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[1. CALL TO ORDER – 5:30 PM]

[00:00:04]

GOOD EVENING.

TODAY IS FEBRUARY 3RD.

THIS IS HISTORICAL LANDMARK COMMISSIONER MEETING.

UM, FIRST

[2. CONFLICT OF INTEREST]

THING, ARE ANY, ANYBODY HAVE ANY CONFLICTS OF INTEREST? COMMISSIONERS? NO.

WE'RE ALL GOOD TODAY.

ALL GOOD.

UM, PUBLIC COMMENTS.

DON'T, NO ONE SIGNED UP, BUT I DON'T THINK ANYBODY IS HERE TO HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS.

, MOVING

[4. CONSENT AGENDA]

ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA.

UM, THE FIRST ITEM IS 2 0 2 6 0 2 2.

CONSIDER APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM THE HISTORICAL LANDMARK COMMISSION MEETING ON JANUARY 6TH, 2026.

COMMISSIONERS, IF ANYBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT 'EM OR MOTIONS HAVE PASSED.

IS IT NOT VOTING? I MOVE THAT WE PASS THE MINUTES.

WE CAN'T VOTE.

I WAS LIKE, OH GOD.

WHICH IS FINE, BUT SOMETHING.

EVERYONE'S ALL DECISION.

WE'RE STUCK.

THERE WE GO.

AT LEAST MINE HAS IT.

YOU SEE IT NOW? THERE WE ARE.

YEAH, THAT'S GOOD.

YEAH.

THAT I MOVE THE, EXCEPT THE MINUTES.

OKAY.

RIGHT.

HAVE A FIRST BY COMMISSIONER GRAVES AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER NICHOLS.

SO, APPROVAL OF, I GUESS Y'ALL GO WITHOUT OKAY.

APPROVAL OF MINUTES.

HERE WE GO.

OKAY.

ANY MINUTES FROM JANUARY 6TH HAS PASSED.

MOVING ON TO

[A. 2026-023 CONSIDER A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR EXTERIOR IMPROVEMENTS TO TWO STRUCTURES LOCATED AT 402 E BLANCO ROAD.]

THE REGULAR AGENDA.

THIS IS ITEM 2 0 2 6 0 2 3.

IT'S CONSIDERED A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR EXTERIOR IMPROVEMENTS ON TWO STRUCTURES LOCATED AT 4 0 2 EAST BLANCO ROAD.

OH, SORRY TO INTERRUPT.

CHAIRMAN PENA, DID WE SKIP PUBLIC COMMENTS? NO.

MM-HMM.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

GOOD EVENING.

MY NAME IS BEN SIMMONS.

I'M A MEMBER OF THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT AND WE ARE PRESENTING THIS ITEM FIRST.

WE'LL LOOK AT SOME OF THE BACKGROUND OF THE PROPERTY.

UH, THE PROPERTY'S ADDRESSED AS 4 0 2 EAST BLANCO ROAD AND THE APPLICANT IS JOHNNY LEACH.

THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR EXTERIOR IMPROVEMENTS FOR A PROPERTY LOCATED WITHIN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT.

THE OWNER IS HERE TODAY.

THE PROPERTY IS ZONED C3 COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL AND IS CONSIDERED A HIGHLY CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE TO THE HISTORIC DISTRICT.

IT WAS BUILT IN 1910 WITH AN ADDITIONAL OLDER STRUCTURE IN THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY.

THIS IS THE MAIN BUILDING.

UH, LIKE I SAID, IT WAS BUILT AROUND 1910.

IT'S CONSTRUCTED OF LIMESTONE BLOCKS WITH A STANDING SEA METAL ROOF.

THIS IS THE SECONDARY BUILDING.

IT'S TO THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY AND WAS BUILT PRIOR TO THE MAIN SCHOOLHOUSE BUILDING.

IT'S A TWO ROOM STRUCTURE CONSTRUCTION OF LIMESTONE WITH A METAL ROOF.

THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO REPLACE 48 WINDOWS WITH 32 BEING IN THE MAIN BUILDING, AND 16 BEING REPLACED IN THE SECONDARY BUILDING.

UH, I WOULD LIKE TO NOTE THERE'S A VARIETY OF WINDOW TYPES IN THIS PROPERTY.

TWO OVER TWO, SIX OVER SIX SIDE BY SIDE.

UH, ALL WINDOWS WILL BE REPLACED ON A, LIKE, FOR LIKE BASIS.

THE NEXT SEVERAL SLIDES ARE FROM OUR STAFF SITE VISIT.

UM, THEY'RE PROVIDED TO HELP YOU GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF THE TWO STRUCTURES, AS WELL AS LOOK AT SOME OF THE WINDOWS.

SO THIS IS THE MAIN BUILDING AS SEEN FROM BLANCO.

SOME MORE IMAGES OF THE MAIN BUILDING HERE.

ON THE RIGHT WE HAVE A SIDE OF THE MAIN BUILDING, AND ON THE LEFT WE HAVE THE SIDE OF THE SECONDARY STRUCTURE.

HERE IS THE SECONDARY STRUCTURE, AND AGAIN, A WINDOW FROM THAT STRUCTURE.

SOME MORE IMAGES OF THE SECONDARY STRUCTURE.

THIS IS A MAP THAT SHOWS PROPOSED WINDOW REPLACEMENTS ON THE FIRST FLOOR OF THE MAIN BUILDING.

UH, TO KIND OF HELP YOU ORIENT YOURSELF TO THIS IMAGE, THE BLANCO ROAD AND RED, THAT IS THE SIDE THAT IS FACING BLANCO ROADS THAT KIND OF HELP TO TRY AND HELP ORIENT TO THIS MAP.

THIS IS THE SECOND FLOOR OF THE SAME BUILDING, UH, AGAIN, BLINKO ROAD AND RED TO HELP ORIENT TO THE MAP.

UH, THIS IS AN IMAGE OF THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING, UH, THAT WE WERE JUST LOOKING AT THE MAPS FOR, JUST TO KIND OF HELP KEEP IT, UH, UNDERSTANDABLE.

WHICH BUILDING WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WITH THOSE TWO MAPS.

THIS IS AN IMAGE OF THE WINDOWS THAT WILL BE REPLACED, UM,

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IN THE SECONDARY BUILDING, UH, WITH BLANCO ROAD, AGAIN SHOWN IN RED.

THIS IS ANOTHER IMAGE OF THE SECONDARY REBUILDING.

UH, THE WINDOW REPLACEMENTS FOR THIS PROJECT ARE GOING TO BE REPLACED ON A, LIKE, FOR LIKE BASIS WITH THE ONLY CHANGE BEING FROM SINGLE PANE GLASS TO DOUBLE PANE GLASS.

THE IMAGE ON THE SCREEN IS A REFERENCE IMAGE SUPPLIED FROM THE WINDOW, UH, INSTALLER THAT SHOWS A SIMILAR WINDOW FROM OTHER PROJECTS, UH, PAINT COLORS THAT WE MADE TO MATCH EXISTING TRIM PRESENT ON BUILDINGS.

I WOULD LIKE TO NOTE THAT ON THE MAIN BUILDING, THE CURRENT TRIM IS RED.

UH, FOR THE, AROUND THE, THE WINDOWS, UH, IT WILL BE REVERTING BACK TO A BEIGE, WHICH WAS THE ORIGINAL COLOR AND MATCHES, UH, OTHER TRIM ON THE BUILDING.

UH, HERE'S THE DESIGN, UH, REVIEW CRITERIA.

UH, YOU REVIEW FOR HISTORICAL APPROPRIATENESS, COMPATIBILITY WITH ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN, STREET SKATE OBJECTIVES, AS WELL AS OVERALL ENHANCEMENT OF THE HISTORIC DISTRICT.

UH, STAFF ANALYSIS FINDS THAT THE WINDOW REPLACEMENTS MATCH THE ORIGINAL SIZE AND CONFIGURATION OF THE BUILDING, THAT THE MATERIALS AND FINISHES ARE COMPATIBLE WITH THE BUILDING'S CHARACTER AND IT WILL NOT BE REMOVING, UH, ANY DEFINING ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES.

UH, KEY FINDINGS FROM STAFF ARE THAT THE PROPOSED EXTERIOR IMPROVEMENTS MEET BERNIE'S UDC REGULATIONS AS WELL AS THE HISTORIC DISTRICT GUIDELINES.

WITH THAT, I YIELD WITH THESE MOTIONS FOR ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME OR FOR, UH, MR. LEACH? THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.

COMMISSIONERS.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON, I JUST HAVE A QUESTION ON THE COLOR.

OKAY.

YOU SAID IT'S GONNA REVERT BACK TO THE BEIGE.

IS THAT GONNA BE PAINTED OR IS THE METAL GOING TO BE BEIGE? THE METAL BEIGE, THE METAL WILL BE BEIGE.

AND THAT WOULD BE THE TRIM OR THE ACTUAL WINDOW? SASH AND FRAME THE WINDOW.

SASH AND FRAME.

OKAY.

SO THE TRIM ON THE WINDOW, THE FRAME OF THE WINDOW AND THE SASH OF THE WINDOW WOULD ALL BE BEIGE? CORRECT.

OKAY.

'CAUSE THE, THE ONE PICTURE OF THE SECONDARY BUILDING, IT HAD A WHITE, SO I BELIEVE FOR THE SECONDARY BUILDING, THEY'RE GOING TO BLUE.

YEAH.

YOU'RE MORE THAN WELCOME TO COME UP.

IF YOU CAN STATE YOUR NAME PLEASE, SIR.

FROM HERE OR FROM HERE? FROM THE, YEAH, IT'S JOHNNY LEACH.

HOW YOU GUYS DOING TODAY? GOOD.

YOU GUYS ACT LIKE THIS BUILDING'S IMPORTANT.

, JUST THE ORIGINAL SCHOOLHOUSE IN THE BACK WAS WHITE.

THERE'S STILL WHITE WHERE THE REMAINING WHITE ON THE MAIN BUILDING, THE TRIM OF THE WINDOWS IS BEIGE, BUT THE CITY, WHEN THEY DID THE REMODEL IN 1987, PAINTED THE, THE BARS OF THE WINDOW AND THE MAIN PART OF THE WINDOW RED.

SO WE'RE GONNA REVERT IT BACK TO BEIGE TO MATCH THE TRIM, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.

OKAY.

DID THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? I, I THINK SO.

I'M JUST TRYING TO PICTURE THE, THE SANDSTONE WITH THE, DO DO WE HAVE A A CLOSEUP? YEAH, YOU HAVE A PICTURE? YEAH.

UH, THE FRONT WINDOW.

LET'S SEE HERE.

I THINK WE DO, SORRY, IT'S RUNNING A LITTLE SLOW HERE.

THAT'S A GOOD EXAMPLE RIGHT THERE.

YEAH.

SO I CAN, THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF THAT ONE IN THE ROOM.

GO BACK ONE BIN OR FORWARD.

I'LL SHOW YOU'RE POINT.

YOU CAN SEE IN THAT PICTURE, THE WINDOW ITSELF IS PAINTED.

THEY WERE PAINTED RED, BUT ORIGINALLY THEY WERE BEIGE, LIKE THE TRIM AROUND THE WINDOW.

THIS ONE? YEAH.

MM-HMM .

DO THOSE WINDOWS OPEN? EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE REPLACING ARE THE ONES THAT OPEN.

THEY WILL OPEN.

OKAY.

YEAH.

COULD WE GO BACK TO THE DIAGRAM OF THE SMALLER BUILDING AND WHERE THOSE WINDOWS ARE GOING TO BE REPLACED? YES.

IT'S ALL OF THEM.

THERE'S A LOT OF WINDOWS IN THAT PLACE.

WELL, I KNOW, BUT WINDOWS COST MORE THAN THE BUILDING.

OH, I KNOW.

ALMOST.

UH, THERE THAT ONE.

SO YOU'RE TALKING THE TRANSOMS ABOVE THE DOORS, CORRECT? YES MA'AM.

THOSE WILL BE THE ONES.

OKAY.

WELL, IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, WE'RE REPLACING THE TWO TRANSOMS JUST 'CAUSE WE'RE REPLACING ALL THE OTHER WINDOWS THAT OPEN IN THE BUILDING.

MM-HMM .

OKAY.

OKAY.

AND YOUR SYMBOL FOR PW IS PICTURE WINDOW? UH, I DON'T KNOW.

I DIDN'T DO THIS.

THE WINDOW COMPANY MADE THIS? I DON'T THINK SO.

OKAY.

WHERE DO YOU SEE PW AT? ABOVE THE DOORS.

MM-HMM .

OH, DON'T THEY HAVE THOSE LIKE SMALL WINDOWS? LIKE THE TRANSOMS? THE TRANSOMS ISN'T THAT, THESE DOORS ARE NOT EXACTLY TRANSOMS, IT'S JUST A WINDOW ABOVE.

I KNOW IT'S KIND OF THE SAME, BUT IT'S NOT LIKE YOU WOULD SEE IN A BUILDING WHERE IT ALL, ONE PIECE WHERE THE TRANSOM OPENS.

THIS IS JUST A WINDOW AND I'M SURE IT WAS ORIGINAL FIX.

UM, BUT IT'S, IT'S A NON-OP OPENING WINDOW.

THEY'RE JUST GOT IT JUST A WINDOW THAT'S WINDOW THE DOOR, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.

MM-HMM .

YEAH.

I'M JUST TRYING TO, THEY'RE NOT THE, UM, LIKE IN THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING, THEY HAVE TRANSOMS OF THE MAIN BUILDING AND THEY'RE LIKE THAT LEADED GLASS AND THAT KIND OF STUFF.

MM-HMM .

BUT THESE ARE NOT

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THAT, THESE ARE JUST WINDOWS THAT OKAY.

ABOVE THE DOOR.

AND HONESTLY, I DON'T KNOW WHEN THEY WERE PUT IN.

I BELIEVE IT WAS WHEN THE BUILDING WAS BUILT.

EVERY PICTURE I'VE SEEN OF THE BUILDING HAS, THEY'VE BEEN THERE.

YEAH.

I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'VE BEEN REPLACED, BUT CURRENTLY THEY'RE JUST A MM-HMM .

WINDOW THAT DOESN'T OPEN .

CAN I SEE THE WINDOW REPLACEMENT MAP? UH, FOR THE FRONT BUILDING? UH, LET'S SEE.

THAT'S, IT'S THE FIRST FLOOR.

THAT'S THE FIRST FLOOR? MM-HMM.

MM-HMM .

OKAY.

IF YOU LOOK AT ROOM ONE, WE HAVE PICTURE WINDOWS ON THE SIDE AND THE BACK.

WHAT ABOUT THE SECOND FLOOR PICTURE? WINDOW SIDE AND THE BACK.

IF WE COULD GO BACK TO ONE OF THE PHOTO OF THE, THE ELEVATION BUILDING.

THE FRONT ELEVATION.

OH, OKAY.

YEAH, THE FRONT ELEVATION AND THE SIDE, THERE'S THE SIDE, UH, ADVANCE ONE.

YEAH.

SO THESE LOOK LIKE THEY'RE JUST GONNA BE A SINGLE SIDE BY SIDE, OR ARE YOU LOOKING AT THE LEFT? JUST THE SINGLE GRILL DOWN THE MIDDLE.

IS THAT, IS THAT THOSE AREN'T BEING REPLACED ON THE SIDE? THOSE DON'T OFTEN, THEY'RE NOT JUST THE ONES THAT ARE YELLOW? YEAH, JUST THE ONES THAT ARE HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW.

OH, ARE, OH, SORRY.

SORRY.

I SHOULD CLARIFIED.

I'M TRACKING.

THAT'S ALL GOOD.

GOTCHA.

CAN WE SEE THAT, UH, THAT WINDOW MAP AGAIN? YES.

THE HAND DRAWN .

OH, SO JUST THE HIGHLIGHTED ONES ARE BEING REPLACED.

MOST OF THE HIGHLIGHTED AND NUMBERED, HIGHLIGHTED AND NUMBERED ARE BEING REPLACED , RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT.

OKAY.

SO THE ONES ON THE REAR OF THE BUILDING WILL NOT BE REPLACED? IT'S JUST A ONE.

OKAY.

TWO OF, TWO OF THEM.

THEY JUST DON'T HAVE NUMBERS.

TWO.

THOSE TWO, TWO IN THE MIDDLE, EVERYTHING THAT'S HIGHLIGHTED WILL BE REPLACED.

EVERYTHING THAT'S HIGHLIGHTED WILL BE REPLACED.

IT'S THE OTHER WAY OF LOOKING AT IT IS EVERY WINDOW THAT OPENS WILL BE REPLACED.

RIGHT.

BECAUSE THEY DON'T SEAL RIGHT NOW THEY DON'T CLOSE IT.

THEY'RE TERMITE RIDDEN.

YEAH.

OKAY.

SO I THINK THAT'S GOING TO ALTER THE APPLICATION A LITTLE BIT.

SO WHEN WE GET TO THE, UH, THE MOTION, IF WE COULD CHANGE THE NUMBER OF WINDOWS AS WELL, JUST TO BE CLEAR WHICH WINDOWS ARE BEING INCLUDED, THEN I THINK THOSE ARE INCLUDED IN THE TOTAL WINDOWS THAT I SUBMITTED.

SO WE, WE WERE SUBMITTED 32 FOR THE MAIN BUILDING, AND THERE'S 32 NUMBERED, AND THEN THESE ARE WITH XS.

SO IT WOULD BE 32, 33 PLUS FIVE MORE 37 6 37.

THERE'S 20 ON THE SECOND FLOOR THERE.

SO IT SHOULD BE A TOTAL 37, 53, 32 UP THERE.

YEAH, THAT ONE.

SO THIS SHOWS AN ADDITIONAL, THAT ONE'S THREE ON THE REAR THAT WEREN'T INCLUDED IN THAT 32.

THERE'S FRONT BUILDING PLUS TWO.

OKAY.

SO IF ADDITIONAL FIVE.

FIVE.

YEAH.

SO 37 WINDOWS AREN'T CHEAP.

.

NO, THEY'RE NOT.

I, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR, I GUESS IT WOULD BE FOR, UH, FOR STAFF ABOUT, UH, THE, THE GRANT PROGRAM MM-HMM .

CAN THAT BE RETRO ACTIVE AFTER MOTION'S BEEN APPROVED? UH, NO.

THE, WELL, KIND OF THE GRANT PROGRAM, ONE OF THE RULES IS THAT THE APPROVAL FROM THIS BODY HAS TO HAPPEN BEFORE ANY WORK BEGINS.

OKAY.

SO, UH, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT WAS PRESENTED AS AN OPTION TO THE APPLICANT, UM, AND THEN WANTED TO MOVE FORWARD TONIGHT.

SO THERE'S STILL A BIT, THERE'S STILL FUNDS A WINDOW OF OPPORTUNITY, PARDON THE PUN.

.

YEAH.

'CAUSE HE HASN'T STARTED ANY WORK.

SO HE COULD STILL APPLY FOR THE GRANT EVEN THOUGH WE'VE APPROVED THIS AS LONG AS THE APPLICATION ISN'T CHANGED, CORRECT? I WOULD BELIEVE SO.

I WOULD HAVE TO TAKE A LITTLE CLOSER LOOK AT IT.

BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS ONE OF THE FUNDAMENTAL RULES IS THAT THE WORK CAN'T BEGIN BEFORE Y'ALL APPROVE THAT.

OKAY.

ARE YOU AWARE OF THE, THE GRANT PROGRAM THAT FOUND OUT THE HLC? I FOUND OUT.

THAT'S FANTASTIC.

I'LL TAKE, UM, BUT JUST FOR, FOR THE RECORD, UM, WE HAVEN'T EVEN STARTED MAKING THE WINDOWS UNTIL I GET APPROVAL.

SO IT'S GONNA BE SEVERAL MONTHS BEFORE THEY CAN BUILD THE WINDOWS.

SO YEAH.

SO APPLY FOR THAT, THAT GRANT.

MM-HMM .

GOOD.

SO YEAH, I GOT OTHER IMPROVEMENTS.

YOU GUYS WANNA PAY FOR IT ? LITTLE BIT.

THEY WILL.

THERE'S A LITTLE LIMIT ON THE, I MEAN, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE IT'S SUCH A HISTORIC BUILDING MM-HMM .

YES.

YOU HAVE A HIGH PROBABILITY OF, UM, THE SCORE, WHAT THE POINTS THE POINT SYSTEM WILL BE TO YOUR ADVANTAGE.

GREAT.

YEAH, DEFINITELY RESEARCH THAT.

MM-HMM .

FILL OUT AN APPLICATION.

SO, SO LEGALLY THERE'S, THERE'S NO, IF WE APPROVE THIS TONIGHT, IT'S CORRECT.

YOU CAN.

THE GRANT IS STILL AVAILABLE.

YES.

OKAY.

IT WOULD ALSO LEAVE THEM THE FLEXIBILITY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH

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IT.

UM, BECAUSE WE HAVE HAD THOSE DISCUSSIONS, UM, WITH SOMEONE FROM YOUR TEAM BEFORE.

UM, BUT WE'RE HAPPY TO HAVE 'EM AGAIN WITH YOU AND MAKE SURE YOU UNDERSTAND THE OPTIONS.

SO MM-HMM .

OKAY.

OKAY.

MADAM CHAIR, I MOVE TO APPROVE, UH, CERTIFICATE APPROPRIATENESS FOR, FOR TWO STRUCTURES LOCATED AT 4 0 2.

4 0 2 EAST PINCO ROAD AS PRESENTED.

OKAY.

WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER NICHOLS AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MAIN MINE.

SORRY, .

EVERYBODY CAN VOTE.

WHAT HAPPENED THERE? I KNOW IT KIND OF STARTED ALL OVER ON THE VOTING.

MM-HMM .

OKAY.

THERE IT IS.

THERE WE GO.

TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES TODAY.

.

WELL, AS A VETERAN EDUCATOR, I AM THRILLED.

MM-HMM .

THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE A SCHOOL AGAIN.

ISN'T THAT FANTASTIC? SO EXCITED.

YOU WANNA HEAR A GOOD STORY ABOUT THAT? YES.

MY WIFE AND I THAT WE'VE BEEN ADAMANT OF WHAT WE WERE GONNA DO WITH IT.

WE'VE JUST BEEN BUSY AT WORK AND SO THE BUILDING'S BEEN SITTING AND SITTING AND I KEEP TELLING HER, I GO, WE'RE CARRYING THIS BUILDING.

IT'S COSTING A FORTUNE.

YOU KNOW, JUST, JUST THE HEATING ON IT IS INCREDIBLE THAT YOU KEEP IT COOL.

AND, AND WE WERE NOT LOOKING AT THAT AT ALL.

THAT, THAT CAME ABOUT IN A PRETTY STRANGE WAY.

IN A WAY THAT ACTUALLY WASN'T GOOD AT FIRST BECAUSE IT WAS BROUGHT TO US BY A REALTOR WHO WANTED TO MAKE ALL THIS MONEY YEAH.

OFF OF IT.

AND I JUST, WE WALKED AWAY.

I'M LIKE, I'M NOT INTERESTED.

AND MY WIFE CAME TO ME AND SAID, WE JUST NEED TO GO DIRECT AND GIVE THEM, GIVE THEM THAT BUILDING.

AND SO WE GAVE THAT TO THEM.

THAT'S A GREAT BLESSING FOR THOSE GUYS.

I'M COULDN'T BE HAPPIER THAN THAT.

THAT'S NICE.

IT'S, THAT'S REALLY NICE.

WE THOUGHT WE HAD GOOD PLANS, BUT YOU KNOW, , THEY'RE STILL GREAT PLANS.

GREAT.

IT'S A LOT OF FANTASTIC USE OF THAT BUILDING.

YEAH.

YEAH.

IT'S JUST GO TO SCHOOL BACK IN THE SCHOOL.

MM-HMM .

YEAH.

THE NEXT THING YOU'LL BE HEARING FROM US ON IS WE PLAN ON BUILDING THEM A SMALL CHAPEL IN THE BACK AND A GATHERING CENTER SO THEY CAN, YOU KNOW, DO THE STUFF THAT THEY DO.

BUT WE'LL HAVE TO WORK WITH OUR ARCHITECT ON THAT TO GET A LITTLE FURTHER DOWN THE ROAD.

THIS ONE WE'RE TRYING TO GET DONE SO THEY CAN START NEXT YEAR.

YEAH.

I THINK, UH, BEN ADAMS IS WORKING ON THE INTERIOR DESIGN, SO.

OH, THAT'S AWESOME.

YEAH, WE'RE EXCITED.

WE'RE ECSTATIC ABOUT IT.

WE HAVEN'T BEEN SO EXCITED IN A LONG TIME.

WELL THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR DOING THAT.

WELCOME.

THAT'S REALLY NICE.

WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THAT.

YEAH.

GREAT USE OF THE BUILDING.

IT IS.

SOUNDS GOOD.

I BELIEVE IT APPROVED 'CAUSE WE ALL APPROVED IT AND THEN IT STARTED KIND OF OVER AGAIN.

OKAY.

SO YOU'RE, YOUR MOTION HAS BEEN APPROVED.

AND THEN IF YOU CAN GET WITH BEN, WITH MEL AND FRANKIE ABOUT THE GRANT APPLICATION.

I WILL.

THANK YOU.

I'LL SEE YOU AGAIN FOR THAT.

I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS.

HAVE A GREAT DAY.

AWESOME.

THANK YOU.

AND I TELL YOU, I KNOW HOW MUCH YOUR TIME MEANS.

IT'S AWESOME YOU GUYS.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S VOLUNTEER, YOU GET PAID, BUT IT'S FANTASTIC THAT YOU'RE GOOD.

NO, IT'S IF YOU EVER NEED HELP, WE LOVE OUR CITY WORKING.

COME , WE LOVE OUR CITY.

WE LOVE OLD BUILDINGS.

TOO.

WE HAVE THREE OF THESE.

WE BOUGHT TWO IN HAMILTON ALSO THAT WERE BUILT IN 1890 THAT WE'RE RESTORING.

SO WOW.

WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT, WE LOVE THESE BUILDINGS.

I LOVE HAMILTON.

VERY NICE.

HAVE A GREAT DAY.

THANK YOU.

YOU PERFECT.

ALRIGHT, TO THE NEXT

[6. COMMENTS FROM COMMISSION/LEGAL COUNSEL/STAFF – No discussion or action may take place.]

ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS COMMENTS AND COM FROM THE COUNCIL OR COMMISSIONERS OR STAFF.

WE GET PAID WITH SMILES FOR COMMENTS LIKE THAT.

YES.

LOVE IT.

THERE YOU GO.

I DO HAVE A COMMENT, UM, AN INTRODUCTION IF YOU WILL, IF YOU HAVEN'T HAD THE CHANCE TO MEET MISTY RAINS.

UH, OVER HERE SHE IS OUR NEW EXECUTIVE, UH, ADMINISTRATOR IN OUR PLANNING AND, UH, DEPARTMENT.

SO THIS IS HER FIRST TIME AT HLC.

SHE STARTED LAST MONTH, I THINK A AFTER YOUR MEETING.

UH, SO SHE'LL BECOME A REGULAR FACE.

SO I JUST WANNA INTRODUCE YOU.

OKAY.

WELCOME, WELCOME, OF COURSE.

WELCOME AND GOOD JOB TODAY, .

UM, QUICK QUESTION.

HAVE WE DECIDED TO LEAVE OUR MEETINGS THE SECOND JANUARY? OR SORRY, SECOND TUESDAY.

YEAH, SO THEY, SORRY, THEY WILL .

IT'S BEEN A LONG DAY.

WHAT MONTH ARE WE IN? ? YOU'RE SOLID.

UM, SO THEY WILL REMAIN, UH, THE FIRST TUESDAY OF THE MONTH FOR THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE.

OKAY.

UH, WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT IF THAT IS SOMETHING THAT DOES END UP GETTING CHANGED, WE'LL GIVE EVERYBODY PLENTY OF KNOWLEDGE, UH, AHEAD OF TIME, A COUPLE OF MONTHS HOPEFULLY, SO THAT WAY YOU CAN ADJUST YOUR SCHEDULE AS NECESSARY.

OKAY.

SO, ALRIGHT.

SO COME BACK ON MARCH 3RD FOR OUR NEXT SESSION.

COME BACK CLEAR.

SO I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT, UM, AT ONE POINT, I THINK WE WERE TALKING ABOUT PUBLICIZING THE, THE GRANT MM-HMM .

AND THAT I THINK THE COUNTY HAD NAMES OF EVERYBODY WHO OWNED SOMETHING ON MAIN STREET OR HISTORIC MAIN.

YES.

UM, THAT WE WERE GONNA SEND THEM SOME.

DOES THAT, IS THAT GONNA HAPPEN? OR

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IS THERE THAT'S SOMETHING I WOULD, I WOULD LOVE TO START.

WE DID DISCUSS IT, UM, UH, I THINK LIKE RIGHT AT THE BEGINNING OF THE HOLIDAY SEASON AND SO NOT TO OVERWHELM ANYBODY DURING THE HOLIDAY SEASON.

RIGHT, RIGHT.

BUT I THINK THIS IS A GREAT TIME TO BRING IT BACK UP AND, UH, DISCUSS.

SO WE'LL WE CAN ADD IT TO, UH, OUR NEXT AGENDA AS A DISCUSSION ITEM SO WE CAN PIN OUT EXACTLY WHAT WE WANT TO DO AND WE CAN, UH, EVEN BRING, UM, UH, A DRAFT OF WHAT WE WANNA MAIL, WHAT WE WANNA, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE DOING DOOR KNOCKING.

AND THAT WAY WE CAN GET ALL OF YOUR INPUT ON IT THEN AND, AND GET IT GOING IN MARCH.

OKAY.

GOOD.

DOES THAT SOUND LIKE A GOOD PLAN? MAYBE ALSO CONSIDER GETTING OUR SOCIAL MEDIA PARTNERS INVOLVED, LIKE THE BERNIE LIFE.

THEY'RE REALLY GOOD AT, UM, INTRODUCING THINGS TO BUSINESSES.

YEAH.

THAT'S A GREAT IDEA.

MM-HMM .

MM-HMM .

SOUNDS GOOD.

THANK ANYTHING ELSE? WE'RE ALL GOOD.

WE'RE GONNA ENJOY THE LAST MINUTE OF SUNSHINE WE ACTUALLY HAD TODAY.

DECENT .

ALL RIGHT, TIM.

MOTION I MOVE TO ADJOURN.

COMMISSIONER NICHOLS.

SECOND.

SECOND.

WHEN EVERYBODY SECONDED.

YOU ALL SECOND.

ALL RIGHT.

MEETING IS ADJOURNED.