OF BUSINESS, IT'S GONNA INCREASE THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC FLOW THERE CONSIDERABLY AT THE MOST HIGH TIME TRAFFIC POINTS IN THE MORNING.
SECONDLY, MY, MY ISSUE WITH THIS, WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT PART IS NOT ABOUT, LIKE I SAID AGAIN WITH THE DEVELOPER, I THINK THEY'VE DONE AN AMAZING JOB, IS WITH THE BUSINESS.
WE HAVE TOUTED BERNIE AS, AS, AS A, AS MOVING FORWARD.
WE WANT BUSINESSES THAT COME AND WANNA BE PART OF THIS COMMUNITY, UH, SERVE THIS COMMUNITY, BE AND, AND BE A MEMBER OF THIS COMMUNITY.
UM, AND WHEN ASKED IF THE, THE RESIDENT, UH, WITH THAT BEING, I BELIEVE STARBUCKS, UM, ASK ABOUT WHETHER THEY WOULD DENY THE, THE, THE RIGHT IN, RIGHT OUT, THEY'D BE WILLING TO STILL DO THE DRIVE THROUGH.
'CAUSE I'M NOT OPPOSED TO THE DRIVE THROUGH WITHOUT THE WRITE IN AND WRITE OUT.
UM, BY ALL MEANS, I, I THINK THAT GOING THROUGH THE BACK WAY MAKES IT MUCH MORE, MORE FEASIBLE THAT WAY.
UM, THEIR RESPONSE WOULD BE THAT THEY WERE GONNA, UM, LEAVE.
RIGHT? AND THAT TELLS ME THAT THEY ARE NOT HERE FOR THE BETTERMENT OF OUR COMMUNITY.
THEY'RE HERE TO RAISE REVENUE AND TAKE CARE OF THEIR BUSINESS.
AND, UH, SO AGAIN, THAT'S WHERE I STAND ON THE OPPOSITION OF THIS, THIS, THIS, UH, SUP FOR THIS BUSINESS.
UM, AND I'LL OPEN UP TO COUNCIL MEMBERS IF ANYONE WANTS TO SPEAK ON THAT BEHALF.
UM, CAN YOU REMIND US AGAIN WHAT THIS IS CURRENTLY ZONED? YES.
THIS IS A C TWO WITH A, UH, SOBO OVERLAY.
SO IN A C TWO, I DON'T EXPECT YOU TO LIST ALL THE ALLOWED USES, BUT I'M ASSUMING RESTAURANT WOULD BE ALLOWED WITHOUT AN SUP.
UH, THE ONLY, THE ONLY REASON IT'S BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING IS 'CAUSE THE DRIVE THROUGH REQUIRES THE SUP.
SO A RESTAURANT COULD, SO, YOU KNOW, ONE, I'M NOT LOOKING FOR AN ANSWER, BUT ONE QUESTION IS WHAT IS IT SPECIFICALLY FROM A C TWO WE THINK WOULD WORK HERE AND NOT CREATE TRAFFIC ISSUES? UM, SO I, I THINK THAT'S JUST SOMETHING FOR US PHILOSOPHICALLY TO THINK ABOUT.
BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, QUENTIN BROUGHT UP WHAT DO WE WANT AN UNSUCCESSFUL BUSINESS, WHICH I KNOW YOU'RE BEING SOMEWHAT COY, BUT I THINK IT WAS YOU'RE TRUE.
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UM, IN IN THAT THINKING.IT'S 13,000 CARS IN THAT AREA, IS THAT CORRECT? NOT 23 EVENING ALL, UH, YES.
THE 23 NUMBER THAT I SAID AT THE COUPLE COUNCIL MEETINGS AGO IS UP CLOSER TO RIVER HERF.
WHEN YOU GET CLOSER TO THIS INTERSECTION, A LOT OF PEOPLE ACTUALLY MAKE A LEFT TURN OR, OR COMING FROM OLD SAN ANTONIO.
SO THE TRAFFIC KINDA SPLITS AT THE OLD SAN ANTONIO HERF INTERSECTION.
SO CLOSER TO THIS SITE ON HERF ROAD, IT'S ABOUT 13,000.
WE HAVE 11,000 ON OLD SAN ANTONIO.
THE TWO OF THOSE TOGETHER MAKE THE 24 ISH THOUSAND CLOSER TO THE RIVER HERF.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE THIS DATA, BUT DO WE THINK MOST OF THAT TRAFFIC IS COMING FROM COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES OR PEOPLE MOVING FROM RESIDENTIAL OR SCHOOLS TO ANOTHER POINT, ORIGIN DESTINATION IS A MUCH MORE COMPLICATED EFFORT THAN JUST KNOWING HOW MANY CARS WENT IN ONE PARTICULAR SPOT.
UM, SO WE HAVE SOME ORIGIN DESTINATION, BUT NOT ENOUGH TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION.
I MEAN, I WOULD, AGAIN, WITHOUT HARD DATA, MY GUESS IS THAT MOST OF THOSE PEOPLE AREN'T COMING FROM A RESTAURANT OR COFFEE SHOP IN THE MORNING TO ANOTHER ONE.
RIGHT? THEY'RE COMING FROM EAST 46 TRYING TO GET TO SOMEWHERE AND WORK OR SENT SAN ANTONIO OR GOING FROM SCHOOL TO SCHOOL.
TO YOUR POINT, I THINK WE LOSE A LOT ON THAT LEFT TURN 'CAUSE THERE IS THE SOUTH MIDDLE SCHOOL AND ELEMENTARY, ET CETERA.
UM, UH, ALSO I THINK WITH THE RIGHT IN, RIGHT OUT WITH THE DECELERATION LANE ON A FOUR FOUR LANE ROAD WITH A MEDIAN IS I THINK, PRETTY EFFICIENT AT MOVING TRAFFIC SAFELY.
I, UM, YOU KNOW, A GOOD EXAMPLE, NOT APPLES TO APPLES 'CAUSE THE ROAD'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT, BUT CITY HALL HAS A RIGHT IN RIGHT OUT, UM, THAT MOST OF US WHO COME HERE USE PROBABLY EVERY TIME.
AND IT ALLOWS LESS TRAFFIC TO, UM, PILE UP AT THE INTERSECTION OF JOHNS ROAD AND MAIN STREET.
AND THEN, UH, HERF HAS THE ADDITION OF THE MEDIAN.
SO PEOPLE WHO ARE TAKING THAT RIGHT HAND OUT CAN'T DO WHAT I SOMETIMES SEE ON MAIN STREET, AND THEY TAKE THE LEFT FROM THE RIGHT, RIGHT OUT.
UM, AND I ALSO, EVEN, EVEN IF THE DESAL LANE WAS ALL THE WAY FULL FROM, FROM THE DRIVE THROUGH, YOU'D STILL HAVE A LEFT LANE TO GET THROUGH TRAFFIC.
UM, NOW I DON'T KNOW THAT I'VE EVER SEEN THAT LONG OF A LINE WHERE PEOPLE CONTINUE TO LINE UP FOR A STARBUCKS.
THERE'S PROBABLY SOME EXAMPLES OF SOME, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING.
BUT MY GUESS IS IF THERE WAS A LINE THAT FAR BACK, PEOPLE WOULD EITHER GO SOMEWHERE ELSE FOR THEIR COFFEE OR PARK AND GO INSIDE OR ORDER ONLINE.
UM, NATHAN, I HAD A QUESTION THAT SOMEONE BROUGHT UP AN EMAIL I SENT ABOUT, UM, FIRST RESPONDERS.
I KNOW THE FIRE MARSHALS HERE, BUT I'M GUESSING ANY PROJECT THAT WE LOOK AT GOES IN FRONT OF THE FIRE MARSHAL WHO THEN MAKES A DECISION ON IF THE ACCESS FOR FIRST RESPONDERS IS ADEQUATE.
AND THAT'S FOR ANY PROJECT WE WOULD DO THAT.
AND THAT'S BEEN ADDRESSED WITH THIS POINT.
AND THEY WOULD NOT GET THEIR PERMIT WITHOUT THEIR APPROVAL OF THAT.
UM, SO I MEAN, FOR, FOR ME IT GOES, THE QUESTION IS WE CAN'T LOOK AT IT AS STARBUCKS.
EVEN IF YOU WANT ONLY A LOCAL COFFEE SHOP, WELL THAT'S NOT OUR DECISION TO MAKE.
OUR LEGAL AUTHORITY IS BASED ON ZONING.
THE ZONING FOR THIS IS COMMERCIAL.
YOU MAY WANT A WHATEVER RESTAURANT TO BE THERE, BUT THAT MIGHT CAUSE JUST AS MUCH TRAFFIC.
WE HAVE TO DIS ASSUME THAT OUR TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS STAFF WILL DO THEIR DUE DILIGENCE TO MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT CREATING AN ISSUE.
UM, I THINK THE SUP HAS ALLOWED US TO GET A LOT OUT OF THIS PROJECT THAT WE WOULDN'T A, A RESTAURANT COMING IN WOULDN'T HAVE TO DO THE BULK OF THINGS ON, ON THIS LIST WE GOT THAT WE'RE GETTING READY TO ASK FOR BECAUSE OF THAT SUP, WE'RE GETTING ALL THOSE THINGS.
UM, ONE QUESTION ON THE RENDERING, NATHAN, IT SHOWS LIKE A CROSSWALK, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S JUST TO THE TRASH OR IF THEY'LL ACTUALLY BE AN ACCESS TO THE BACK.
UM, THAT'S ONE QUESTION I HAD IS THAT THE IDEA OF THERE BEING SOME SAFE WAY TO GET ACROSS GALLANT FOX SO THAT THAT KEY PARK WOULD BE MORE ACCESSIBLE.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE, THEY'D BE AMENABLE TO.
I'M ALLOWING SOME SORT OF PEDESTRIAN ACCESS, POTENTIALLY THE APPLICANT'S HERE.
I WOULD DIRECT THAT QUESTION TO HIM.
I WOULD THINK IT WOULDN'T BE TOO MUCH, BUT HOPEFULLY THAT'S ONE, ONE THING, JUST LOOKING AT THE PLAN, I THINK GENERALLY IT'S A GOOD PROJECT.
AGAIN, I, YOU KNOW, TO BE HONEST, WHEN I'M IN A SMALL TOWN, I TRY TO LOOK LOCAL FIRST, BUT IF THERE'S NOT THAT, THEN I GO TO STARBUCKS.
'CAUSE IT'S, IT'S CONVENIENT AND THAT'S HOW WE GO.
SO, UM, THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS FOR NOW.
YEAH, I ECHOING A LOT OF WHAT TY JUST SAID, BUT I I, I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING FOR A MAGIC SOLUTION THAT WE CAN PUT IN A COMMERCIAL BUSINESS HERE THAT'S NOT GONNA INCREASE, INCREASE TRAFFIC, AND THAT DOESN'T EXIST,
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RIGHT? I MEAN, UNLESS IT'S AN UNSUCCESSFUL BUSINESS THERE, THERE'S NOT, THERE'S NOT A, A, A COMMERCIAL AND TALKING ABOUT THE, THE LIVE WORK PLAY AND THE WALKABILITY, AGAIN, THERE'S NOT ENOUGH RESIDENTIAL PLACE WITHIN WALKING DISTANCE.SO LIKE, DOWNTOWN BURN IS A GREAT WALKING PLACE, BUT MOST OF US HAVE TO DRIVE AND PARK SOMEWHERE ON ONE OF THE SIDE STREETS.
SO WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH PARKING HERE.
I I, I THINK THAT THE IDEA THAT OR ENOUGH APARTMENTS HERE, THAT THAT ONE APARTMENT COMPLEX ISN'T GOING TO SUPPORT ANY OF THESE BUSINESSES, UH, THAT THAT WOULD POSSIBLY MOVE IN HERE.
SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE'RE KIND OF GETTING IN THE WEEDS.
EVERYONE WANTS TO KEEP THE TRAFFIC OFF OF HEARTH ROAD, AND I THINK THAT'S AN IMPOSSIBLE ASK, RIGHT? THE TRAFFIC'S GONNA GET WORSE ON EARTH ROAD, AND AS LONG AS WE DON'T HAVE, AS LONG AS WE DON'T BUILD MORE ROADS AND OTHER WAYS AROUND.
I MEAN, I REMEMBER, YOU KNOW, I WAS HERE WHEN HEARTH ROAD WAS BUILT AND WE WERE GOING THE OLD SHEET DIP ROUTE AND DRIVING THE OLD ONE LANE ROAD, GOING BACK THAT WAY.
AND, YOU KNOW, TRAFFIC HAS ALWAYS BEEN AN ISSUE.
AND UNTIL WE START BUILDING ROADS OUTSIDE OR BUILD OTHER ACCESS POINTS, THAT ROAD'S GONNA BE THERE.
NOW KNOW I USE THAT RIGHT IN, RIGHT OUT JUST TO SCHLOTZSKY'S ALL THE TIME.
I DRIVE HERF ROAD, MAYBE NOT DAILY, BUT ALMOST DAILY.
AND I'LL SAY, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU GET TO MAIN STREET THERE, YOU'RE, EVERYBODY'S TURNING LEFT.
I'VE NEVER HAD A CAR HAD TO SLOW DOWN BEHIND ME OR HAD TO SLOW DOWN AND WAIT FOR A CAR TURNING IN THERE.
ATHOS SKIS, THAT RIGHT HAND LANE IS PRETTY CLEAR.
AND IF YOU GET UP TO THAT LIGHT, YOU CAN PRETTY MUCH TURN RIGHT ONTO MAIN STREET WITH VERY, VERY, VERY FEW TIMES.
I HAVE TO ACTUALLY WAIT FOR A GREEN LIGHT.
I THINK THAT THE TRAFFIC CONCERNS ON HEARTH ROAD IS REALLY AT HEARTH ESER 46, WHICH AGAIN, I DRIVE THROUGH THAT INTERSECTION MULTIPLE TIMES A DAY, EVERY DAY.
SO I GET THE FRUSTRATION ON THE TRAFFIC ON HF.
I THINK WE'RE CONFUSING THE TWO SECTIONS THOUGH.
THIS IS A DIFFERENT PART OF HF AND IT'S NOT THE SAME TRAFFIC FLOW.
I THINK, AS JEFF CARROLL SAID, IT'S ALMOST HALF THE TRAFFIC ON THAT SIDE.
NO, FROM 40, WE TAKE SOME 40 SOMETHING TO 14.
SO IT'S, OR YOU KNOW, IT'S SIGNIFICANTLY LESS TRAFFIC.
I I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, I I I THINK THE RIDE IN RIGHT OUT IS NOT SOMETHING I THINK IT'S BEEN BROUGHT UP.
I DON'T THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE DO.
I THINK WITH THE SUP, ANY BUILDING IS GOING TO INCREASE TRAFFIC.
SUP AND GIVING THEM THE DRIVE THROUGH LET'S US GET A LOT FROM THEM THAT ANY OTHER COMMERCIAL BUSINESS THAT WILL INCREASE TRAFFIC ALSO, WE WILL NOT GET ANYTHING FROM THEM.
SO MY COMMENTS WOULD BE JUST, YOU KNOW, I'D LIKE TO ECHO, UH, A LOT THAT, UH, BRETT HAD SAID, WE, WE HAVE STUDIED TRAFFIC.
UM, I, WE COULD STACK UP THE TRAFFIC STUDIES THAT WE HAVE DONE OVER THE YEARS AND THEY'D PROBABLY FOUR TO SIX INCHES TALL, RIGHT ON THOSE DAAS.
WE KNOW WE HAVE A TRAFFIC PROBLEM, BUT I DON'T WANNA LAY AT THE FEET OF A STARBUCKS, UH, DRIVE THROUGH.
UM, AND I AM ALL FOR A DISCUSSION ON ADDITIONAL ROADWAYS IN AND AROUND BERNIE, IF WE COULD JUST FIND THE HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO DO THAT.
UM, IN THE MEANTIME, WE DO HAVE COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES THAT ARE UN THAT, THAT WANT TO DEVELOP.
AND I THINK WE'VE, WE'VE ASKED FOR A NUMBER OF CONCESSIONS FROM THIS DEVELOPER.
UH, HE, HE JUMPED RIGHT ON A DECELERATION LANE, WHICH I THOUGHT WAS PROBABLY ONE OF THE BIGGEST, UH, ASKS.
I MEAN, THEY'RE NOT, IT IS NOT CHEAP TO GO AND THROW IN A DECELERATION LANE THAT WAS OFFERED UP QUITE EASILY.
UM, AND I, I THINK THAT WOULD BE SATISFACTORY TO MITIGATE A LOT OF THE DECELERATION ISSUES AND SLOWING DOWN OF TRAFFIC IN THIS AREA.
UM, HECK, WE DON'T HAVE, WE DON'T HAVE DECELERATION LANES FOR ANY OF THE TURNOUTS THAT ARE, UH, PROPOSED OR IN PLACE RIGHT NOW IN, UH, ON THAT ROAD.
SO I THINK THIS IS ACTUALLY PROBABLY GONNA BE BENEFICIAL TO THE, TO THE, TO THE, THOSE BUSINESSES IN THAT WHOLE, THAT WHOLE SECTION RIGHT THERE.
SO, UM, I THINK GOING FORWARD, YEAH, WE NEED TO TALK TRAFFIC ONE DAY WE CAN PROBABLY DO ANOTHER STUDY ON IT.
IT'S NOT GONNA, IT WON'T BE ANY CHEAPER AND IT WON'T BE ANY EASIER.
UM, AND THERE'S A LOT OF PASSIONATE DISCUSSIONS TO BE HAD ON PEOPLE'S IDEA OF TRAFFICKING IN AND AROUND BERNIE, BUT IT'S NOT STARBUCKS PROBLEM OR WHOEVER WANTS TO DEVELOP THIS OR, YOU KNOW, THERE'S ANOTHER ATTENDANT THERE IN THAT, THAT WILL PROBABLY DRIVE A LITTLE BIT MORE TRAFFIC THAN JUST STARBUCKS ON ITS OWN.
SO, UM, GOING FORWARD, I THINK THIS DEVELOPMENT HAS DONE JUST ABOUT EVERYTHING YOU COULD POSSIBLY DO TO MAKE THAT A SUSTAINABLE, UH, QUALITY BUSINESS FOR BERNIE.
WHILE I NEVER GO TO A STARBUCKS THAT'S, THAT'S NOT MY CUP OF TEA, UM, THEY'VE SATISFIED, I THINK THEY'VE SATISFIED THE NEEDS OF, UH, THAT WE'VE ASKED FOR.
SO I WOULD BE SUPPORTIVE OF IT.
SO I TALKED TO A FEW FOLKS JUST KIND OF, YOU KNOW, AROUND BERNIE, WHAT ARE WE MISSING? LIKE WHAT KIND OF RETAIL STORE ESTABLISHMENT DO WE HAVE THAT THAT WE DON'T HAVE THAT YOU'D LIKE TO HAVE? AND FOR THE MOST PART, THERE WEREN'T VERY MANY
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NEW IDEAS.MOST PEOPLE SAY I'D LIKE A BETTER A OR A BETTER B OR OPTION, DIFFERENT OPTION A OR DIFFERENT OPTION B.
UM, SO I FIND THAT INTERESTING.
I THINK, UM, IT SHOULDN'T BE, UH, DISMISSED THE WORK THAT P AND Z PUTS INTO THESE KIND OF THINGS, RIGHT? THEY DON'T BRING THINGS TO CITY COUNCIL UNLESS THEY'VE DONE A LOT OF THE VETTING OUT OF THESE DIFFERENT PROJECTS.
AND SO I THINK SOME OF THE HEAVY LIFTING WAS DONE BY THEM AS WELL.
UM, I THINK THE REPUTATION OF BEING A COMMUNITY THAT'S DIFFICULT TO WORK WITH FOR DEVELOPERS IS NOT A BAD THING.
IT'S OFTEN THROWN OUT THERE AS LIKE, HEY, Y'ALL ARE DIFFICULT.
I THINK THAT'S A GOOD THING, RIGHT? ESPECIALLY IN A COMMUNITY LIKE BERNIE.
UM, SO WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE, UM, MORE STRINGENT ON WHAT WE ASK FOR PEOPLE THAT COME AND WANNA DEVELOP HERE IN BERNIE.
I THINK WHEN YOU GO TO A DEVELOPER THAT WANTS TO, TO MAKE EFFORT TO DO IT THE RIGHT WAY, WHEN YOU ASK THEM TO HAVE EIGHT DIFFERENT STIPULATIONS AND THEY'RE WILLING TO ABIDE BY THOSE, I THINK THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT.
UM, TO YOUR POINT, QUENTIN, AT SOME POINT YOU, YOU HAVE TO SAY SOMEBODY CAN'T GO IN THERE.
UM, AND SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK IN THE PAST THERE WAS TALKS OF AN AUTOMOTIVE CENTER THERE.
YOU KNOW, I, THERE'S OTHER AUTOMOTIVE CENTERS IN TOWN, RIGHT? UM, SO, UH, ANOTHER STAR, ANOTHER COFFEE HOUSE DOESN'T HURT MY FEELINGS.
I TOO DON'T NECESSARILY, LIKE STARBUCKS IS MY FIRST CHOICE.
UM, I USE THAT THOROUGHFARE IS JUST, UH, TRANSPORTATION FROM A TO B.
UM, BUT IF YOU GO UP AND DOWN THAT THOROUGHFARE, IT'S NOT THE ONLY COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE AVAILABLE.
AND SO THERE'LL BE OTHER DEVELOPMENTS THAT COME IN AND ASK.
AND SO I THINK WE JUST GOTTA DO OUR DI DUE DILIGENCE WHEN THE COMMUNITY'S LOOKING AT THESE THINGS.
OUR JOB, UM, OUR RESPONSIBILITY RATHER, IS TO PROTECT THE CHARM OF BERNIE, BE MINDFUL OF THE TRAFFIC, BUT ALSO, UM, NOT BE SO PROHIBITIVE TO EVERY DEVELOPER.
RIGHT? UH, SO, AND THAT, THAT'S MY OPINION OF IT.
UM, SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, HAD ONE POINT OF CLARIFICATION.
I WANTED TO GET ON THE DECELERATION LANE.
HOW MANY CARS, IF IT WERE TO GET TO THAT POINT? I, I HEARD 26 CARS UP TO THE STREET.
THE DECELERATION LANE WOULD ACCOMMODATE HOW MANY MORE CARS? POTENTIALLY SEVEN.
THAT'S A REALLY SUCCESSFUL BUSINESS.
AT THAT POINT YOU NEED TO USE THE APP AND GO WALK INTO THE STORE.
UM, I HAVE A LOT OF THINGS TO SAY.
UH, CAN YOU COME BACK UP NATHAN, AND MAYBE JUSTIN TOO? I WANNA GO THROUGH THAT LIST OF, UH, THINGS AGAIN, PLEASE.
SO I WANT TO BE CLEAR ON THAT LIST.
UM, AND I'VE, I'VE SAID THIS, SO NOTHING CAN HAPPEN UNTIL THAT CUL-DE-SAC CONNECTION TO, UH, GALLANT FOX IS COMPLETE.
THERE CAN BE NO OCCUPANCY, THERE CAN BE NO OPENING FOR BUSINESS.
AND THAT'S TRUE ALSO OF THE EMERGENCY ROOM.
THAT THAT'S THEIR ONLY CONNECTION.
THEY'RE NOT GONNA HAVE ANY CONNECTION TO HERF ROAD DIRECTLY.
LET ME, LET ME SEE IF I FOLLOW.
CAN THEY OCCUPY? NO, NO, THAT'S MY POINT.
THERE CAN BE NO BUSINESS THERE UNTIL THAT BACK ENTRANCE, CORRECT.
FROM GALLANT FOX IS TOTALLY COMPLETE AND OPERABLE.
IT'S EITHER THAT ONE OR THE OTHER ONE.
WE THINK IT'S GONNA BE GALLANT FOG.
AND THAT'S TRUE ALSO FOR THE ER, BECAUSE THAT'S THE ONLY ENTRANCE THEY WILL HAVE.
THERE WILL BE NO OTHER ENTRANCE.
UM, THE DECELERATION LANE THAT WAS PROPOSED, THAT IS A LANE THAT'S OUTSIDE OF THE TWO LANES OF TRAFFIC THAT EXISTS.
SO IF YOU'RE IN THE DECELERATION LANE, YOU'RE NOT BLOCKING TRAFFIC.
THE REASON I SAY THAT IS I TOOK MY DOG TO HERBS VETERINARY TODAY.
THERE'S ESSENTIALLY A DECELERATION LANE, IF YOU WANNA CALL IT THAT.
'CAUSE YOU HAVE TO TURN LEFT THROUGH TWO LANES OF TRAFFIC.
OTHERWISE I'D BE SITTING THERE BLOCKING TRAFFIC.
BUT I DIDN'T BECAUSE I WAS IN THE, THE LEFT TURN LANE RIGHT OUT OF TRAFFIC.
SO NOBODY GOT STUCK BEHIND ME WAITING TO MAKE A LEFT TURN TO GO TO THE VET.
AS FAR AS THE, THE TRAFFIC THROUGH THERE, IT'S ALL THROUGH TRAFFIC.
THEY'RE ALL NOT GOING TO HERBS, VETERINARY CLINIC,
SO BASICALLY EVERYONE TRANSITING HERF ROAD, THOSE 13,000 CARS, PROBABLY 98% OF 'EM ARE THROUGH TRAFFIC.
THERE'S CITIZENS GOING TO WORK FROM WORK, GOING DOWNTOWN, COMING BACK, GOING OUT TO THE, THE SCHOOLS, WHATEVER IT MAY BE.
SO THERE IS NO TRAFFIC GENERATED SIGNIFICANTLY OTHER THAN MAYBE THE APARTMENTS COMING THAT AREA.
SO, AND THERE NEEDS TO BE AMPLE STORAGE WITH HVAC AND RAINWATER COLLECTION.
THE LANDSCAPING THAT THE ENHANCED LANDSCAPING THAT THEY'VE AGREED TO SHOULD BE ABLE TO BE WATERED WITHOUT TOUCHING CITY WATER.
BECAUSE IF YOU'VE GOT ADEQUATE STORAGE WITH RAINFALL AND WITH HVAC, YOU GOT A LOT OF WATER BECAUSE YOU'RE GONNA RUN THAT AIR CONDITIONER 18 HOURS OR MORE A DAY, SEVEN DAYS A WEEK, IT'S NOT GONNA GO OFF.
UM, HANDICAP PARKING, IS THAT TWO ADDITIONAL OR TWO ONLY? SO THIS WOULD BE THE, AS THE STIPULATION IS WORDED, IT'S TWO
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ADDITIONAL, SO THAT WOULD BE FOUR CORRECT.UH, ADDITIONALLY ON THE EAST SIDE WHERE THOSE SIX PARKING SPOTS ARE, WHERE THE POTENTIAL FOR THE, UH, DRIVE THROUGH TO WRAP AROUND, ARE THEY GONNA BE BLOCKED IN ANY WAY? AND HOW ARE THEY GONNA BE BLOCKED? BECAUSE THAT'S A PROBLEM.
THE EXISTING STARBUCKS IS A MM-HMM
WELL, I WON'T GET INTO WHAT THAT IS, BUT IT'S ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO PARK THERE AND GET IN AND OUT BECAUSE IT'S INADEQUATELY STRUCTURED.
THIS ONE IS, EXCEPT FOR THAT, THOSE LITTLE SIX SPOTS THERE.
I'M WONDERING BECAUSE THE LOT NEXT DOOR, AS YOU SAW ON THE OTHER PLAN, IF YOU PULL IT UP, THERE'S A SPACE THERE, ADDITIONAL SPACE ON THAT SIDE WHERE THE POTENTIAL FOR ANOTHER DEVELOPMENT IS, HOW IS IT GONNA BE STRUCTURED SO THEY DON'T GET THOSE PEOPLE BLOCKED IN? WELL, THERE, THERE WILL BE, PEOPLE WILL BE BLOCKED IN, IT'S A COMMON OCCURRENCE WHEN YOU HAVE A DRIVE THROUGH, UH, WITH ANY TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT, WHETHER IT'S STARBUCKS, FAST FOOD, UH, PHARMACY.
OKAY, WELL, I CAN, I CAN ANSWER THAT, BUT YEAH.
WELL, WELL HOLD THAT THOUGHT FOR ONE SECOND.
'CAUSE THE SECOND PART OF THAT IS, IF BY CHANCE THE QUEUE, WHICH I FRANKLY DOUBT WILL HAPPEN, IF THE QUEUE GOT BEYOND 26 CARS INTO THE DECELERATION LANE, WHAT IF I DON'T WANT TO GO INTO THE QUEUE FOR THE, THE, THE DRIVE-THROUGH.
YEAH, YOU'RE STILL SUBJECT TO BEING IN THAT LINE, RIGHT? SO THERE'S NO OTHER WAY TO, THERE'S A TWO THERE.
WANT GO UP TO GALL FOX AND COME, YOU CAN GO GALLANT FOX, YOU'RE GONNA BE STUCK BY THE DRIVE-THRU LANE COMING IN THIS WAY.
THERE'S NO WAY TO TURN PARKING ON, DRIVE PARKING'S PARKING ON THE BACK.
SO UNLESS SOMEBODY LETS YOU IN OFF OF WALLACE, THERE'S, NOW THERE'S PARKING ON THE ROAD FROM GALLANT FLOCK TO STARBUCKS.
THERE'S PARKING SPACES ACROSS THAT ROAD THERE.
AND YOU HAD TO WALK ACROSS THE, YOU'D HAVE TO WALK ACROSS THE STARBUCKS, BUT RIGHT.
BUT WHAT IF YOU WERE COMING OFF A GALLON AND YOU WANTED TO GET IN THE DRIVE THROUGH? YOU WOULDN'T, WELL, YOU'D HAVE TO WALK ALL THE WAY AROUND.
THAT'S, I MEAN, THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT.
NOBODY'S GONNA GO THROUGH THE DRIVE THROUGH IF YOU'RE COMING ON GALLON, YOU HAVE TO HAVE ACCESS TO THE DRIVE-THRU ALSO.
YOU DON'T GO THROUGH THE DRIVE-THRU.
THAT THAT'S ALL, THAT'S A CUSTOMER CHOICE, I WOULD ASSUME.
WELL, YOU CAN, IF THERE'S NOT A QUEUE, YOU COULD MAKE A LEFT TURN.
AND GET INTO THE, THE DRIVE THROUGH LANE.
BUT IF THERE'S A LONG QUEUE BEYOND 11 CARS, NO, IT'D BE DIFFICULT.
UH, SO I UNDERSTAND THAT PROBLEM.
I KNOW THIS BUSINESS, AND I DID NOT OWN STARBUCKS.
IN FACT, I HAD A SIGN THAT SAID, FRIENDS, DON'T LET FRIENDS DRINK AT STARBUCKS IN MY COFFEE SHOPS.
SO I WANNA MAKE IT CLEAR, THIS IS NOT ABOUT STARBUCKS PRO OR CON.
I I USE STARBUCKS WHEN I'M ON THE ROAD.
PEOPLE WHO MEET WITH ME KNOW, I GO TO MOST OF THE LOCAL PLACES.
THE, THE PROBLEM IS THAT, AND I'M, THIS IS A CRITICISM I'M GONNA MAKE.
SO DON'T, YOU DON'T HAVE TO RESPOND, JUST TAKE IT.
THE PRESENTATION MADE TO P AND Z AND TO HERE LAST TIME WAS TOTALLY INSUFFICIENT.
ALL OF THESE ISSUES, IN MY OPINION, SHOULD HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED.
I THINK THE CONFUSION IS THE SUP IS FOR A DRIVE THROUGH.
AND THE, AND THE ISSUE FOR THE DRIVE THROUGH IS, WELL, IT'S JUST A DRIVE THROUGH.
SO WHAT'S THE BIG DEAL? NO, THERE ARE 10,000 OTHER THINGS THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT.
THE REASON THERE'S AN SUP HERE IS IT GIVES US LEVERAGE TO DEAL WITH THESE KIND OF THINGS.
IF THERE WAS NO REQUEST FOR A DRIVE THROUGH, I DON'T THINK WE'D BE HAVING MUCH OF A DISCUSSION TONIGHT BECAUSE IT'S ZONED FOR THIS.
I MEAN, WE'D BE TALKING ABOUT WATER CATCHMENT, WE'D BE TALKING, YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE CONVERSATIONS WE MIGHT HAVE.
BUT I'M SAYING THERE WOULD BE NO APPROVAL PROCESS FOR THAT.
THAT WOULD BE JUST A BEHIND THE SCENES CONVERSATION WITH THE DEVELOPER, THE LANDOWNER, WHATEVER.
WE WOULD HAVE NO, NO AUTHORITY TO EVEN DISCUSS IT PUBLICLY.
SO I MEAN, THE SUP IS SERVING ITS PURPOSE.
AND WE ARE NOT REQUIRED TO GIVE AN SUP.
AND, AND WE ARE PERFECTLY WITHIN OUR LIBERTY TO GIVE STIPULATIONS, WHICH WE HAVE DONE.
THE DEVELOPER, THE LANDOWNER DOESN'T HAVE TO AGREE TO THEM, IN WHICH CASE WE CAN SAY THANK YOU KNOW, GOOD WISHES, BEST LUCK.
THE SECOND PROBLEM I HAVE IS THE ORIGINATION OF THIS.
NONE OF US WERE HERE IN 2009 WHEN THIS WAS INITIALLY PUT TOGETHER.
IT'S THE ONLY NEW ROAD IN 50 YEARS, BASICALLY, OR MORE THAT'S BEEN BUILT IN THIS COMMUNITY TO YOUR, TO YOUR POINT, COUNCILMAN, UNTIL THERE'S APPETITE FROM MORE ROADS, WE'RE STUCK WITH WHAT WE GOT.
AND THE TRAFFIC WILL GET WORSE.
HERFF ROAD WAS BUILT BY THE COUNTY, THE TAXPAYERS OF THE COUNTY, WHICH HAPPENED TO ALSO BE THE CITIZENS OF BERNIE, WE'RE ALSO TAXPAYERS IN THE COUNTY.
DESPITE WHAT SOME PEOPLE TRY TO, TO SAY, WE PAY FOR IT.
ALSO, THE PROBLEM IS, IF THE COUNTY AND THE CITY WERE CONCERNED ABOUT PRESERVING THIS AS A GREEN SPACE ROAD, THAT SHIP SAILED.
THEY SHOULD HAVE DONE THAT IN 2009 WHEN THIS WAS ORIGINALLY ALL PLANNED AND BUILT.
SO WE'RE LEFT WITH THE, THE SITUATION OF THIS IS GOING TO GET DEVELOPED IN SOME WAY.
SO WHAT IS THE CHOICE WE HAVE? WE CANNOT PICK AND CHOOSE.
I WOULD PREFER THAT DICK AND JANE'S COFFEE SHOP WENT THERE.
LOCAL PEOPLE BEEN HERE FOR 50 YEARS.
THE PROBLEM IS DICK AND JANE, FRANKLY, AND I KNOW THIS BUSINESS CANNOT AFFORD TO BUY THAT LAND AND BUILD A COFFEE SHOP AND OPERATE LOCALLY.
AND THE PEOPLE THAT COULD AFFORD IT DON'T REALLY WANNA DO IT.
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SO, I MEAN, HERE WE ARE.I MEAN, THIS IS THE SITUATION AND I AGREE WITH A LOT OF WHAT THE MAYOR SAID, BUT THE FACT IS, IF WE SAY NO TO EVERYTHING, WE WILL EVENTUALLY HAVE TO SAY YES TO SOMETHING THAT WE REALLY DO NOT WANT AT ALL.
AND THIS IS A, THIS IS A BUSINESS THAT FRANKLY, WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR DON'T LIKE IT, I MEAN, I LIVE ON THAT SIDE.
STARBUCKS ON THE OTHER SIDE IS USED BY A LOT OF PEOPLE IN BERNIE.
AND IT'S NOT OUR CHOICE OR OUR PLACE TO SAY WHETHER THE PUBLIC DOES OR DOESN'T LIKE A BUSINESS.
SO, I MEAN, THAT'S SORT OF ALL I GOTTA SAY.
BUT I MEAN, I WANNA MAKE SURE PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THAT ALL OF THE ISSUES THAT WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT HAVE REALLY BEEN ADDRESSED.
I HAVE NEVER SEEN A QUEUE WITH 33 CARS IN IT FOR A COFFEE SHOP UNLESS THEY'RE GIVEN SOME PROMOTION.
YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I'VE NEVER SEEN THAT JUST ON A ROUTINE DAY.
EVEN AT, EVEN WHEN THE CAFFEINE IS REALLY LOW AT THREE IN THE AFTERNOON OR AT SEVEN IN THE MORNING.
I'VE NEVER SEEN 33 CARS LINED UP IN A QUEUE.
SO, I MEAN, I HAVE A LOT OF MISGIVINGS.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, AT THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING I TABLED THIS 'CAUSE I WAS NOT HAPPY WITH A LOT OF IT, BUT THINGS HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED IN MY OPINION.
THE LAND PURCHASE, IS IT CONTINGENT ON THIS? OR WHAT I'M TRYING TO ASK IS, IS THIS ENTIRE LAND BEING PURCHASED NOW OR IS THIS OTHER PIECE JUST SITTING OUT THERE WAITING? BECAUSE A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT YOU'VE TALKED ABOUT ARE CONNECTED TO THAT PIECE OF LAND.
UH, THE, THE PHASE TWO WON'T HAPPEN IF UNLESS PHASE ONE HAPPENS FIRST.
BUT IS THAT A COMMITMENT? I'M GONNA, I MEAN, I'M ASKING A DIFFICULT QUESTION.
I KNOW, BUT I MEAN, IT KIND OF TIES TOGETHER BECAUSE SOME OF THE THINGS YOU'VE PROPOSED ARE TIED TO THAT.
AND SO I UNDERSTAND YOUR POINT.
BUT YEAH, I HAVE IT UNDER CONTRACT.
I'VE ALL INTEND TO DEVELOP IT.
UM, YOU KNOW, I'D LOVE TO, I'VE CREATED A LOT OF SYNERGY HERE AND CREATED VALUE BY DOING THE FIRST PHASE.
IT WOULD BE, UM, HARD TO WALK AWAY FROM PHASE TWO AFTER SETTING THE STAGE WITH, YOU KNOW, THE FOUNDATION AND CREATING THAT VALUE.
UM, YEAH, SO, AND UH, I HAVE A COMMITMENT, I'VE ALREADY TOLD NATHAN THAT, YOU KNOW, WITH PHASE TWO, UH, I WILL DO THE POCKET PARK.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WILL COME IN THAT PHASE.
UM, BUT, UH, YEAH, THANK YOU ALL FOR MEETING TONIGHT AND, AND GIVEN THIS SOME MORE THOUGHT, UM, I CAN SEE YOU GUYS HAVE PUT A LOT OF THOUGHT AND IT MEANS A LOT TO HAVE SOMETHING DONE RIGHT IN YOUR COMMUNITY.
UM, I HOPE YOU SEE THAT I'VE PUT THE SAME FROM MY SIDE INTO THIS PROJECT.
YOU KNOW, I SPENT THE, THE, THE FRONT SIDE OF THIS DOING A LOT OF LISTENING AND, AND ASKING WHAT THE COMMUNITY WANTS.
AND WHAT I HEARD IS, IS HIGH QUALITY CONSTRUCTION, GOOD QUALITY ARCHITECTURE, GOOD MATERIALS, ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY, UM, IN ADDITION TO THAT, CREATING, UH, SPACES FOR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT FOR PEOPLE TO GET TOGETHER WITH THEIR NEIGHBORS, TO, TO TALK, TO MEET UP PLACES PEOPLE CAN RIDE, BIKES TO WALK TO.
AND I KNOW WE'RE NOT A SU IN A SUPER PEDESTRIAN, OR, I MEAN, THERE'S NOT A TON OF ROOFTOPS AROUND US, BUT, UM, THERE ARE DEFINITELY, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE APARTMENTS TO THE NORTH.
THERE'S FUTURE TOWN HOMES ANTICIPATED COMING IN.
WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, MULTIFAMILY SIDE TO THE SOUTH.
SO I THINK FOR THE PEOPLE THAT CAN COME HERE, WE'LL DEFINITELY MAKE IT EASILY ACCESSIBLE FOR PEDESTRIAN AND BICYCLE TRAFFIC.
AND SO, SO ABSOLUTELY ON THE, THE QUESTION THAT CAME UP ON THE SIDEWALKS, UM, YEAH, WE'LL, WE'LL FURTHER REFINE ALL OF OUR SIDEWALKS AND MAKE SURE THERE'S WALKABLE CONNECTIVITY BETWEEN THE SITES AND THE PARKS.
AND I THINK WHAT WE JUST THREW OUT HERE IS A, A RUDIMENTARY SITE PLAN JUST TO, TO GET THINGS GOING.
BUT YEAH, WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT IT FUNCTIONS REALLY WELL.
YOU KNOW, IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE, WE HAVE BICYCLE PARKING AND ON SITE, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING THAT I, I DON'T THINK WAS MENTIONED, BUT WE, WE WERE PLANNING FOR THAT IN, IN THE, IN THE PLANS HERE.
SO, UM, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE SOME FEW THINGS I WANT TO ADDRESS.
UH, IF, IF YOU'D LIKE ME TO TALK ABOUT WITH THE, THE, THE, THE CARS, THE VEHICLE COUNT, THE, THE RIDE AND RIDE OUT.
I KNOW THAT THOSE ARE ITEMS THAT ARE SORT OF, I THINK, FRONT OF MIND OF EVERYBODY IF YOU GUYS WANT TO HEAR A FEW THOUGHTS ON IT.
SO I, I DO FEEL BAD FOR THE WRITE IN, WRITE OUT FOR SOME REASON IT SEEMS TO HAVE GOT A REALLY BAD WRAP.
UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, FROM MY EXPERIENCE AS A DEVELOPER AND TALKING THROUGH TRAFFIC ENGINEERS WHO SPECIALIZE IN IT, IT IS A, A VERY GOOD TOOL FOR, UM, FOR SERVING TRAFFIC FLOW AND MAKING IT FAST AND EFFICIENT FOR PEOPLE GETTING OUT.
AND, AND AS WE PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED, YOU HAVE A RIGHT IN, RIGHT OUT RIGHT HERE AT CITY HALL.
AND SO I'D ASK YOU LIKE, WOULD YOU AT ANY POINT DECIDE TO REMOVE OR REVOKE THAT AND JUST COME IN THROUGH THE CUL-DE-SAC AREA AS YOU'RE PROPOSING HERE? IT'S A GOOD TOOL BECAUSE, UH, THERE, THERE'S SEVERAL COMPONENTS OF IT THAT I WANT TO BRING UP AND SOME THAT MAYBE WERE NOT ADDRESSED IN THE FIRST MEETING.
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SO ESPECIALLY WITH ADDITION OF THE DE CELL LANE, AND AGAIN, THE DE CELL LANE IS SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, AS COUNCILMAN MACALUSO MENTIONED, IS WE'RE, WE'RE PROPOSING TO, TO COMMIT TO DOING THAT IN RETURN FOR THE SUP.IF SOMETHING'S PROVIDED ON THE SITE THAT THAT DOESN'T NEED SUP, THERE'S NO REASON FOR THEM TO PUT IN THE DESAL LANE.
NOW THE DESAL LANE FOR A TRAFFIC STANDPOINT, IT, IT'S REALLY GOING TO HELP, UH, HER FLOW WITH, WITH THE TRAFFIC.
BECAUSE IF YOU THINK ABOUT IF SOMEONE'S PULLING INTO A CUL-DE-SAC, UH, LOCATION, WHICH IS THE OTHER ENTRY POINTS, IT'S 35 MILE TRAFFIC.
SO WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN TO THAT CAR? THEY'RE GONNA SLOW DOWN TO, TO 10 OR 15 MILES AN HOUR, AND BEFORE THEY MAKE THE RIGHT HAND TURN IN, AND THAT'S GONNA LEAD TO THE CAR BEHIND THAT CAR SLOWING DOWN THE CAR BEHIND THAT AS A RIPPLE EFFECT.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S GOING TO AFFECT ALL THE TRAFFIC BEHIND.
AND THEN EVENTUALLY THOSE CARS SPEED UP AND THEN THE NEXT CAR'S PULLING INTO THE CUL-DE-SAC.
WELL, WITH THIS RIDE IN, RIDE OUT WITH A DESAL, IT ALLOWS SOMEONE TO PULL OFF IN THE TAPER AND ESSENTIALLY DO ALL THE DECELERATION IN THE DESAL LANE, HENCE THE TRAFFIC FLOW ON HEAR F IS UNIMPEDED.
AND IF ANYTHING, IF, IF, IF, IF TRAFFIC FLOW ON HEAR F IS A IS A TRUE CONCERN, I THINK THE RIDE IN RIDE WITH A DESAL LANE SHOULD BE A PRIORITY.
IT SHOULD BE SOMETHING YOU'D BE ASKING FOR REQUESTING VERSUS LEAVING IT WITH JUST, UH, THE CUL-DE-SAC.
THE SECOND THING THAT, THAT PEOPLE DON'T SOMETIMES THINK ABOUT, THINK ABOUT IF THIS RIDE AND RIDE OUT WAS NOT HERE AND A CAR WAS LEAVING THROUGH THE CUL-DE-SAC, AND LET'S SAY THERE'S THREE OR FOUR CARS LINE UP TO LEAVE AND THE VERY FIRST CAR WANTS TO TURN LEFT, THAT CAR MAY WAIT 30, 60, 90 SECONDS TO FIND A GAP, ESPECIALLY IN PEAK HOUR TO EVENTUALLY GO LEFT.
AND ALL THE THREE CARS BEHIND WERE WANTING TO GO, RIGHT? AND THEY HAD TO WAIT THAT LONG, AND NOW THERE'S MORE CARS BACKED UP WITH THE RIGHT AND RIGHT OUT, THEY CAN GET THOSE IMMEDIATE EXITS OUT WITHOUT HAVING TO WAIT FOR THE CAR IN FRONT OF THEM TO TURN LEFT.
IT'S A VERY GOOD TOOL FOR GETTING TRAFFIC FLOW BACK OUT ONTO THE STREET.
AND THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WERE NOT BROUGHT UP PREVIOUSLY.
UH, SO I THINK IT, IT'S A REALLY GOOD TOOL AND I, I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF, FOR SOME REASON, A LOT OF ANIMOSITY AGAINST HAVING IT.
BUT I THINK IF, IF TRAFFIC FLOW IS A CONCERN OF HEAR FI DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO OVERLOOK THE FACT THAT IT ACTUALLY IS SOMETHING THAT, THAT WILL HELP THE FLOW AND SMOOTH IT OUT.
UM, THE, THE OTHER THING WHICH WAS CORRECTED TODAY, WHICH I APPRECIATE, UM, THERE WERE REFERENCES, WHICH I TALKED TO NATE ABOUT IN THE LAST MEETING, THAT, THAT EVERYONE WAS SAYING THERE'S 23 OR 25,000 CARS A DAY ON HERF ROAD, UM, WHERE ALL OF OUR DATA INDICATED 13,000.
SO ALMOST HALF THAT 12,000 LESS PER DAY.
UM, SO WE WENT THROUGH THE DATA AND, AND IT WAS 13,000 A DAY.
SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE WERE MAKING, UH, DECISIONS ON THE TRAFFIC BASED ON THE CORRECT DATA, UM, FROM, FROM WHAT WE HAD AND WHAT WE WERE PLANNING ON.
UM, SO THOSE ARE JUST SOME OF THE, THE BIG ITEMS THAT I WANTED TO TOUCH ON.
AND, UM, AND I'D LIKE TO, YOU KNOW, OPEN UP FOR, FOR ANY QUESTIONS IF ANYBODY HAS QUESTIONS FOR ME.
MORE DISCUSSION FROM COUNSEL? NO.
CAN WE GET A MOTION? COUNCILMAN SCOTT? I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE, THAT WE APPROVE, UH, ORDINANCE NUMBER 2025 DASH ZERO SEVEN, UM, AS STATED WITH THE FOLLOWING, UM, CONTING CONTINGENCIES, UM, AS STATED ON THE SUP MEMORANDUM THAT WE ARE PROVIDED.
UM, DO I NEED TO READ EACH ONE OF THOSE? MM-HMM
UH, YES, YOU WOULD JUST, IF YOU COULD DO THE WHOLE HIGHLIGHTED.
OR YOU DON'T HAVE TO READ THE WHOLE THING.
ALRIGHT, SO ONE, THAT THE PLAN, PLAN CONFORMANCE NUMBER TWO IS SECONDARY ACCESS.
UH, NUMBER THREE, THE DECELERATION LANE NUMBER FOUR, THE DIRECTIONAL SIGNAGE, FIVE, THE LANDSCAPE PLAN NUMBER SIX, THE HVA AC AND RAINWATER COLLECTION.
NUMBER SEVEN, THE HERF ROAD LANDSCAPING, AND NUMBER EIGHT, THE HANDICAP PARKING SECOND FROM COUNCILOR OLSON.
[C. CONSIDER ON FIRST READING ORDINANCE NO. 2025-08; AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE CITY OF BOERNE, TEXAS, CODE OF ORDINANCES, CHAPTER 22, UTILITIES, AMENDING ARTICLE II. WATER SYSTEM, SEC. 22-55. CRITERIA FOR INITIATION AND TERMINATION OF DROUGHT RESPONSE STAGES (EXCEPT WHEN A CRITICAL WATER SHORTAGE EXISTS); SEC. 22-56. DROUGHT RESPONSE STAGES. (TCEQ Mandated Drought Contingency Plan Update)]
TO AGENDA ITEM FIVE C 2025 DASH 2 35.CONSIDER A FIRST READING ORDINANCE NUMBER 2025 DASH ZERO EIGHT IN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE CITY OF BERNIE, TEXAS CODE ORDINANCES CHAPTER 22, UTILITIES AMENDING ARTICLE THREE, WATER SYSTEM SECTION 22 DASH 55, CRITERIA FOR INITIATION
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TERMINATION, DROUGHT RESPONSE STAGES, EXCEPT WHEN A CRITICAL WATER STORAGE EXISTS.SECTION 20 20 22 DASH FIVE SIX, DROUGHT RESPONSE STAGES.
TCEQ, MANDATED DROUGHT CONSISTENCY PLAN UPDATE PRESENTING ANDREA SNO OR ANDREA.
GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
UH, TONIGHT WE ARE ASKING YOU TO CONSIDER APPROVAL OF UPDATES TO THE CITY'S CONSERVATION AND EMERGENCY DROUGHT MANAGEMENT ORDINANCE.
UH, WE ARE BRINGING THESE ORDINANCE, UH, THESE UPDATES TO YOU, UH, TONIGHT.
UH, MORE OF A HOUSEKEEPING ITEM.
UH, TCEQ AND GBRA ARE REQUIRING, UH, THESE UPDATES TO OUR ORDINANCE.
UH, THESE UPDATES ARE IN, UM, ALIGNED WITH, UH, THE CITY OF BERNIE STRATEGY MAP, UTILIZING DATA TO DRIVE SMART DECISION MAKING AND ADVANCING MASTER PLAN RECOMMENDATIONS, DROUGHT CONTINGENCY PLAN.
UH, OUR, UH, CONSERVATION AND EMERGENCY DROUGHT MANAGEMENT ORDINANCE IS ALSO KNOWN AS OUR DROUGHT CONTINGENCY PLAN IN THE EYES OF TCEQ AND GBRA.
SO YOU'RE GONNA HEAR, UH, DROUGHT CONTINGENCY PLAN, UH, THROUGHOUT THE PRESENTATION.
UH, OUR CURRENT CONSERVATION AND AND RESTRICTIONS ARE, ARE EFFECTIVE.
UH, THESE UPDATES ARE, ARE DRIVEN BY TCEQ AND GBRA MORE AS, UH, FOR REGULATORY CONSISTENCY.
THE, UH, FIRST ITEM REQUIRED BY TCEQ, UH, IS THEY WANT US TO ADD QUANTIFIED TRIGGER CRITERIA FOR THE INITIATION AND TERMINATION OF OUR DROUGHT STAGES.
UM, AS YOU ARE AWARE, WE HAVE FOUR, UH, DROUGHT STAGES AND WE ARE CURRENTLY IN STAGE TWO.
UH, SO WE HAVE ADDED THIS TRIGGER CRITERIA TO OUR PLAN, UH, TO SATISFY THAT, UH, REQUIREMENT.
UH, ITEM NUMBER TWO, UH, WATER DEMAND REDUCTION.
UH, THEY, AGAIN ARE, UH, SPEC ONE US TO SPECIFY IFIED TARGETS FOR WATER USE REDUCTIONS, UH, TO BE ACHIEVED DURING PERIODS OF WATER SHORTAGE AND, UH, DROUGHT.
SO WE'VE INCLUDED THOSE PERCENTAGE GOALS, UH, PER STAGE, UH, FOR THE WATER DEMAND REDUCTION ITEM.
UH, AND UH, LASTLY, UM, T CQS ARE REQUIRING US TO ADD PROCEDURES FOR GRANTING, UH, VARIANCES.
OUR CURRENT ORDINANCE PROVIDES INFORMATION, UH, ABOUT CONSIDERING GRANTING SPECIAL PERMIT REQUEST, UM, BUT IT JUST DOESN'T CONTAIN THE WORD VARIANCE.
UH, TCEQ IS REQUIRING US TO USE THE WORD VARIANCE, UH, IN THIS, UH, SECTION OF OUR ORDINANCE.
AND SO WE'VE BASICALLY JUST CHANGED THE WORD PERMIT TO VARIANCE IN THIS SECTION.
AND FOR THE GBRA REQUIRED INFORMATION FOR OUR DCP OR DROUGHT CONTINGENCY PLAN.
UH, FIRST ITEM, THEY JUST WANT US TO DESIGNATE A DROUGHT COORDINATOR AND OUR PLAN.
SO WE HAVE DESIGNATED OUR UTILITIES REGULATORY SERVICES ADMINISTRATOR AS THIS, UH, POSITION, THIS DROUGHT COORDINATOR.
UH, NUMBER TWO, MONTHLY DISTRIBUTION.
UH, WE ARE NOT CHANGING OUR, OUR ANNUAL ALLOTMENT WITH GBRA.
UH, EVERYTHING IS STAYING THE SAME.
SO WE ARE JUST SIMPLY, UH, REITERATING IN THIS SECTION THAT WE ARE, UM, THAT WE, OUR MONTHLY DISTRIBUTION WILL BE ONE 12TH OF OUR ANNUAL COMMITMENT PER MONTH.
UH, LAST ITEM, THEY WOULD LIKE US TO, UH, OUTLINE CURTAILMENT MEASURES, WHICH ARE ALREADY INCLUDED IN OUR DROUGHT CONTINGENCY PLAN ALREADY.
UH, SO WE, AGAIN, JUST REITERATE IN THIS SECTION FOR GBRA THAT WE WILL REDUCE CONSUMPTION BY ENFORCING OUR DROUGHT RESTRICTIONS, UH, WHEN NEEDED.
AND, UH, LASTLY, WE, UH, PROVIDED A HARD COPY OF, UH, THE ORDINANCE, UH, IN FRONT OF YOU TONIGHT.
UH, WE JUST MADE ONE SMALL CHANGE.
WE MOVED THIS GBRA SECTION FROM THE 2256 SECTION TO THE 22 DASH 55 SECTION.
WE JUST FELT IT, IT WAS A BETTER PLACE TO, TO PUT THIS INFORMATION.
I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL COUNCILMAN SCOTT? SO DO ANY OF THESE NEW MODIFICATIONS TO THE TRIGGERS? WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT THE LAKE LEVEL OUT AT BERNIE CANYON LAKE AND BERNIE, WOULD THIS PUT US INTO STAGE THREE NOW? SO MIKE, YOU WANNA
UM, THE, THE WAY WE'VE ALWAYS IMPLEMENTED OUR STAGES IS, IS WHEN WE HAVE TROUBLE MEETING DEMAND WITH THE PRODUCTION THAT WE HAVE.
AND BECAUSE WE HAVE MULTIPLE, UH, SOURCES OF PRODUCTION, IT'S A VERY COMPLICATED WAY TO LOOK AT IT.
WE DON'T HAVE 99% GROUNDWATER AND ONE WELL TO WATCH.
WE HAVE THREE PORTABLE WATER SOURCES AND RECLAIM.
SO THEY CAN, THEY CAN, FOR INSTANCE, RIGHT NOW WE'RE CURTAILED ON WATER FROM, UH, WELLS COW CREEK'S PERMIT, BUT WE'RE NOT CURTAILED BY G-G-B-R-A AND OUR WELLS ARE PRODUCTIVE, UH, UP TO THE POINT WHERE, WHERE WE CAN PUMP THEM.
OUR LAKE HAS NOT CURTAILED AT ALL.
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WE TRIED TO MAKE THAT POINT TO THE TCEQ AND THEY SAID, WE NEED YOU, WE NEED TO BE CONSISTENT WITH ALL DROUGHT CONTINGENCY PLANS THROUGHOUT THE STATE.YOU MUST HAVE TRIGGERS, BUT YOU CAN USE THE WORD MAY.
AND SO THE WORD MAY IS IN EVERY ONE OF THOSE, IF THESE CRITERIA ARE MET, WHICH I DON'T THINK THE STARS WILL EVER ALIGN COMPLETELY, LIKE THOSE CRITERIA, UH, READ.
BUT IF WE ARE NOT HAVING PROBLEM MEETING DEMAND, WE DON'T, WE ARE NOT BOUND TO ADVANCED STAGES.
SO ESSENTIALLY DEMAND IS WHAT RE EXCEEDING THE DEMAND IS WHAT REALLY THE TRIGGER.
IF WE TYPICALLY, AND OVER THE YEARS WE'VE ADVANCED DROUGHT STAGES, DROUGHT RESTRICTION STAGES WHEN WE THOUGHT OUR CUSTOMER DEMAND WAS GOING TO OUTPACE OUR PRODUCTION CAPABILITY FOR WHATEVER REASON.
RIGHT? AND, AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO DO THAT, BUT WE DID NEED TO INCLUDE SOME TRIGGERS IN THE PLAN TO SATISFY THE REGULATORY REQUIREMENTS.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? OKAY.
CAN I GET A MOTION, MOTION FOR COUNCILMAN BUNKER? NOW MOVE.
WE APPROVE ON FIRST READING ORDINANCE NUMBER 20 25 0 8, AND ORDINANCE AMENDING THE CITY OF BURN, TEXAS CODE OF ORDINANCE CHAPTER 22, UTILITIES AMENDING ARTICLE TWO, WATER SYSTEMS SECTION 22 DASH 55, CRITERIA FOR INITIATION DETERMINATION OF DROUGHT RESPONSE STAGES, EXCEPT WHEN A CRITICAL WATER SHORTAGE EXISTS.
SECTION 2256, DROUGHT RESPONSE STAGES.
TCEQ, MANDATED DROUGHT CONTINGENCY PLAN UPDATE.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN WILLISTON, PLEASE VOTE.
[D. FIRE STATION #2 PROJECT DESIGN UPDATE.]
ON TO AGENDA ITEM FIVE D 2025 DASH 2 78, FIRE STATION NUMBER TWO, PROJECT DESIGN UPDATE.I'M GONNA CALL ON DANNY AND MANNY TO, TO GIVE US AN UPDATE.
GENTLEMEN, DANNY AND MANNY, I LIKE THAT.
COUNSEL, WE'RE EXCITED THIS EVENING TO, UH, TO BRING TO YOU, UH, CULMINATION OF THE WORK THAT WE'VE HAD THIS LAST YEAR FROM THIS TEAM, THIS DESIGN TEAM.
AND I'M EXCITED TO SHARE, UH, WITH YOU, UH, KIND OF THAT PROCESS.
AND I, I'LL TELL YOU, IT'S, IT'S BEEN, UH, AN ENLIGHTENING PROCESS FOR ME.
UH, WE'VE ALL KIND OF, WE'VE PROBABLY ALL BEEN IN THAT SITUATION WHERE WE EITHER MEET SOMEBODY OR WE FIND OUT SOMEBODY WE KNOW HAS, HAS A HOBBY OR A PASSION, UH, THAT WE DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT.
AND WE MAKE THAT MISTAKE OF ASKING THEM THAT QUESTION THAT TRIGGERS 'EM INTO GOING INTO THIS, UH, RABBIT HOLE OF TELLING YOU ALL ABOUT IT.
AND THREE HOURS LATER YOU REALIZE YOU MADE THE MISTAKE.
YOUR EYES ARE GL GLAZED OVER, YOU'RE DOWN THIS RABBIT HOLE.
AND THAT'S HOW I FELT THE FIRST TIME WE MET WITH, WITH THIS DESIGN TEAM.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, I HAD THIS ASSUMPTION THAT A FIRE STATION'S JUST A SQUARE BUILDING, STICK SOME APPARATUS IN IT, HAVE A PLACE, UH, COTS FOR THEM TO SLEEP ON, AND WE'RE GOOD TO GO.
AND I, AND I TELL YOU, UM, IT HAS BEEN AN LIGHTNING PROCESS TO REALIZE, UH, THAT THIS, WHEN YOU'RE DESIGNING A MODERN FIRE STATION, UH, WHEN YOU'RE DESIGNING THIS FACILITY, YOU GOTTA TAKE SO MANY THINGS INTO CONSIDERATION.
UH, THIS IS FIRST AND FOREMOST, UH, AN INDUSTRIAL BUILDING.
THESE FIREFIGHTERS ARE GOING OUT INTO SITUATIONS.
THEY'RE BRINGING APPARATUS, THEY'RE BRINGING GEAR, THEY'RE BRINGING EQUIPMENT BACK THAT'S BEEN SUBJECT, UH, TO TOXIC ENVIRONMENTS SOMETIMES.
AND THEY HAVE TO HAVE THE ABILITY TO SEPARATE THAT AND DETOX THAT BEFORE THEY THEN MOVE INTO THEIR LIVING QUARTERS, THE SPACE THAT THEY'RE PREPARING THEIR MEALS AND EATING THEIR MEALS IN THAT THEY'RE STUDYING, THAT THEY'RE TRAINING IN, THAT THEY'RE SLEEPING IN THAT EVENING.
AND THEN ON TOP OF THAT, WE HAVE, UH, A PUBLIC SPACE IN THE FRONT OF THIS WHERE WE INVITE THE PUBLIC.
AND IN THIS CASE, WE SAID, HEY, WE WANT YOU TO, TO, UH, PROVIDE SOME SPACE FOR AN EXTENSION OF OUR LIBRARY.
AND WE WANT TO CREATE SOME SPACE, SOME MEETING ROOM SPACE THAT WE KNOW WE HAVE A GREAT NEED FOR.
UH, AS, AS CHIEF AND THE GUYS WERE WORKING THROUGH THIS, AND THEY LOOKED AT THE NEED THAT WE HAVE FOR TRAINING AS WE'RE GOING THROUGH, UM, LOOKING AT THE NEEDS THAT WE HAVE AS A FIRE DEPARTMENT SPACE THAT FOR TRAINING IS WOVEN INTO THIS, THIS DESIGN THAT YOU'LL SEE, UH, AS CHIEF GOES THROUGH THIS TONIGHT AND BUILT INTO EVERY KIND OF SQUARE SPACE THAT WE HAVE IN HERE BECAUSE IT'S SUCH AN IMPORTANT NEED.
AND THEN ON TOP OF THAT, WE SAID, HEY, NOT ONLY DO WE WANT YOU TO, TO FOLLOW OUR POLICIES, BUT WE WANT THIS TO BE AN EXAMPLE.
WE WANT THIS TO BE AN EXAMPLE FOR OTHER DEVELOPERS THAT COME IN ABOUT US LOOKING AT ONE WATER, LOOKING AT LID LOOKING AT, I THINK THIS MAY BE THE ONLY, OR THE FIRST BUILDING THAT WE HAVE THAT'S NOT ON OUR ELECTRIC.
IS THAT THE CASE? DO WE HAVE OTHER BUILDINGS? UH, WE HAVE SOME TROUBLE.
I KNOW THERE'S, THERE'S VERY FEW.
THIS IS NOT ON OUR ELECTRIC SYSTEM.
AND SO WE LOOKED AT THE POSSIBILITY OF WHAT DOES SOLAR LOOK LIKE? WHAT DOES RAIN CATCHMENT LOOK LIKE? WHAT DOES HVAC RECAPTURE LOOK LIKE? WHAT DOES ONE WATER LOOK LIKE? ALL OF THOSE THINGS, UH, WE PUT INTO THIS FACILITY.
AND I, I JUST WANT TO, UH, TELL YOU THAT THESE GUYS HAVE DONE AN AMAZING JOB IN THIS LAST YEAR.
AND I'M GONNA TURN THIS OVER TO CHIEF SO HE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT.
AND HE'S GONNA TALK ABOUT THAT PROCESS.
LET ME BACK OFF OF THAT, MIKE.
HE'S GONNA TELL YOU ABOUT THAT PROCESS AND THE MAKEUP
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OF THAT DESIGN TEAM.AND THEN HE IS GONNA SHOW YOU THE RESULT OF THAT PROCESS OF TALKING ABOUT THE PROGRAMMING, TALKING ABOUT THE NEEDS THAT WE HAVE AND, AND ALL OF THE SPACE REQUIREMENTS, UH, THAT WE HAVE TO CREATE THIS FACILITY.
AND THEN HE IS GONNA OUT OUTLINE WHAT, WHAT ARE THE NEXT STEPS HERE? HERE'S WHAT THE, THE PROBABLE COSTS ARE AND WHAT ARE THOSE NEXT STEPS AND WHEN AND WHAT THAT TIMELINE LOOKS LIKE, UH, THAT WE CAN EXPECT THAT WE SEE THIS BUILDING, UM, GO OUT TO BID.
AND WHEN WE SEE THIS BUILDING, UH, FINALLY BREAK GROUND.
UM, SO WITH THAT, I'LL TURN OVER TO CHIEF AND I'LL LET HIM GO THROUGH THAT.
LIKE DANNY SAID, WE ARE EXCITED TONIGHT TO PRESENT THIS PROJECT UPDATE TO YOU ON, ON FIRE STATION NUMBER TWO DESIGN.
IT'S BEEN, UH, ABOUT 11 MONTHS OF HARD WORK.
NOT BY ME, BUT BY THE ENTIRE TEAM, BY THE ENTIRE COMMITTEE.
WE'VE, WE'VE PUT TOGETHER AN INTENTIONAL COMMITTEE OF FIRE DEPARTMENT STAFF, FACILITY STAFF, IT STAFF, AND ANYBODY WE CAN THINK OF THAT WAS GONNA HAVE A HAND IN, IN PROVIDING GOOD FEEDBACK INTO, INTO HOW WE WERE GONNA DESIGN THIS BUILDING.
AND THAT COUPLED WITH AN AMAZING ARCHITECTURAL FIRM THAT WE SELECTED HAS MADE IT A, A GREAT PROCESS FOR US.
THERE WAS A TIME IN THESE 11 MONTHS THAT WE HAD TO PIVOT 'CAUSE WE JUST WEREN'T KNOCKING IT OUTTA THE PARK IN OUR EYES.
AND I THINK HAVING THIS AMAZING TEAM SEE THAT IN EACH OTHER'S EYES, SAID, OKAY, WE NEED TO TAKE A TIME OUT.
IT'S GOING TO PROBABLY CAUSE A DELAY OF ABOUT THREE MONTHS FOR US TO, TO FIX WHAT WE THINK IS IT.
IT WASN'T HORRIBLE BY ANY MEANS, BUT WE JUST DIDN'T FEEL LIKE IT WAS EXACTLY WHAT WE WANTED YET.
SO HERE WE ARE TODAY AND WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT WHERE, WHERE WE LANDED.
AND SO I'M, I'M EXCITED TO SHARE THIS WITH YOU.
SO LIKE WITH ANY OTHER PROJECT, WE, UH, WE, WE TRIED TO TIE EVERYTHING ABOUT THIS PROJECT TO ALIGN WITH OUR STRATEGY MAP.
AND AS YOU CAN SEE, WE'VE PRETTY MUCH HIT EVERY, EVERY ASPECT OF THIS STRATEGY MAP.
SO WE STARTED THIS PROCESS BY HAVING, OF COURSE, WE, WE HIRED OUR ARCHITECT, AND I'LL GET INTO THAT HERE SHORTLY.
BUT WE WANTED TO HAVE GUIDING PRINCIPLES LEADING US INTO WHAT WE WERE GONNA DO DURING THE DESIGN PROCESS.
AND WHAT WE SETTLED ON AFTER DELIBERATING ALL DAY LONG AND TALKING ABOUT WHAT OUR PRIORITIES SHOULD BE AND WHERE OUR FOCUS SHOULD BE, WAS FUTURE PROOFING.
FIRST AND FOREMOST, WE WANTED TO HAVE A BUILDING THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING THAT WAS AN AFTERTHOUGHT.
ONCE THE BUILDING WAS DONE, WE SAID WE SHOULD'VE, COULD'VE WOULD'VE.
SO WE TOOK A LOT OF TIME TRYING TO FUTURE PROOF THIS BUILDING.
AND ALONG WITH THAT, FUTURE PROOFING CAME DISCUSSIONS ABOUT SUSTAINABILITY, UH, DISCUSSIONS ABOUT, UH, JUST BEING ENVIRONMENTALLY FOCUSED WITH THIS BUILDING.
LIKE DANNY TALKED ABOUT, THERE WERE A LOT OF, OF ONE WATER INITIATIVES.
THERE'S A NET ZERO, UH, DISCUSSION.
WE, WE REALLY TOOK EVERYTHING INTO ACCOUNT THAT WE, THAT WE COULD POSSIBLY DO.
AND THEN OF COURSE, WE STUDIED IT TO SEE WHAT THE RETURN ON INVESTMENT WOULD BE, AND WE MADE DECISIONS ACCORDINGLY.
UH, WE ALSO HAD FLEXIBILITY BUILT INTO THIS FUTURE PROOFING IDEA AND COMFORT.
OF COURSE, THIS IS GONNA BE A LIVING, LIVING SPACE FOR THESE FIREFIGHTERS THAT ARE WORKING 48 HOUR SHIFTS.
SO COMFORT WAS, WAS A BIG ONE.
AND REALLY JUST CREATING CREATIVE USE OF SPACE.
ANY, ANYWHERE WE CAN THINK OF THAT WE CAN INJECT SOMETHING THAT WE DIDN'T WANT TO, TO BE AN AFTERTHOUGHT, WE WOULD INJECT THAT IDEA INTO HERE.
AND THEN ULTIMATELY SAW IT ALL COME TOGETHER.
AND THEN SAFETY, OF COURSE, TOP OF THAT LIST.
UH, THE NEXT GUIDING PRINCIPLE WAS FUNCTIONALITY.
WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE MEETING THE CURRENT NEEDS OF HOW WE RESPOND, BUT ALSO THINKING ABOUT WHAT THOSE FUTURE NEEDS WERE GONNA BE FOR US.
SO RIGHT SIZING THE SPACES, STUDYING THE SPACES THAT WE'RE IN NOW, OR IS IT ENOUGH? DO WE NEED MORE? IS IT TOO MUCH.
AND REALLY TAKING A ROOM BY ROOM APPROACH OF WHERE, WHERE WE'RE LIVING CURRENTLY AND DESIGNING, PUTTING THAT INTO THE DESIGN OF THIS STATION, EFFICIENCY, RE RELIABILITY, TOLERABILITY, ACCESS, AND OF COURSE, EQUIPMENT, LOCATIONS.
DOES, DO THE EQUIPMENT, LOCATIONS CURRENTLY WORK FOR US, OR DO WE NEED TO RETHINK THE WAY WE DO BUSINESS? AND THEN CULTURE, CULTURE WAS IMPORTANT TO US.
THIS, WE WANTED THIS TO BE A COMMUNITY FACING PROJECT.
UH, WE WANTED TO, TO CREATE A COMMUNITY HUB LIKE DANNY TALKED ABOUT, AND HAVING THAT COMMUNITY ROOM WHERE THE PUBLIC FELT WELCOME COMING INTO OUR STATION, IT WAS ON THE, THE CLEAN, WHAT WE CALL THE CLEAN SIDE OF THE HOUSE.
WE DIDN'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THE DECONTAMINATION SIDE OF THE HOUSE CROSSING OVER TO THAT.
SO WE HAD A SPACE WHERE, WHERE PUBLIC CAN COME IN, HAVE, UH, A FEATURE THAT WE'RE COLLABORATING WITH THE LIBRARY WITH, TO HAVE A KIOSK THERE TO PROVIDE SERVICES TO THE RESIDENTS OF THAT PART OF TOWN, UH, TO HAVE A BOOK DROP OUTSIDE AND JUST TO HAVE A MEETING SPACE THAT THAT COMMUNITY ROOM IS GONNA SERVE SO MANY DIFFERENT PURPOSES.
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UH, FOR NOT ONLY OUR FIREFIGHTERS TO HAVE A CLASSROOM, TO, TO HOST CLASSES AND TO TRAIN EACH OTHER IN, BUT TO HAVE A MEETING SPACE FOR THE PUBLIC.IF AN HOA WANTED TO COME IN AND, AND HAVE A MEETING, OR IF OUR PROGRAMMING WITH THE LIBRARY OR ANY OTHER DEPARTMENTS GREW, WE HAD A SPACE THAT THEY COULD COME IN AND UTILIZE.
AND SO THAT WAS REAL IMPORTANT TO US.
AND THEN THE, THE OTHER ASPECT THAT WE WANTED TO KIND OF BUILD INTO THIS WITHOUT GETTING CRAZY WITH THE IDEA WAS HAVING A BACKUP EMERGENCY OPERATIONS CENTER.
SO IF, IF WE NEEDED TO WORK IN TANDEM WITH OUR CURRENT EMERGENCY OPERATIONS CENTER, WE COULD DO THAT.
UM, IF WE, IF WE NEEDED A SPACE FOR, UH, ELECTED OFFICIALS TO GO IN AND, AND BE THOSE DECISION MAKERS WITHOUT CROSS CONTAMINATING INTO THE EMERGENCY OPERATIONS CENTER, WE HAD A SPACE FOR THAT.
AND SO IT'S, IT'S REALLY MULTIFUNCTIONAL WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THAT PART OF IT.
UM, THE EXTERIOR FIT, WE WANTED THIS TO BE TO, TO FIT THE CULTURE OF NOT ONLY THE ESPERANZA COMMUNITY, BUT THE CITY OF BERNIE.
THE BUILDINGS THAT WE HAVE, THE, THE BUILDING FEATURES AND BUILDING MATERIALS.
WE WANTED IT TO TRULY BE, UH, A ROLE MODEL AND A, AND A, UH, A MODEL BUILDING FOR FUTURE BUILDINGS HERE IN THE CITY OF BURNING.
SO SOME OF THOSE DESIGN FEATURES I'VE ALREADY COVERED WITH, UH, THE COMMUNITY ROOM.
UM, WE, WE TRIED TO, WE TRIED TO MIRROR WHAT WE HAVE CURRENTLY IN OUR TRAINING ROOM AND, AND HAD SORT OF A MIXTURE OF THE CITY HALL TRAINING ROOM WITHOUT GOING OVERBOARD.
WE KIND OF FOUND A, UH, A GOOD SWEET SPOT FOR THAT ROOM.
THE MUSEUM ROOM, WE HAVE A 1929 AMERICAN LA FRANCE FIRETRUCK THAT WE'VE, THAT WE'VE PRESERVED, THAT WE'VE TRIED TO, TO KEEP, UH, IN SERVICE.
IT STILL STARTS AND RUNS IN PARADES AND, AND IT'S, IT'S UNPROTECTED RIGHT NOW IN A, IN A, IN A MORGAN BUILDING.
AND SO WE, WE REALLY WANT TO, TO HAVE A, A PLACE FOR THAT TO PARK WHERE WE CAN PAY HOMAGE TO IT, ALONG WITH THE HISTORY OF THIS DEPARTMENT DATING BACK TO 1903.
SO THIS MUSEUM SPACE IS GONNA ALLOW US TO DO THAT.
HEALTH AND WELLNESS FEATURES WE'VE BUILT IN SO MANY DIFFERENT HEALTH AND WELLNESS FEATURES, NOT ONLY PHYSICAL, BUT MENTAL.
WE, WE WE'RE TRYING TO TAKE CARE OF THE MENTAL AND PHYSICAL WE WELLBEING OF OUR PERSONNEL.
AND THERE'S A LOT OF FEATURES IN THIS BUILDING THAT HAVE, UH, ALLOWED US TO DESIGN IT THAT WAY.
LIBRARY SERVICES, WE TALKED ABOUT A KIOSK, UH, IN THE LOBBY, AND SUSTAINABILITY FEATURES AS WELL.
WE, THIS IS TRULY A BIOPHILIC DESIGN AND EVERYTHING THAT WE DO, WE'RE TRYING TO BRING THE INSIDE OUT, BRING NATURE INTO THE BUILDING, CREATE A CALM SPACE FOR EVERYBODY TO, TO LIVE IN, IN THIS, IN THIS BUILDING.
AND LOOKED INTO DIFFERENT ONE WATER INITIATIVES.
UH, WE'VE DESIGNED BIOSWELLS THAT, THAT CAN TIE INTO THE ONE WATER CONCEPT OF THE ESPERANZA DEVELOPMENT.
AND WE DID IT IN A WAY THAT THAT IS GONNA MATCH NATURE.
IT'S NOT GONNA BE, IT'S NOT GONNA LOOK LIKE A COMMERCIAL, COMMERCIALLY DESIGNED, UH, FEATURE.
WE WE'RE USING A LOT OF THE NATIVE ROCK FROM ESPANZA, AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE ALLOWING US TO USE A LOT OF THAT NATIVE ROCK IN SOME OF THE PROJECTS IN AND AROUND THE BUILDING AS WELL.
AND THEN THE PART THAT WE, WE PIVOTED ON A LITTLE BIT WAS THE TRAINING FACILITY FEATURES.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE RIGHT SIDE OF THIS BUILDING, IT'S WHAT WE CALL THE DIRTY SIDE OF THE HOUSE.
IT'S WHERE WE DO ALL OF OUR DECONTAMINATION AND, AND, UH, GEAR, CLEAN LAUNDERING AND, AND GEAR STORAGE.
AND WE HAVE A WORKSHOP OVER ON THAT SIDE.
BUT RATHER THAN, THAN CARRY ON THE ROOF OVER TO THAT SIDE AND THEN HAVE DIFFERENT, HAVE A LOT OF WASTED SPACE, WE RECONFIGURED THE ROOF TO, TO JUST COVER THE APPARATUS BAY AND GAVE US SOME, SOME LEVELS OF, OF TRAINING ON THAT DIRTY SIDE OF THE HOUSE WHERE WE ADDED PAVERS TO THE ROOF, UH, ADDED SOME, SOME DIFFERENT LEVELS.
CREATED A CRAWL SPACE THAT WOULD'VE JUST BEEN UNUSED SPACE AND DESIGNED MANHOLE COVERS ON TOP OF THAT.
SO WE, WE THOUGHT OF EVERYTHING WE COULD THINK OF WITHOUT BREAK THE BANK.
OF COURSE, WE, UH, WE WANTED TO USE SPACE THAT WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN USED OTHERWISE AND CREATE MEANINGFUL AREAS TO TRAIN IN THIS BUILDING.
AND YOU'LL SEE SOME MORE OF THOSE FEATURES HERE AS WE, AS WE GO THROUGH.
SO THE PROGRESS TO DATE, WE STARTED OFF WITH AN RFQ AND THE SELECTION OF OUR ARCHITECT.
WE STARTED WITH 14 APPLICANTS THAT SUBMITTED THE RFQ.
WE NARROWED IT DOWN TO THE TOP SIX FIRMS AND ULTIMATELY SELECTED HEYER WILKER IN FEBRUARY OF LAST YEAR.
AND IT'S BEEN THE BEST DECISION THAT WE'VE, THAT WE'VE MADE.
AFTER THAT, WE GOT TO WORK AND THIS TIME LAST YEAR WITH AN ECOT THAT SOME OF YOU WERE A PART OF.
AND THAT'S WHERE WE REALLY, DESI, WE REALLY TALKED ABOUT WHAT THE PRIORITIES WOULD BE OF ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING SUSTAINABILITY RELATED, UH, NET ZERO, UH, ANYTHING WE CAN THINK OF TO TRY
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TO GIVE US SOME DIRECTION ON HOW WE WERE GONNA DESIGN THAT PART OF THE, OF THE PROJECT.AND THEN WE HAD THREE DAYS OF DESIGN CHARETTE WHERE SOME OF YOU WERE ALSO A PART OF.
AND WE HAD OUR WHOLE TEAM THERE IN THOSE THREE DAYS HERE AT CITY HALL, WORKING ALL DAY LONG, WORKING THROUGH LUNCH, JUST JUST BRAINSTORMING ON HOW WE CAN, HOW WE CAN DESIGN EVERY ASPECT OF THIS PROJECT.
AND IT WAS, IT WAS, UH, WELL WORTH THE THREE DAYS OF, OF EFFORT THERE.
AND THEN WE'VE ALSO HAD DESIGN DEVELOPMENT, UH, SCHEMATIC DESIGN WORKSHOPS, UH, MEETINGS WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT TO TRY TO, UH, MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE ALL IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE PROCESS AND EXTERIOR RE REVIEW WORKSHOPS.
AND THEN IT BROUGHT US TO WHERE WE'RE AT NOW WITH OUR CONCEPTUAL COST ESTIMATES.
SO CURRENTLY OUR CONCEPTUAL COST ESTIMATES ARE SHOWING THAT THE BUILDING HAS GOT A PROBABLE COST OF JUST OVER 15 AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS.
THE SITE PROBABLE COST, UH, WILL, IS LOOKING LIKE IT'S ABOUT THREE AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS.
AND THEN WE'VE WORKED IN CONTINGENCIES AND FEES THAT ARE ALSO INCLUDING ANY UNFORESEEN TARIFF ISSUES WE MIGHT ENCOUNTER AND INFLATION WITH THAT.
SO BRINGING US TO A, A COST ESTIMATE SO FAR OF $20 MILLION, 951,404.
NOW, ONE OF THE UNKNOWNS THAT WE STILL HAVE IS THAT ESPERANZA BOULEVARD IS GONNA NEED A LITTLE BIT OF REDESIGNING IN FRONT OF OUR STATION.
WE HAD, WE WERE TRYING TO GET THIS DESIGNED BY THE ENGINEER, UH, IN TIME TO HAVE AN ACTUAL COST ESTIMATE ON THAT PART OF IT.
WE DON'T HAVE IT CURRENTLY, BUT, UM, WE HAD SOMEONE UNFOR FORESEEN ISSUES WITH THE SITE, HAD TO, HAD TO SHIFT THE SITE A LITTLE BIT.
AND FORTUNATELY, WE WERE, WE WERE COLLABORATING WITH THE DEVELOPER FROM DAY ONE ON THIS PROJECT.
AND HAVING HIM THERE WAS, UH, WAS VERY HELPFUL TO, TO GIVE US A LITTLE BIT MORE AREA TO WORK WITH WITH THIS PROJECT.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE STILL WAITING ON THE ENGINEER TO DESIGN, TO REDESIGN THAT ESPERANZA BOULEVARD TO ALLOW FOR THOSE TURNS INTO THE, INTO THE PROPERTY.
AND AS SOON AS WE DO HAVE THAT COST ESTIMATE, YOU, YOU WILL HAVE THAT AS WELL.
SO HERE'S A LOOK AT THE FRONT OF THE STATION FROM ESPERANZA BOULEVARD.
WE'LL GET YOU A CLOSER LOOK HERE.
SO YOU HAVE THE, THE FRONT DOOR HERE, AND THEN TO THE LEFT OF THAT IS THE, THE HALLWAY THAT TAKES YOU INTO THAT COMMUNITY ROOM AND ALSO TO THE MUSEUM ROOM.
AS WE SHIFT OVER TO THE LEFT, YOU STILL JUST ANOTHER VIEW OF THAT MUSEUM PIECE.
AND NOW YOU COME INTO THE SECURED PART OF THE, OF THE PROPERTY WHERE WE HAVE THE, THE KITCHEN AREA LEADING OUT TO A COVERED PATIO.
AND THEN TO THE LEFT OF THAT, YOU'LL, YOU'LL SEE THE WALL FULL OF, UH, DORM ROOMS THAT, UH, THAT HAVE WINDOW ACCESS TO THE OUTSIDE THERE.
AND THEN TUCK BEHIND THAT TREE OVER TO THE LEFT OF THAT IS THE FITNESS ROOM.
WITH THE FITNESS ROOM, WE DIDN'T WANT TO GO TOO BIG JUST BECAUSE OF THE COST OF EVERYTHING.
SO WE DESIGNED IT IN A WAY THAT WE'D HAVE INDOOR OUTDOOR, SO WE CAN BRING, WE CAN BRING MORE FUNCTIONAL FITNESS, UH, INITIATIVES TO WHAT THE GUYS WERE DOING OUT IN, UM, AS THEY'RE PREPARING PHYSICALLY.
AND SO THE, WHAT YOU SEE HERE IS AN ARTIFICIAL TURF AREA WHERE THEY CAN WORK OUT, UH, ALL WEATHER INSIDE AND OUTSIDE.
AND THEN NOW YOU HAVE A, A DIFFERENT VIEW HERE OF THE, OF THE GYM.
AND THEN AS YOU SCROLL OVER TO THE LEFT, YOU SEE THE, THE BACK APPARATUS, BAY DOORS AND THE TRAINING COMPONENTS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT ARE ALL OVER HERE ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THIS BUILDING.
WHAT YOU SEE HERE IS A, A, A CINDER BLOCK STAIRWELL, ESSENTIALLY THAT THE, THAT THE CREWS CAN USE TO ADVANCE HOSE LINES UP.
THEY CAN CONNECT TO AN ARTIFICIAL STAMP PIPE THAT WILL ACTUALLY ALLOW 'EM TO PUMP WATER, UH, UP TO WHATEVER AREA THAT THEY WANT TO TRAIN IN, THAT YOU GET, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE ANCHOR POINTS WHERE THEY CAN REPEL OFF OF.
YOU CAN, YOU CAN SET LADDERS UP, UH, AND YOU'LL SEE SOME MORE FEATURES OF THIS AS I SCROLL OVER TO THE LEFT.
BUT YOU ALSO HAVE A SPACE HERE TO PARK THE RESCUE BOAT THAT'S COVERED.
IT'S NOT FULLY ENCLOSED, BUT WE WANTED TO PROVIDE A CO A COVERED AREA FOR THAT BOAT, UH, WITH ALSO A ROLLUP DOOR TO THE WORKSHOP.
SO IF WE DO HAVE INCLEMENT WEATHER WHERE WE NEED TO GET THAT MOTOR OUT OF THE, UH, OUT OF THE ELEMENTS, WE CAN JUST SIMPLY ROLL THAT BOAT INTO THE WORKSHOP.
AND NOW YOU START TO SEE THE AERIAL VIEWS OF THAT TRAINING SPACE AND HOW WE CAN UTILIZE WHAT WOULD'VE BEEN JUST UN UNUSED SPACE AND DESIGNED IT IN, IN A WAY THAT'LL BE USEFUL FOR US.
AND THESE WINDOWS YOU MIGHT SEE THAT ARE NOT REALLY SYMMETRICAL WHERE, WHERE THEY'RE AT, BUT THEY'RE, THEY'RE REALLY GONNA BE
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DESIGNED FOR TRAINING USE ONLY.SO THEY'LL BE TRAINING WINDOWS WHERE THE CREWS CAN PRACTICE VICTIM REMOVAL, UH, RESCUE, UH, REPELLING OUT OF A WINDOW, AND JUST A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF FEATURES THAT ARE BUILT INTO THIS SPACE HERE IN THIS GRASSY AREA HERE, WE'RE GOING TO DESIGN TO ALSO HAVE ARTIFICIAL TURF SO THAT WE HAVE A STABLE AREA FOR THE, FOR THE LADDERS TO BE USED NO MATTER WHAT THE CONDITION OF THE, OF THE GRASS IS.
AND I SEE THE INSIDE OF THE APPARATUS BAY, WE, WE'VE DESIGNED IT IN A WAY THAT THE, THE CEILING IS GONNA BE CLEAN.
YOU'RE NOT GONNA HAVE GARAGE DOORS PROTRUDING INTO THE BAY.
YOU'RE NOT GONNA HAVE, UH, A BUNCH OF, A BUNCH OF UNNECESSARY EQUIPMENT, UH, IN THE, IN THE CEILING WITHIN REASON AND JUST A CLEANER, CLEANER DESIGN.
THESE WINDOWS HERE ARE ALSO FOR USE, UH, FOR TRAINING USE IN THAT MEZZANINE SPACE THAT WE TALKED ABOUT.
AND IT'S JUST AN AERIAL VIEW OF EVERYTHING WE'VE GONE OVER HERE.
SO THIS JUST KIND OF GIVES YOU AN ANIMATION OF EVERYTHING THAT WE'VE DESIGNED.
ALL RIGHT, SO THE NEXT STEPS ARE, WE'RE WORKING WITH NATHAN AND HIS TEAM TO CREATE A TIMELINE FOR THE PLANNING PROCESS SO THAT WE CAN SET GOALS, UH, AGGRESSIVE GOALS MOVING FORWARD TO, TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR PLAN REVIEWS, PLAT REVIEWS ARE ALL DONE IN A TIMELY FASHION.
AND, AND WE CAN PROJECT WHEN WE WANT TO START CONSTRUCTION OR WHEN, WHEN WE ARE ABLE TO START CONSTRUCTION.
BUT WE'RE STILL WAITING ON FINALIZING THAT ROAD WORK DESIGN, LIKE I TALKED ABOUT, AND ALSO GETTING READY TO, TO OPEN UP BIDS FOR A GENERAL CONTRACTOR.
UM, SO WE'RE CURRENTLY PROJECTING THAT WE WILL BE ABLE TO START CONSTRUCTION LATE FALL, UH, HOPE HOPEFUL THAT BY OCTOBER WE CAN, WE CAN BREAK GROUND ON THIS FIRE STATION PROJECT.
YOU SAID YOU WANTED ME TO GO FOR THREE HOURS, DANNY
SO THAT IS OUR PROJECT UPDATE FOR FIRE STATION NUMBER TWO.
AND I'LL ENTERTAIN ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.
ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL PICKLEBALL DIDN'T MAKE IT.
THEY CAN PUT PICKLEBALL, NOT OFFICIALLY TEMPORARY COURTS.
THE DOORS YOU SAID ARE NOT ROLLUP.
ARE THOSE SWINGING DOORS? THOSE ARE GONNA BE FOURFOLD OPENING DOORS.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE A BEST PRACTICE FOR MODERN FIRE STATIONS.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE MORE EFFICIENT.
THEY OPEN, THEY OPEN A LOT QUICKER, AND THEY'RE SAFER.
YOU DON'T, YOU DON'T HAVE LIKE THE, THE ROLLUP DOORS CURRENTLY WHERE YOU GOTTA WAIT FOR THAT DOOR TO GO ALL THE WAY UP AND MAKE SURE YOU'RE CLEAR TO TAKE THAT FIRETRUCK OUT.
AND SO NOW THIS SHAVES OFF, UH, VALUABLE SECONDS TO JUST BE ABLE TO GET OUT THE DOOR QUICKER ON A EMERGENCY THAT'S NOW THREE AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS IN SITE COSTS.
WELL, THE CO THE LAND DIDN'T COST US ANYTHING AS IT WAS DONATED.
IS THAT FOR MOSTLY ROAD ROAD IMPROVEMENTS? UH, WHAT ASSOCIATED WITH THE THREE AND A HALF MILLION? SO WE'RE, WE'RE, WE HAVE A LOT OF UNKNOWNS WITH, WITH REGARDS TO THE TOPOGRAPHY, BUT WE'VE, UM, WE'VE JUST KIND OF ANTICIPATED WITH THE, THE CORE SAMPLES THAT WERE TAKEN AND, AND EVERYTHING TOPOGRAPHY AND HOW, UM, HOW MANY UNKNOWNS WE HAVE WITH THE, WITH THE STONE ON, ON HOW WE'RE GONNA DEVELOP THIS SITE.
AND SO WE'RE JUST KIND OF ESTIMATING THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE, UH, SIGNIFICANT SITE WORK.
YOU, YOU GOT SIGNIFICANT CUT AND FEEL.
SO IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT A CROSS SECTION OF THIS SIDE, IT'S THIS WAY.
SO IT'S GONNA HAVE TO BE CUT IN AND THAT SIDE DEVELOPED THAT WAY.
SO IT'S, IT'S A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF, UH, OKAY.
YOU JUST CAN'T, I WAS OUT THERE AT THE PROPERTY.
I JUST DIDN'T NOTICE THAT, KYLE, IT'S DECEIVING.
IF YOU LOOK RIGHT HERE IN THIS PICTURE BEHIND, YOU CAN SEE HOW IT SLOPES UP RIGHT BEHIND YOU.
I KNOW WHEN WE WERE DOING SOME OF THOSE ROUND TABLES, THE GUYS TALKED ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF LIKE THE TABLE, AND I'M ASSUMING THAT ASPECT STILL LIVES ON SOMEWHERE IN THERE.
AND, UH, YES, I GLOSSED OVER THAT PART, BUT, UM, TALKING ABOUT CULTURE, THAT WAS
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ONE OF THE, UH, THINGS WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE IN INSIDE OF THE BUILDING, WE, WE WANT TO, WE WANT THAT LIVING SPACE TO, TO BE A PART OF OUR FIRE SERVICE CULTURE.THAT KITCHEN TABLE, AS SILLY AS IT SOUNDS, IS ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT FEATURES OF A FIRE STATION.
ANYWHERE YOU GO, YOU, YOU WALK INTO A FIRE STATION AND THAT, THAT KITCHEN TABLE IS JUST, IS JUST THE CENTER OF EVERYTHING.
THAT'S WHERE THEY COME BACK AFTER A CALL AND DEBRIEF BAD CALLS.
UH, THAT'S WHERE THEY, THEY DO TABLETOP DISCUSSIONS AND JUST TALK ABOUT SCENARIOS OF HOW THEY'D RESPOND TO CERTAIN TYPES OF CALLS.
THAT'S WHERE THEY BRING THEIR FAMILIES IN SOMETIMES TO, TO HAVE DINNER WITH THEM.
AND IT'S JUST AN IMPORTANT PART OF THE CULTURE OF THE FIRE SERVICE AND, AND, UH, SOMETHING THAT WE'RE, UH, WE'RE WORKING TO, TO CREATE A, A REALLY NICE PIECE OF ART, UH, WITH THAT KITCHEN TABLE QUESTION, SIR, HOW MANY CHIEF, HOW MANY FIREFIGHTERS ARE YOU ANTICIPATING BEING HOUSED AT THIS LOCATION? WHEN IT'S, WHEN IT'S AT FULL SERVICE? AT FULL SERVICE, WE WILL HAVE, UH, NINE DORMS AVAILABLE, UH, FOR FIREFIGHTERS THERE.
SO WHEN WE, OF COURSE, IT'LL TAKE US SOME TIME TO GET THERE AND WE WILL HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY OF SHIFTING PEOPLE BASED ON, UM, THE, UM, THE CALL NEEDS OF, OF EACH RESPONSE DISTRICT.
SO STARTING OFF THERE, WE, WE PLAN ON HAVING A CREW OF, UH, OF FOUR INDIVIDUALS AT THAT FIRE STATION, A CREW OF FOUR INDIVIDUALS AT OUR CURRENT FIRE STATION.
UM, AND THAT'S ON AVERAGE, WE HAVE, WE, WE, WE WILL TRY TO HAVE, UH, FIVE AND FOUR OF COURSE, IT, IT IS JUST DEPENDING ON WHO'S SICK, WHO'S ON VACATION, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.
BUT WE WANT TO HAVE AT LEAST A FULL CREW, UH, RESPONDING OUT OF EACH, EACH FIRE STATION.
EVENTUALLY YOU NEED TO ADD, WHAT DO YOU THINK ANOTHER, HOW MANY MORE FTES TO THAT HAVE IT FULLY STAFFED WHEN IT GETS UP TO A CERTAIN LEVEL, I REALIZE, BUT WELL, IT'S, IT'LL BE DEPENDENT ON THE CALL VOLUME, BUT WE'D LIKE TO HAVE DOUBLE THAT TO, TO HAVE TO BE ABLE TO OPERATE.
OF COURSE, YOU SEE A FIRE TRUCK, IT'S NEVER JUST WITH ONE OR TWO PEOPLE IN IT.
AND TO HAVE A FULL CREW IN THERE, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ONE, ONE FIRE TRUCK'S GONNA HAVE FOUR PEOPLE IN IT.
SO IF YOU WANT TWO FIRE TRUCKS OVER THERE, YOU NEED TWICE THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE.
BUT WE'RE, WE'RE WORKING ON, UH, STUDYING THE, THE, THE CALL VOLUME AND, AND WHERE THOSE HOTSPOTS ARE AND WHAT TYPES OF APPARATUS WILL BE PLACED AT EACH STATION.
AND, AND WE TAKE ALL THAT INTO CONSIDERATION.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR COUNSEL? NO.
I ALSO WANNA THANK JAMES BEERS, OUR PRINCIPAL ARCHITECT FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT.
UH, HE'S, HE'S BEEN AMAZING TO WORK WITH AND, UM, REALLY PROUD TO HAVE HIM HERE.
GREAT JOB BY EVERYBODY, EVERYBODY THAT, UH, HAD INPUT AND FOR YOU GUYS BACK THERE, I KNOW YOU GUYS ARE EXCITED FOR IT TO, TO GET BILL.
[A. RECEIVE BIDS AND CONSIDER RESOLUTION NO. 2025-R41; A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF BOERNE, TEXAS, AWARDING THE CONTRACT FOR CONSTRUCTION OF THE AMMANN ROAD GROUND STORAGE TANK AND PUMP STATION PROJECT TO PESADO CONSTRUCTION FOR AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $8,907,229.00; AND AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO MANAGE AND EXECUTE THE RELATED CONTRACT WITH A NOT TO EXCEED TOTAL CONSTRUCTION COST OF $9,000,000.00.]
ON TO AGENDA ITEM 6 8 20 25 DASH 2 81.RECEIVE BIDS AND CONSIDERED RESOLUTION NUMBER 2025 DASH R 41, A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL CITY BRING TEXAS AWARDING A CONTRACT FOR CONSTRUCTION OF THE AMMAN ROAD BROWN STORAGE TANK AND PUMP STATION PROJECT TWO, FOR AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED AND AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO MANAGE AND EXECUTE THE RELATED CONTRACT WITH A KNOCK TO NOT TO EXCEED TOTAL CONSTRUCTION COST OF UNKNOWN, UH, PRESENTER.
COUNSEL, FIRST I WANT TO INTRODUCE ANDREW WILKINSON.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ALL KNOW HIM, BUT HE'S THE UTILITIES ENGINEER AND HE AND HIS STAFF PUT THIS BID TOGETHER.
I'M JUST HERE TAKING CREDIT FOR IT.
UH, SO THIS, UH, THIS PROJECT ALIGNS WITH OUR STRATEGY, UH, MAP IN TERMS OF INVESTING IN MAINTAINING HIGH QUALITY INFRASTRUCTURE AND ADVANCING MASTER PLAN RECOMMENDATIONS.
SO I KNOW YOU'VE HEARD ABOUT THIS PROJECT ON AND OFF FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, BUT WE'VE, UH, THE, THE PROJECT WILL BE A TANK, A WATER TANK AND PUMP STATION FOR A NEW G-G-B-R-A DELIVERY POINT ON AMON ROAD JUST NORTH OF FAR OAKS.
IT'S STRATEGICALLY LOCATED TO, IN, TO HAVE A HIGH SERVICE PUMP INTO THE ENTIRE EASTERN PORTION OF OUR, OF OUR WATER DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM, UH, PRIMARILY FOR FIREFIGHTING CAPABILITIES, BUT ALSO IT SERVES AS A REDUNDANT SOURCE OF, UH, A REDUNDANT PLACE FOR DELIVERY OF WATER BY GBRA TO OUR SYSTEM IN CASE WE HAVE A PROBLEM ON THE SOUTH END OF TOWN WITH OUR BUCK SKIN SITE.
THERE ARE TWO COMPANION PROJECTS, UH, THAT GO ALONG WITH THIS THAT WE WILL BE BIDDING SEPARATELY AND TRY TO TIME THE, OR COORDINATE THE TIMING OF COMPLETION TOGETHER.
AND THAT'S THE DELIVERY PIPELINE FROM THE SOUTH, AND THEN THE DISTRIBUTION PIPELINE FROM THE PUMP STATION TO THE NORTH THAT CONNECTS TO OUR DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM.
THE PROJECT WILL BE FUNDED THROUGH THE WATER IMPACT FEE FUND, AND, AND OUR DESIGNER WAS KIMLEY HORN ENGINEERS.
SO THE PHOTO THAT YOU HAVE UP IN FRONT OF YOU IS OUR BUCKSKIN TANK SITE, BUT ESSENTIALLY THE FACILITIES ARE, ARE, THEY'RE NOT THE SAME.
THEY DON'T LOOK QUITE THE SAME, BUT THEY'RE, THEY'RE SIMILAR.
IT'S A, UM, THE BASE PROJECT IS A MILLION GALLON, UH, STORAGE TANK.
THAT'S WHAT THE BUCKSKIN TANK IS.
WE DID BID A HALF MILLION GALLON A LITTLE BIT OVER TANK ALTERNATE JUST TO SEE WHAT A SMALLER TANK MIGHT
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SAVE US.UH, AND I'LL TALK MORE ABOUT THAT IN A SECOND.
THERE IS A 3,604 GPM PUMP STATION.
AGAIN, THAT'S A FIRE DEMAND PUMP.
SO YOU KNOW, A WELL MIGHT PRODUCE 300 GALLONS A MINUTE.
THESE PUMPS WILL BE ABLE TO PUMP 3000 GALLONS A MINUTE, AND IT WILL SERVE THE ENTIRE EASTERN PORTION OF OUR SYSTEM.
UH, THERE'LL BE A-G-B-R-A METERING, UH, WITH THE DELIVERY PIPELINE PROJECT.
UH, WHAT WE, WE DID NEED TO DO WHEN IT COMES TO SITE PREPARATION, WE ARE A TREE CITY, SO WE TRIED TO MINIMIZE TREE REMOVAL ON THIS SITE.
IT'S A REALLY PRETTY SITE, LOTS OF TREES, OF COURSE, SOME HAVE TO HAVE TO BE SACRIFICED TO, TO GET THESE FACILITIES IN, BUT WE MINIMIZED CUT AND FELL ON THE SITE TO TRY, TRY TO SAVE AS MANY TREES AS POSSIBLE.
UH, WE GOT OUR COUNTY SITE DEVELOPMENT PERMIT IN APRIL OF 2025.
ON THE COMPLETION OF DESIGN, THE ENGINEER ESTIMATE THE ENGINEER'S ESTIMATE OF PROBABLE COST WAS ABOUT $7.7 MILLION.
WE OPENED BIDS ON JUNE THE THIRD GOT SEVEN BIDS, AND THE, THE SPREAD BETWEEN THEM WAS ACTUALLY PRETTY TIGHT, TIGHTER THAN WE USUALLY SEE, BUT IT WAS ABOVE THE ENGINEER'S ESTIMATE, RANGING BETWEEN 8.9 AND $10.5 MILLION.
UH, THE BID ALTERNATE FOR THE SMALLER TANKS.
SINCE WE, UH, SINCE WHAT DID COME IN HIGHER, THE PROJECT CAME IN HIGHER THAN EXPECTED.
WE WERE GLAD WE BID AN ALTERNATE.
HOWEVER, SURPRISINGLY, BETWEEN THOSE SEVEN BIDS, THE AVERAGE FOR, UH, HALF OF HALF OF THE TANK SIZE ARE JUST A LITTLE BIT OVER.
THE SAVINGS WAS ONLY AVERAGED ABOUT 312,000 BETWEEN THE BIDS.
I THINK 200 TO 500,000 WAS THE SPREAD ON THAT.
SO MOST OF THE MONEY IS NOT IN THE TANK.
THAT'S WHAT IT TELLS YOU IN THIS PROJECT.
IT'S PROBABLY IN THE PUMP, UH, THE PUMP STATION AND SITE PREP.
UM, WE ALSO DID SOME VALUE ENGINEERING TO SEE WHAT COULD WE CUT, WHAT DO WE JUST REALLY NOT NEED? THERE ARE SOME NICETIES IN HERE.
WE, WE, UH, THE PUMP STATION ITSELF, INSTEAD OF BEING THE STANDARD METAL METAL BUILDING THAT A LOT OF UTILITIES USE, WE HAVE A STEEL STUD FRAME BUILDING WITH A ROCK EXTERIOR, NOTHING EXTRAVAGANT, BUT NICER LOOKING, AND A DECORATIVE FENCE, UH, ON THE EAST SIDE FACING AMON ROAD WITH CHAIN LINK AROUND THE OTHER THREE SIDES.
THAT'S THE, THE, IF YOU GO BACK, IF WE GO BACK TO THE SITE PLAN, THE EASTERN SIDE IS ON THE RIGHT SIDE, AND THAT'S REALLY, REALLY CLOSE TO THAT PART OF AMON ROAD.
AND WE, WE THOUGHT IT WAS IMPORTANT TO MAKE THAT LOOK GOOD.
UH, WHAT COULD WE DO? WE COULD, UH, WE COULD PUT IN CHAIN LINK, WE COULD, UH, CHANGE FROM A ROCK BUILDING TO THE STANDARD METAL BUILDING.
WE COULD REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF SECURITY THAT WE'VE GOT DESIGNED IN THE PROJECT.
WITH THE BOTTOM LINE IS WE WOULD ONLY PROBABLY SAVE AROUND $200,000 BY THE TIME WE EXECUTED ALL THOSE CHANGE ORDERS.
AND SO WE JUST DON'T SEE THAT AS, AS WE SEE IT MORE IMPORTANT TO GO AHEAD AND BUILD A PROJECT AS DESIGNED.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING.
SO THE LOW BIDDER ON THE BASE BID WAS PODO CONSTRUCTION AT A BID OF EIGHT 8,000,907 TH 900, $7,229 EVEN.
AND, UH, AS WE TEND TO DO ON THESE THINGS, UH, WE ARE ASKING THAT THE COUNCIL RECEIVE THE BIDS, AWARD THE PROJECT TO THE, TO THE LOW BIDDER PODO CONSTRUCTION, BUT THEN AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO EXPEND A LITTLE BIT MORE.
IN CASE WE DO HAVE SOME EXTRA COST CHANGE ORDERS.
WE WOULD NOT SPEND THAT MONEY UNLESS THERE IS A NEED TO SPEND IT.
SO WE WOULD INTEND TO SPEND THE BID AMOUNT, BUT WE'RE ASKING YOU FOR ANOTHER APPROXIMATELY $93,000 OF AUTHORIZATION AND THINGS IN CASE THINGS COME UP WITH, SO WE DON'T HAVE TO COME BACK AND SPEND YOUR TIME ON THAT.
I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ENTERTAIN ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS COUNSEL HAS.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR COUNCIL? COUNCILMAN QUENTIN.
UH, THE QUESTION ON THAT, DRAWING THE PLAT LAYOUT, UH, THAT THE CORNER RIGHT THERE AT AMMOND ROAD, I THOUGHT WE HAD TALKED WITH THE COUNTY ABOUT SMOOTHING THAT OUT, MAYBE DEDICATING SOME OF THAT LAND.
HAD THAT, DID WE EVER PROGRESS FURTHER ON THAT? WE DEDICATED 14 FEET TO THE COUNTY ON THE NORTH SIDE AND 14 FEET TO FAIR OAKS ON THE EAST SIDE AS PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT PERMIT REQUIREMENTS FOR THE COUNTY, RIGHT? THAT WAS DONE.
AND THEY'VE ACTUALLY DONE A LITTLE BIT OF SMOOTHING OF THAT CORNER, UH, FOR TRAFFIC.
WE, WE HAVE HEARD FROM THE CITY OF FAIR OAKS THAT THEY MAY WANT TO TALK TO US SOME MORE ABOUT AN EVEN BIGGER RADIUS AND RIGHT.
AND WE WOULD THEN NO FURTHER DISCUSSION.
WE HAVE NOT HAD ANY MORE DISCUSSION SINCE IN THE LAST COUPLE, FEW MONTHS ABOUT THAT.
JUST CURIOUS, UH, THE DISCREPANCY, BUT, UH, BETWEEN WHAT WE THOUGHT IT WOULD COST AND WHAT THE ACTUAL COST WAS.
OBVIOUSLY I KNOW NOTHING ABOUT WATER PUMPS.
I'M SORRY, I'M, I'M JUST CURIOUS WHAT, HOW THE DIFFERENCE 7.7 VERSUS NINE.
SO, ANDREW, DO YOU REMEMBER MANY OF THE RESPONSES THAT WE GOT? BOTTOM LINE IS THAT THERE WAS A LOT OF SITE IMPROVEMENT COSTS THAT OUR ENGINEERS JUST DIDN'T, DIDN'T, UH, ACCOUNT FOR SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS.
UH, ANYTHING YOU WANT TO ADD, ANDREW? SO THE LARGEST DISCREPANCY WAS IN THE ELECTRICAL IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE SAW, AND THAT WAS MAINLY DUE TO THE FACT THAT THERE'S SO MANY TANK AND PUMP STATION PROJECTS GOING ON AROUND THE STATE.
THE ELECTRICAL CONTRACTORS ARE BURDENED OVERBURDENED RIGHT NOW.
THAT WAS WHAT OUR CONSULTANT HAD TOLD US.
SO THAT'S WHERE WE SAW THE LARGEST INCREASE FROM THE ENGINEER'S ESTIMATE.
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BOTTOM LINE IS IT'S THE, THE CULTURE THAT WE'RE BIDDING THIS PROJECT IN AND JUST THE LUCK OF THE DRAW WHEN IT COMES TO TIMING.WE'RE NOT THE, WE'RE NOT THE ELECTRICAL PROVIDER OUT THERE, ARE WE? NO, IT'S PEC, BUT THE, THE WIRING AND THE ELECTRIC THAT I THINK ANDREW IS TALKING ABOUT IS NOT ABOUT THE INCOMING SERVICE AS MUCH AS IT IS THE INTERNAL DISTRIBUTION FOR ALL THE PUMPS.
THERE'S A LOT OF ELECTRICAL COMPONENTS WITH THESE HIGH SERVICE, HIGH HORSEPOWER PUMPS.
ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR COUNCIL? GET A MOTION.
BEN, HOW ARE WE PAYING FOR THIS? SO WE, WE HAVE A WATER CAPITAL PROJECT PAID FOR BY WATER IMPACT FEES.
UH, SO WE'VE ALWAYS INTENDED TO PAY FOR THIS STRAIGHT OUT OF MONEY THAT WE HAVE ACCUMULATED IN OUR WATER IMPACT FEES.
AND THERE'S SUFFICIENT MONEY IN THAT ACCOUNT FOR THIS EXTRA OVERAGE AS WELL.
THERE'S NO EXTRA MONEY REQUIRED.
WE WILL NOT HAVE TO SELL ANY DEBT TO BUILD THIS PROJECT.
THERE'S ENOUGH MONEY THAT'S NOT IMPACT FEE.
ALRIGHT, COUNCILMAN SCOTT FOR A MOTION? YEAH, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE RECEIVE, UH, CAN WE, THERE IT IS.
UH, RECEIVE AND CONSIDER, RECEIVE AND APPROVE RESOLUTION NUMBER 2025 R 20, UH, 41.
A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF BERNIE, TEXAS, AWARDING THE CONTRACT FOR CONSTRUCTION OF THE AMMAN ROAD GROUND STORAGE TANK AND PUMP STATION PROJECT TO PODO CONSTRUCTION FOR THE AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $8,907,229 AND AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO MANAGER TO MANAGE AND EXECUTE THE RELATED CONTRACTS WITH A NOT TO EXCEED TOTAL CONSTRUCTION COST OF $9 MILLION.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN WILLISON, PLEASE VOTE.
[A. MONTHLY PROJECTS REPORT.]
ITEM SEVEN, A CITY MANAGER'S REPORT 20 25 0 1 6.IT'S THAT TIME OF MONTH WHERE I GET TO GIVE THE LATEST UPDATE ON OUR STAFF'S PROJECTS.
WE DO HAVE FOUR OR FIVE ITEMS. I WANNA HIGHLIGHT, UH, FOUR PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN COMPLETED.
I'LL GIVE YOU ANOTHER HEADS UP ON A, ON OUR PROJECT THAT'S OF INTEREST TO COUNCIL.
WE'LL START OFF WITH THE MOBILITY, UH, SECTION.
UH, DIRECTOR CAROL HAS HAD THESE TWO PROJECTS, A CORRIDOR STUDY BOTH FOR OLD OLD SAN ANTONIO ROAD AND SCHOOL STREET GOING ON SINCE JANUARY OF 2024.
SO THIS IS A STUDY OF THOSE CORRIDORS TO UNDERSTAND IF WE EVER NEED HAVE A CIP NEED A STREET WIDENING, A STREET IMPROVEMENT PROJECT, WHAT IS IT THAT IS NEEDED IN ALONG THOSE CORRIDORS? WHAT, WHERE WOULD THAT ALIGNMENT BE? SO THERE'S A LOT OF STUDY THAT GOES INTO THAT.
AND SO, UH, SO THAT STUDY, UM, IS THERE.
AND SO WHEN WE DO HAVE ANOTHER BOND PROJECT TO CONSIDER, WE HAVE A LOT OF THE GROUNDWORK ALREADY, UH, TAKEN, UH, TAKEN IN, INTO CONSIDERATION.
SO WE'RE GRATEFUL FOR JEFF AND HIS TEAM FOR GETTING THOSE TWO, UH, LONG PROJECTS COMPLETED.
NEXT WE'LL GO TO INFRASTRUCTURE.
UH, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING STARRED, BUT I DO WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE PUBLIC CHARGING STATIONS.
UM, YOU GUYS KNOW WE'VE BEEN WAITING FOR A LONG TIME TO GET THE TRANSFORMER IN PLACE.
UH, WE NOW NEEDED THE CHARGER.
THAT WAS A DELAY WHERE NOW THAT'S BEEN RECEIVED IN DE PORT.
WE SHOULD HOPEFULLY HAVE THAT IN, IN INSTALLED BY THE END OF THE SUMMER.
NEXT, UH, DIRECTOR, UH, JIMENEZ WITH THE PARKS DEPARTMENT.
WE GOT THE THIRD, UH, COLUMNARY INSTALLED AT THE CEMETERIES, ADDING 48 NEW NICHES.
UM, AND SO WE'VE BEEN ADDING ONE OF THESE UP FOR THE LAST THREE YEARS, UH, TO THE CEMETERY.
NEXT, NEXT, NOTHING NEW TO REPORT AND DEVELOPMENT.
NEXT, NEXT, I THINK THERE'S ANOTHER PROJECT UNDER OTHER NEXT, I THINK IT'S THE ART DONATION THAT RUNNER.
IF YOU, YOU GUYS WILL RECALL THAT WE WENT THROUGH THAT.
THAT WAS A NEAT PARTNERSHIP WITH, UM, UH, WITH A COUPLE IN TOWN WHO HAD MADE THIS DONATION.
UH, WE GOT INSTALLED IN THE WRONG PLACE.
IT'S NOW BEEN REINSTALLED IN OUR CORRECT PLACE.
WE'RE JUST WAITING FOR THE PLAQUE, UH, TO, UH, COMMEMORATE THAT, UH, THAT PIECE.
THAT IS ALL I HAVE TO REPORT ON PROJECTS.
WE'RE GETTING DOWN TO THE, YOU KNOW, MORE, YOU KNOW, THE LAST QUARTER OF THE YEAR HERE SOON.
SO MOST OF THESE PROJECTS ARE COMING DOWN TO THE END OF THE PIPE.
I DO WANT TO GIVE A, UH, WELL BEFORE I MOVE ON, ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY OF THESE OTHER PROJECTS, COUNSEL? OKAY, I DO WANT TO, UH, CONGRATULATE THANK MY STAFF.
A COUPLE WEEKENDS AGO, FATHER'S DAY WEEKEND, WE HAD A LOT OF ACTIVITY WITH DOS FEST.
THAT WAS WHAT REALLY WELL, UH, PARTICIPATED AND WE HAD A LOT OF DIFFERENT STAFF MEMBERS HELPING OUT WITH THAT.
WE ALSO HAD, UH, THE COMMUNITY EVENT HERE IN FRONT OF THE TOWN HALL.
I THINK THERE'S SOME OTHER THINGS IN IN TOWN.
UM, GOOD WEATHER AND UM, JUST APPRECIATE ALL THE HANDS ON DECK WITH THOSE EFFORTS.
[8. COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL – No discussion or action may take place.]
MOVING ON TO AGENDA NUMBER EIGHT,[01:25:01]
COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL.ANY COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL THIS EVENING? NO.
EVERYBODY'S QUIET THIS EVENING.
THE ONLY SPORTS TEAM TIED THAT YOU CAN TALK ABOUT TODAY IS MY ALMA MATER.
LSU WON THEIR EIGHTH NATIONAL BASEBALL CHAMPIONSHIP WITH HELP FROM THE EMPIRES.
[9. EXECUTIVE SESSION IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE:]
HE, HE MAY NOT, WE DON'T WANNA DO A NUMBER BAD EXECUTIVE SESSION.WE WILL ADJOURN THE EXECUTIVE SESSION OFFICIALLY AT 7:25 PM THANK YOU EVERYONE.
[10. RECONVENE INTO OPEN SESSION AND TAKE ANY NECESSARY ACTION RELATING TO THE EXECUTIVE SESSION AS DESCRIBED ABOVE.]
WE'LL OFFICIALLY RECONVENE AN OPEN SESSION AT 7:40 PM AND I BELIEVE THAT IS IT.SO WE WILL ADJOURN AT OFFICIALLY AT 7:40 PM THANK YOU EVERYONE.