* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [1. CALL TO ORDER – 5:30 PM] [00:00:03] GOOD EVENING. IT'S FIVE 30 TUESDAY, MARCH 3RD. I WELCOME Y'ALL ALL TO THE HISTORICAL LANDMARK COMMISSION MEETING. [2. CONFLICT OF INTEREST] UM, ANY COMMISSIONERS AND COMMISSIONER, UH, MAINTENANCE ON THE RACE GOT STUCK, SORRY, GIANT SAT HERE LAST , UM, COMMISSIONER MADONS ON THE WAY SHE GOT STUCK IN TRAFFIC, BUT, UM, DO ANY COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY CONFLICT OF INTEREST ON ANY ITEMS ON THE AGENDA? OKAY, WE'RE ALL GOOD TO GO. UM, ANY PUBLIC, ANYBODY SIGN UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS? I DON'T THINK ANYBODY DID OUT THERE STEPS SHAKEN? NO. [4. CONSENT AGENDA] ALRIGHT. MOVING ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA. UM, ALL THESE ITEMS BELOW WITHIN THE CONSENT AGENDA ARE CONSIDERED ROUTINE FOR THE, BY THE HISTORICAL LANDMARK COMMISSION AND MAY BE ENACTED WITH ONE MOTION. THERE WILL BE NO SEPARATE DISCUSSION OF THE ITEMS UNLESS THE COMMISSION MEMBER OR CITIZENS, SO REQUESTS IN WHICH EVENT THE ITEM MAY BE MOVED TO A GENERAL ORDER OF BUSINESS IN CONSIDERED IN ITS NORMAL SEQUENCE. FIRST ITEM IS 2 6 2 8. THIS IS A CONSIDER OF APPROVAL OF THE HISTORICAL LANDMARK COMMISSION MEETING FOR, UH, THE MINUTES FOR FEBRUARY 3RD, 2026. UM, ANY COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR KEEP LOOKING OVER THERE? I DIDN'T. EVERYTHING LOOKED IN ORDER? EVERYTHING LOOKED IN ORDER? OKAY. I HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER WRIGHT AND THE SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HANS. YES. I MOVE THAT WE, UH, CONSIDER TO APPROVE THE HISTORIC LANDMARK COMMISSION, UH, MEETING MINUTES OF FEBRUARY 3RD, 2026. OKAY. DOES EVERYBODY NEED TO VOTE OR, OKAY. OKAY. THE MINUTES FOR FEBRUARY HAVE PASSED. [A. 2026-058 Hold a Public Hearing and consider a request for a demolition permit for the structure(s) located at 203 E Theissen Street.] OKAY. WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON TO THE REGULAR AGENDA ITEMS. THE FIRST ONE IS, UM, ACTION ITEM 2 0 2 6 DASH FIVE EIGHT. THIS IS TO HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER THE REQUEST FOR THE DEMOLITION PERMIT FOR THE STRUCTURE LOCATED AT 2 0 3 EAST THON. I'M GONNA, UM, STEPH, IF YOU CAN EXHIBIT YOUR NAME. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS BEN SIMMONS. I'M A MEMBER OF THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT AND WE'LL BE PRESENTING THIS ITEM. UH, FIRST WE CAN LOOK AT THE BACKGROUND OF THE PROPERTY. THE PROPERTY'S ADDRESS IS 2 0 3 EAST TYSON STREET. THE APPLICANT IS JEAN ANN WALLACE ON BEHALF OF FIRST UNITED METHODIST CHURCH OF BERNIE. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR THE DEMOLITION OF THE STRUCTURE ON THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED OUTSIDE OF THE HISTORIC DISTRICT, BUT THE STRUCTURE IS OLDER THAN 50 YEARS. THE PROPERTY IS A SINGLE FAMILY STRUCTURE AND IS CURRENTLY BEING USED AS STORAGE FOR THE CHURCH. THE STRUCTURE WAS CONSTRUCTED IN 1968 AS APPROXIMATELY 1,442 SQUARE FEET. FEATURES A PEER AND BEAM FOUNDATION, AN ASPHALT SHINGLE ROOF, AND IS IN GENERALLY POOR CONDITION. ADDITIONALLY, THE PROPERTY IS OWNED C3 COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL WITHIN THE DOWNTOWN COMMUNITY OVERLAY DISTRICT. A SITE VISIT WAS PERFORMED ON FEBRUARY 24TH OF THIS YEAR, INCLUDING ME AND CHAIRWOMAN PENA. THESE ARE SOME PHOTOS TAKEN ON THE VISIT. THESE ARE SOME ADDITIONAL PHOTOS IN REGARD TO CITIZEN INPUT. THE DEMO REQUEST WAS NOTICED IN THE BERNIE STAR AND MAILED THE PROPERTIES WITHIN 500 FEET OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. WE RECEIVED FIVE RESPONSES IN FAVOR OF THE DEMOLITION. UH, KEY FINDINGS FROM STAFF INCLUDE THAT THE PROJECT IS NOT A HISTORIC LANDMARK AND DOES NOT HAVE ANY ARCHITECTURAL, CULTURAL, OR EDUCATIONAL VALUE. STAFF RECOMMENDS THE HISTORIC LANDMARK COMMISSION SHOULD HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING TO DETERMINE IF THE REQUEST MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS OF UDC SECTION TWO 11 AND SHOULD BE CONSIDERED A CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE. UH, WITH THAT I WILL YIELD TO THE COMMISSION FOR QUESTIONS AND DISCUSSION WITH THESE MOTIONS FOR CONSIDERATION. THANK YOU. AT, AT THIS TIME, I WOULD LIKE TO OPEN UP FOR A PUBLIC HEARING. UM, [00:05:01] IF THE, IF ANYBODY HERE AND THAT WOULD LIKE TO COME UP AND DISCUSS COMMENTS ABOUT THE PROJECT BEING DEMOED, THEY'RE MORE THAN WELCOME TO IF ANYBODY'S HERE IN THE AUDIENCE. OKAY. UM, THERE'S NO ONE FOR THAT. SO I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING PART AND I'LL ASK FOR THE CHAIRMAN IF COMMISSIONERS, IF Y'ALL HAVE ANYTHING I WANNA SAY. I KNOW COMMISSIONER MAYON AND, UM, DRAWING BLANK , COMMISSIONER GRAVES. THEY ALSO WENT BY THE SITES LATER ON THAT DAY, AND THEN THE NEXT DAY THEY LOOKED AT IT ALSO. UM, SO IF ANYBODY HAS ANYTHING I WANNA SAY, DO YOU HAVE ANY FEEDBACK ON THE SITE WHEN YOU VISITED? JUST IN GENERAL, BESIDES WHAT THEY MENTIONED AND SEEMED HISTORIC IN VALUE? MM-HMM. I DIDN'T THINK SO. I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING THAT WOULD WARRANT THAT. IT'S FALLEN DOWN AS IT IS. MM-HMM . AND IT'S IN PRETTY BAD SHAPE. THERE WEREN'T ANY, ISN'T TYPICALLY THE MAIL OUT A REQUEST IF THERE'S ANYONE WITHIN A CERTAIN RADIUS. WE DIDN'T RECEIVE ANYTHING BACK. WE RECEIVED FIVE IN FAVOR OF DEMOLITION. OKAY. I, I MAKE A MOTION, UH, THAT WE APPROVE. I MAKE A MOTION, SORRY, I'M READING IT NOW. I MOVE THAT THE HISTORIC LANDMARK COMMISSION ACCEPTS THE FINDINGS AND APPROVE THE DEMOLITION REQUEST FOR 2 0 3 EAST THON STREET. OKAY. I HAVE A MOTION, UM, AS APPROVED BY COMMISSIONER HEINZ AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WRIGHT. EVERYBODY CAN VOTE. OKAY. UM, IT HAS BEEN APPROVED FOR THE DEMOLITION AT 2 0 3 EAST LICENSE STREET. THANK YOU. [Items 5.B & 5.C] MOVING ON TO THE MIXED AGENDA. IT'S 2 0 2 6 DASH 0 5 9. CONSIDER CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR EXTERIOR IMPROVEMENTS TO THE STRUCTURE LOCATED AT 2 2 5 AND 2 2 7 SOUTH MAIN STREET. GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS. UM, THE NEXT ITEMS ARE FIVE B FIVE C FOR 2 2 5 AND 2 2 7 SOUTH MAIN STREET. THE APPLICANT IS LAUREN BELLS AND THE REQUEST IS FOR A CERTIFICATE OF, OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR EXTERIOR IMPROVEMENTS AND A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR A NEW NON ILLUMINATED WALL SIGN. THESE ITEMS WILL BE PRESENTED TOGETHER, BUT VOTED ON SEPARATELY. AND I'M JOANNE MARIE ANDRADE FROM THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT. THE PROPERTY IS ZONED C3 COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL LOCATED WITHIN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT AND IS A NON-CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE SUBJECT TO THE HISTORIC DISTRICT DESIGN GUIDELINES. THIS IS A CIRCA 19 55 1 STORY MID-CENTURY COMMERCIAL INFILL BUILDING WITH AN ELONGATED BRICK FACADE AND FLAT ROOF. ON JANUARY 6TH. THE HISTORIC LANDMARK COMMISSION APPROVED A COA FOR EXTERIOR WORK, INCLUDING REPLACEMENT OF TWO WINDOWS, REPLACEMENT OF TWO DOORS, AND REPAINTING OF THE EXTERIOR OF THE STRUCTURE, AS WELL AS A NON ILLUMINATED WALL SIGN. FOR THIS COA REQUEST. UM, STAFF EVALUATES THE PROJECT UNDER HISTORIC DISTRICT CRITERIA, INCLUDING HISTORIC APPROPRIATENESS, COMPATIBLE ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN, STREETSCAPE OBJECTIVES, AND OVERALL ENHANCEMENT OF THE DISTRICT. UH, THESE DESIGN GUIDELINES ARE FOR THE EXTERIOR IMPROVEMENTS UNDER, UH, AGENDA ITEM FIVE B. UH, THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING ADDITIONAL EXTERIOR IMPROVEMENTS INCLUDING FABRIC, FABRIC REPLACEMENT OF THREE AWNINGS, REMOVAL OF SHUTTERS, AND REPLACEMENT OF TWO WALL SCONCES. UM, AS PER THE A IS, THESE AWNINGS ARE EXISTING AND THE REQUEST IS A FABRIC ONLY REPLACEMENT, RETAINING THE EXISTING METAL FRAMES AND ATTACHMENT POINTS. UH, THE PROPOSAL ALSO INCLUDES REMOVAL OF EXISTING BLACK SHUTTERS FROM THE NORTH SIDE ELEVATION. YOU'LL SEE THE BEFORE ON THE LEFT AND THE AFTER ARE THE PROPOSED ON THE RIGHT. THE APPLICANT PROPOSES REPLACING THE THREE AWNINGS WITH A MATTE SOLID BLACK FABRIC WHILE KEEPING THE EXISTING FRAMES AND ATTACHMENT POINTS. THE PROPOSED FABRIC IS SUN UMBRELLA SHADE BLACK, AND STAFF NOTES THAT FABRIC REPLACEMENT IS GENERALLY ACCEPTABLE WHEN REPAIR IS NOT FEASIBLE AND THE SIZE AND CONFIGURATION ARE MAINTAINED. FINALLY, THE APPLICANT ALSO PROPOSES REMOVING TWO EXISTING LIGHT FIXTURES [00:10:01] AT THE FRONT FACADE AND INSTALLING TWO MATTE BLACK CYLINDRICAL LED WALL SCONCES APPROXIMATELY EIGHT INCHES TALL WITH A FLAT MOUNTING PLATE. THE APPLICANT INDICATES THERE WILL BE NO EXPOSED JUNCTION BOXES AND, AND ANY CONDUIT BOXES WILL BE PAINTED TO MATCH THE EXTERIOR. AND THE PROPOSED LIGHTING IS NOTED AS DARK SKY COMPLIANT STAFF FINDS THAT THE PROPOSED EXTERIOR IMPROVEMENTS MEET BERNIE'S UDC REQUIREMENTS AND THE HISTORIC DISTRICT DESIGN GUIDELINES. AT THIS TIME, THE COMMISSION MAY CONSIDER A MOTION. I'M HERE FOR QUESTIONS AND THE APPLICANT IS ALSO HERE IN THE AUDIENCE TONIGHT. OKAY. HOW MANY QUESTIONS WITH THE LANDSCAPE UPDATE? UM, UPGRADES, WHICH BY THE WAY, VERY ELEVATED COMPARED TO, UH, EXISTING. VERY ELEVATED. VERY NICE. MM-HMM . UM, WILL, WILL THE, UH, LANDSCAPE BE, UM, TEXAS NATIVE DROUGHT RESISTANT? YEAH, THEY'RE ACTUALLY JUST FAKE PLANTS. OH, SO BETTER? YEAH, BECAUSE THERE'S NO, UM, IF YOU COULD, SORRY, SAY YOUR NAME. OH, SORRY. MY NAME IS LAUREN BELLS. THIS IS ROBERT BELLS. ROBERT BELLS. OKAY. UM, THE, ALL OF THE LANDSCAPING IS JUST GONNA BE FAKE GREENERY. THERE'S NO WATER IRRIGATION. YEAH. AND JUST UPKEEP WITH THE WATER. AND THAT IS, THAT'S THE PINNACLE OF DROUGHT RESISTANCE. . ABSOLUTELY APPROPRIATE. AND THE, UM, AWNING, WILL THAT BE A, LIKE A SUN FADE RESISTANT MATERIAL? IT IS. OKAY. MM-HMM . THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE. ANYBODY ELSE? NO. OKAY. I THINK THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS. LOOKS GREAT. WHAT Y'ALL DONE ALREADY TO THE BUILDING. IT'S MADE A HUGE IMPORTANCE. THANK YOU. OKAY, SO WE'RE GONNA VOTE FOR THE, FELT LIKE I KNEW WHAT YOU WERE GONNA SAY, THAT'S WHY I ALREADY SECONDED IT. BUT YOU'RE GOOD. , UH, I MOVE THAT THE HISTORIC LANDMARK COMMISSION ACCEPT THE FINDINGS AND APPROVE THE CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR 2, 2 5 THROUGH 2 2 7 SOUTH MAIN STREET. OKAY. IS THAT, MAY YOU VOTE FOR 'EM SEPARATELY, RIGHT? MM-HMM . OKAY. SO FOR 2, 2 5 SOUTH MAIN STREET, UH, S FOR 2, 2 7, YOU WOULD, YOU WOULD VOTE FOR ALL THE EXTERIOR IMPROVEMENTS AT ONE TIME. THE NEXT ITEM WILL BE FOR THE SIGN. MM-HMM . OKAY. GOT IT. YOU'RE GOOD. UM, SO I HAVE THE FIRST BY COMMISSIONER WRIGHT AND THE SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HANS. OKAY. UM, THE, UH, APPROVAL FOR ALL THE EXTERIOR IMPROVEMENTS, SO WE MOVE ON TO THE SIGN PERMIT. OKAY. SO ITEM FIVE C IS A PROPOSED, UM, SIGN REQUEST. THE APPLICANT PROPOSES A WALL SIGN WITH INDIVIDUAL LETTERS READING ART SPA HOUSE. THE SIGN IS NON ILLUMINATED. IT'S A MAP BLACK AND PROPOSED ON THE NORTH SIDE ELEVATION NEAR THE FRONT CORNER. SO IT'LL BE VISIBLE FROM THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY. UM, YEAH, , UH, DETAILS INCLUDE THAT THE LETTERS ARE 14 INCHES HIGH. THEY'RE APPROXIMATELY 15 FEET, UM, IN OVERALL LENGTH AND ABOUT 17.5 SQUARE FEET OF SIGN AREA. THE SIGN IS PROPOSED AS INDIVIDUAL ALUMINUM CHANNEL LETTERS STUD MOUNTED WITH NO ILLUMINATION. STAFF FINDS THE DESIGN CONSISTENT WITH THE HISTORIC DISTRICT APPROACH TO WALL SIGNS, SIMPLE MATERIALS, LIMITED COLOR PALETTE, UH, NO ILLUMINATION, AND NO MORE THAN TWO FONTS. THE SIGNS, THE SIGNS, SCALE AND PLACEMENT ARE MODEST AND COMPATIBLE WITH THE FACADE. AT THIS TIME, THE COMMISSION MAY CONSIDER A MOTION. I'M HERE FOR QUESTIONS AND YOU CAN CALL UP THE APPLICANTS IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AS WELL. I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. OKAY. WE MAKE A MOTION TO OKAY. I MOVE THAT THE HLC ACCEPT THE FINDINGS AND APPROVE THE CERTIFICATE OF NESS FOR 2 25 THROUGH 2 27 ON MAIN STREET SOUTH MAIN STREET. OKAY. I HAVE A FIRST BY COMMISSIONER GRAVES AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WRIGHT TO, UM, APPROVE THE CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR THE SIGNED PERMIT. I OKAY. CONGRATULATIONS. YOUR SIGNED PER PERMIT APPROVED AS WELL. THANK YOU. GO AGAIN. IT'S GONNA LOOK GREAT. OKAY. [D. 2026-061 Consider a certificate of appropriateness for a sign permit located at 616 N Main St. (Selah Café Coffee & Market)] MOVING ON TO THE NEXT ITEM. IT'S 2 0 2 6 DASH 0 6 1. CONSIDER A CERTIFICATE [00:15:01] OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR A SIGNED PERMIT LOCATED AT 6 1 6 NORTH MAIN STREET. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS ANNE BRANSFORD. I'M A MEMBER OF THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT. WE'LL BE PRESENTING ITEM FIVE D, SEEKING A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS AT 6 1 6 NORTH MAIN STREET. THE APPLICANT IS STEVEN JIMENEZ AND HE'S REQUESTING A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR A NEW SIGN PANEL ON AN EXISTING POST AND PANEL SIGN. THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN ZONE C TWO, WHICH IS TRANSITIONAL COMMERCIAL. THE BUILDING IS A CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE IN THE HISTORIC OVERLAY DISTRICT AND IS THEREFORE SUBJECT TO HISTORIC DISTRICT DESIGN GUIDELINES. THE LARGELY ORIGINAL ONE AND A HALF STORY CRAFTSMAN STYLE BUNGALOW WAS CONSTRUCTED AROUND 1925. IT IS HISTORICALLY SIGNIFICANT FOR HAVING BEEN OWNED BY SOME OF BERNIE'S FOUNDING FAMILIES, INCLUDING THE BEER, WHALES, TUPPER WINES, AND IBBS BURGERS. THE EXISTING SIGN STRUCTURE IS LEGALLY NON-CONFORMING AND HAS WOOD POSTS THAT ARE PAINTED BLACK. AND AN ADDRESS PANEL THAT READS 6 1 6 NORTH MAIN STREET IN BLACK WITH WHITE HIGHLIGHTS AND A TAN BACKGROUND. THE SIGN STRUCTURE IS 99 INCHES TALL, 66 INCHES WIDE, AND 12 FEET FROM THE BACK OF THE CURB. STAFF EVALUATED THE PROPOSED CHANGES AGAINST THE CRITERIA IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT GUIDELINES FOR SIGNAGE, UH, METAL OR WOOD MATERIAL. A MAXIMUM OF TWO TYPE FACES, CERTAIN TYPES OF ILLUMINATION AND EARTH TONE COLORS. THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING A NEW 19.5 SQUARE FOOT SIGN PANEL MADE OF HALF INCH MDO OR MEDIUM DENSITY OVERLAY PLYWOOD PRINTED ON BOTH SIDES. THE SIGN WILL NOT BE ILLUMINATED. THE POSTS WILL BE PAINTED TO MATCH THE ADDRESS PANEL. THE PROPOSED NEW SIGN PANEL WILL HAVE WHITE TEXT IN TWO SERIF FONTS READING SEILA CAFE COFFEE AND MARKET WITH A WHITE LOGO ON A GREEN BACKGROUND. THE SIGN PANEL WILL BE 48 INCHES WIDE AND 58.5 INCHES TALL, TOTALING 19.5 SQUARE FEET. EVALUATING THE PROPOSAL AGAINST THE CRITERIA IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT GUIDELINES FOR SIGNAGE. STAFF FINDS THE DESIGN TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE GUIDELINES. I WILL NOW YIELD TO THE COMMISSION FOR QUESTIONS AND DISCUSSION WITH THESE MOTIONS FOR CONSIDERATION. ANY QUESTIONS? IT'S ACUTE LAW SIGN. I DON'T, I THINK IT'S FINE. I JUST WANT TO WANT TO KNOW IF THERE'S GONNA BE COFFEE ACCORDING TO THE SIGN. I BELIEVE SO THIS SAYS CAFE, SO I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S GOT, IT MIGHT JUST HAVE FOOD, BUT I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO ANOTHER ESTABLISHMENT THAT'S NOT ALCOHOL CENTERED. MM-HMM . YEAH. UM, I MAKE A MOTION, UH, TO APPROVE THE FINDINGS OF THE HISTORIC LANDMARK COMMISSION OR THE CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR 6 1 6 NORTH MAIN STREET. HAVE, UM, A MOTION TO APPROVE BY COMMISSIONER HINES AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER GRAVES. OKAY. MOTION IS PASSED FOR THE NEW SIGN FOR 6 1 6 NORTH MAIN STREET. THANK YOU. [Items 5.E & 5.F] OKAY. MOVING ON TO THE NEXT ITEM THEY HAVE, YEAH, TWO ITEMS, BUT WE'LL DO THE FIRST ONE FIRST, WHICH IS 2 0 2 6 DASH 0 6 7. CONSIDER A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR EXTERIOR IMPROVEMENTS AT THE STRUCTURE LOCATED AT 1 52 SOUTH MAIN STREET. LOGAN. HELLO, BEN SIM BEN SIMMONS. AGAIN, JUST TO HELP WITH THE MINUTES THERE. UM, I'LL BE PRESENTING ITEMS FIVE E AND FIVE F UH, THIS PRESENTATION WILL COVER TWO AGENDA ITEMS LOCATED AT THE SAME PROPERTY. THEY'RE GONNA BE PRESENTED TOGETHER, BUT VOTED ON SEPARATELY. UH, FIRST LET'S LOOK AT THE BACKGROUND OF THE PROPERTY. THE PROPERTY IS ADDRESSED AS 1 52 SOUTH MAIN STREET AND THE APPLICANT IS BRANDY CS. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR EXTERIOR IMPROVEMENTS INVOLVING AUDIO REPLACEMENT, AS WELL AS A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR A NEW SIGN. THE PROPERTY IS ZONED C3 COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL IS LOCATED WITHIN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT AND IS CONSIDERED A HIGHLY CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE. THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY USED FOR COMMERCIAL PURPOSES. THE BUILDING WAS CONSTRUCTED CIRCA 1910 BY EDDIE JOHN V. IT WAS USED AS A GENERAL MERCHANDISING BUSINESS UNTIL 1945 AND HAS BEEN USED [00:20:01] FOR COMMERCIAL BUSINESS SINCE. UH, THE BUILDING FEATURES A STRUCTURAL CLAY TILE CONSTRUCTION WITH A RED BRICK BRICK FACADE, STOREFRONT DISPLAY WINDOWS, DOUBLE WOOD PANEL DOORS, AND A CONTEMPORARY METAL FRAME AND FABRIC AWNING. THE REVIEW CRITERIA FOR THIS REQUEST INCLUDE HISTORICAL APPROPRIATENESS, COMPATIBLE ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN, STREET SCAPE OBJECTIVES, AND OVERALL ENHANCEMENT OF THE DISTRICT. THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO REPLACE THE EXISTING AWNING FABRIC. THE REPLACEMENT FABRIC WILL CONSIST OF BLACK FOR THE MAIN BODY AND AQUAMARINE FOR THE TRIM. THE FABRIC WILL BE A SUNBRELLA ACRYLIC BRAID FABRIC. UH, STAFF ANALYSIS FINDS THAT THE FABRIC CONSISTS OF A CANVAS OR OTHER SIMILARLY WOVEN FABRIC, THAT THE MATERIALS ARE COMPATIBLE WITH THE BILLINGS CHARACTER AND THAT THERE IS NO REMOVAL OF DEFINING ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES. UH, STAFF FINDS THAT THE PROPOSED EXTERIOR IMPROVEMENTS MEET BERNIE'S UDC REGULATIONS AND HISTORIC DISTRICT GUIDELINES. I WILL NOW YIELD TO THE COMMISSION TO VOTE ON AGENDA ITEM FIVE E QUESTIONS OF . UM, AQUA MARINE, UH, IS, IS OUR, THAT'S THE PARADE. THE TRIM. THAT'S OKAY. THAT'S THE TRIM. OKAY. SO THAT'S NOT THE MAIN COLOR? NO BLACK TRIM. OKAY. OKAY. NO, NO QUESTION THAT. MM-HMM. AND IT'S UMBRELLA, SO IT'S VERY DURABLE. MM-HMM . UH, I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE FINDINGS OF THE HISTORIC LANDMARK COMMISSION FOR THE CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS AT 1 5 2 SOUTH MAIN STREET. OKAY. I HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER HINES HAYNES AND THE SECOND BY COMMISSIONER TON I. OKAY. MOTION IS PASSED FOR THE EXTERIOR IMPROVEMENTS FOR 1 52 SOUTH MAIN STREET. IT'S NOW ONTO THE SECOND ITEM, WHICH IS 2 0 2 6 0 6 2. IT'S CONSIDERED A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR A SIGNED PERMIT LOCATED AT 1 52 SOUTH MAIN STREET. IT'S IN THE SAME POWERPOINT. THAT'S INTERESTING. 'CAUSE THE CYPRESS GRILL WAS THERE FOR LIKE A LONG TIME. THEY'RE STILL THERE. YEAH, THEY'RE STILL THERE. THIS ENTRANCE WILL BE ON THE SIDE. OH, THE BACK NOW. SO THE FRONT, SO THE IMAGE LOOKED THE GO. MM-HMM . OKAY. WE CAN NOW MOVE ON TO THE SECOND, UH, ITEM AGENDA. ITEM FIVE F UH, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR A NEW HANGING SIGN AT THIS LOCATION. THE SIGN INCLUDES THE NAME OF THE BUSINESS IS NOT ILLUMINATED WITH A WHITE BACKGROUND, BLACK LETTERING AND AQUAMARINE AND GOLD ACCENTS. THE SIGN IS 24 SQUARE FEET IN SIZE, WERE MADE OF AN ALUMINUM COMPOSITE MATERIAL AND IS 11 AND A HALF FEET ABOVE GRADE. UH, IT ALSO WILL NOT BE ILLUMINATED. UH, THIS IS AN ALTERNATIVE DESIGN PROPOSED BY THE APPLICANT. UH, THE PREFERABLE DESIGN IS THE PREVIOUSLY SHOWN ONE, BUT THIS IS PRESENTED AS AN ALTERNATIVE. SHOULD THERE BE QUESTIONS REGARDING THE FIRST DESIGN? CAN YOU SHOW THE OTHER ONE AGAIN? YEAH, THIS ONE AND THEN THE SECOND ONE. OKAY. OKAY. UH, STAFF FINDS THAT FOR BOTH SIGN OPTIONS, UH, THEY BOTH MEET THE UDC AND HISTORIC DISTRICT REQUIREMENTS. THEY'RE LESS THAN FOUR COLORS, NON ILLUMINATED MADE OF A METAL MATERIAL AND HAVE A MAXIMUM OF TWO FONTS. UH, I WILL NOW YIELD TO THE COMMISSION FOR DISCUSSION AND QUESTIONS. UH, PULL UP THE SIGNS SO YOU CAN LOOK AT THEM. I KIND OF FEEL LIKE THE SECOND ONE BLENDS BETTER WITH THE BRICK AND THE AWNING. DO WE HAVE A VIEW, A STREET VIEW OF GOING THE OTHER DIRECTION FROM THE SIDEWALK FOR THE SIGN? YEAH. ON THE AWNING PHOTO I THINK YOU HAD FROM THE OTHER DIRECTION. OKAY. SO PICTURE CELESTE HAS A WHITE ONE IN THE BACK. MM-HMM . JUST A LOT OF COLOR IN ONE SPOT. MM-HMM . TRUE. [00:25:01] BUT THEY'RE BOTH, BOTH GOOD. MM-HMM . JUST ONE'S MORE COLORFUL THAN, THAN WHITE. MM-HMM . YEAH. THE, THE FIRST ONE, IF YOU'RE LOOKING DOWN THE STREET FOR JUST LIKE WHAT YOUR EYE IS DRAWN TO, IT SEEMS TO TRACK NICELY WITH THE, YOUR EYE. CELESTE SIGN MM-HMM . BECAUSE I, I, I AGREED WITH WHAT YOU WERE SAYING ABOUT THE SECOND OR, UM, ELEVATION. BUT THE FIRST ONE, IF YOU'RE LOOKING DOWN THE STREET TRACKS NICELY WITH CELESTE SIGN. MM-HMM . THAT MAKES I THINK IT WOULD BE A LITTLE TOO MUCH. YEAH. ON THE SECOND ONE. MM-HMM . DECISIONS, I'M FINE WITH EITHER ONE. I'M REALLY FINE WITH EITHER ONE, BUT IF THEY PREFER THE WHITE ONE, IF I'M FINE. YEAH. OKAY. SO THE WHITE ONES, THEY'RE PROPOSED MM-HMM . ONE, RIGHT? YES. MM-HMM. THEY'RE PREFERRED. SO WE PROBABLY NEED TO STATE THAT, RIGHT? THE PROPOSED YOU WANT ME TO? SURE. LET'S DO IT. OKAY. I MOVE THAT THE HISTORIC LANDMARK COMMISSION ACCEPT THE FINDINGS AND APPROVE THE CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR 1 52 SOUTH MAIN STREET USING THE PREFERRED, UH, SIGN. I HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER GRAVES AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MEEN. OKAY. THE MOTION HAS PASSED FOR THE ASSIGNED PERMIT AT 1 52 SOUTH BEAD STREET. OKAY. [G. 2026-066 Consider a request to amend the certificate of appropriateness for 265 N Main Street.] MOVING ON TO THE NEXT ITEM IS 2 0 2 6 DASH 0 6 6. CONSIDER A REQUEST TO AMEND A, THE CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR 2 6 5 NORTH MAIN STREET. GOOD EVENING COMMISSION. FRANKIE LINDER WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT. UH, SO THIS PROPERTY, UH, AS SALLY SAID, UH, UH, EXCUSE ME, CHAIRMAN SALLY SAID, THIS IS 2 65 NORTH MAIN STREET. THE APPLICANT IS FRANK VALEZ, UH, FROM SA PARTNERSHIP ARCHITECTS ON BEHALF OF THE FLYING PIG ENTERPRISES, LLC. AND THE REQUEST IS TO AMEND, UM, A COA. THIS COA WAS ORIGINALLY APPROVED BY THIS COMMITTEE BACK IN JUNE OF 2025. SO JUST A FEW SHORT MONTHS AGO. HERE IS THE STREET VIEW FOR WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE BEFORE THE CONSTRUCTION BEGAN. UH, IT'S CURRENTLY A CONSTRUCTION SITE. IF YOU WERE TO DRIVE BY, YOU WOULD JUST SEE THE CONSTRUCTION FENCE KIND OF PROTECTING THE, UH, THE, THE SITE FROM VIEW. UH, THE PROPERTY IS A TEXAS GERMAN VERNACULAR, UM, AND IT IS, UH, A HIGHLY CONTRIBUTING, UH, STRUCTURE IN THE CITY. IT IS KNOWN AS THE STEIN LUCKENBACH HOUSE, AND IT WAS CONSTRUCTED IN 1870. SO TONIGHT, UM, WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED IS A FEW ITEMS, UM, DIFFERING FROM THAT PREVIOUS COA. THE FIRST IS THE ROOF COLOR TO CHANGE IT FROM GALVANIZED SILVER TO A DARK BRONZE TO CHANGE THE WALL COLOR FROM THE ROY CROFT BRASS TO MODERATE WHITE TO ADD AN AWNING. AND, UM, FOR THE MAIN STREET ENTRY GATE AND PERIMETER FENCE, WHICH THEY HAD INDICATED AT THE LAST, UH, MEETING THAT THEY CAME THAT THEY WOULD COME FOR A FINAL APPROVAL FROM Y'ALL. SO WE'LL GO THROUGH THESE ONE AT A TIME AND WE WILL, WE'LL START OF COURSE, WITH THE CRITERIA. SO, UM, FOR THIS GROUP, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IS HISTORIC APPROPRIATENESS, COMPATIBLE ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN, STREET SCAPE OBJECTIVES, AND OVERALL ENHANCEMENT OF THE HISTORIC DISTRICT. HERE IS THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED, UH, RENDERINGS OF WHAT THE SITE LOOKS LIKE. SO FIRST WE'RE JUST GOING TO LOOK AT WHAT WAS APPROVED BACK IN JUNE, AND THEN SHOW THE DIFFERENCES. SO HERE IT FROM A VIEW FROM MAIN STREET, LOOKING AT IT STRAIGHT ON HERE IS AN ANGLE FROM THE NORTH SIDE. HERE IS THE REAR FROM AN ANGLE, AND HERE IS THE, UH, REAR STRAIGHT. OKAY. THIS IS PROPOSED, UH, IT'S A LITTLE HARD TO SEE WHAT'S DIFFERENT. SO WE'RE GOING, GOING TO PUT THEM SIDE BY SIDE. SO YOU CAN SEE, UM, THE ANGLE IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT IN THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED ONE, WHICH IS ON TOP, AND THE ONE THAT IS PROPOSED TONIGHT. HOWEVER, HERE YOU CAN SEE THE AWNING. THAT IS THE ADDITIONAL AWNING THAT IS BEING PROPOSED. [00:30:02] OKAY. OKAY. HERE ARE SOME CLOSEUPS FROM INTERIOR TO THE SITE AND FROM THE SIDE. AND NOW ONTO THE ROOF AND WALL COLOR. THIS WAS WHAT WAS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED. UM, HERE WE CAN SEE THE GALVANIZED ROOF AND THE, UM, EXCUSE ME, THE ROYCROFT BRASS THAT WERE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED. AND HERE IS WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING TO CHANGE IT TO FROM THE GALVANIZED ROOF TO, UM, A URBANE BRONZE, UH, STEEL ROOF COLOR. SO IT'LL STILL REMAIN METAL. AND THE APPROVED WALL COLOR WAS A ROYCROFT BRASS AND INSTEAD A MODERATE WHITE. FINALLY IS THE ENTRY GATE AND PERIMETER FENCE. UH, WHILE THE IDEA OF IT WAS PRESENTED IN JUNE, IT WAS NOT DETAILED ENOUGH. AND SO THEY'VE BROUGHT FORTH THAT DETAILED TONIGHT FOR YOU. HERE WE CAN SEE THE STONE, THE MASONRY, AND, UM, IRON FENCE AND THE STONE, EXCUSE ME, THE, UM, METAL GATE WITH HILL AND BOX CELLARS ON TOP. OKAY. STEPH FINDS THAT THE PROPOSED EXTERIOR IMPROVEMENTS MEET BERNIE'S UDC REGULATION AND HISTORIC DISTRICT GUIDELINES. AND, UH, THE RECOMMENDATION IS THAT THE HISTORIC LANDMARK COMMISSION SHOULD DETERMINE IF THE REQUEST MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE UDC AND THE HISTORIC DISTRICT GUIDELINES AND CONSIDER AMENDING THE CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS. UH, HERE ARE SOME MOTIONS FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. THE APPLICANT IS ALSO HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS FOR HIM AS WELL. CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE FENCE PICTURE? YES. THANK YOU. . I REALLY LIKE THE SKETCH. MM-HMM . IT'S LIKE A EINSTEIN DRAWING OF SOMETHING. . IT WAS VERY PERIOD APPROPRIATE. YES, THAT'S WHAT, YEAH, THAT'S GONNA LOOK REALLY PRETTY. . THE CEDAR COLUMNS, ARE YOU FINISHING 'EM OUT OR ARE YOU GONNA LEAVE 'EM RAW? UM, IF YOU COULD STATE YOUR NAME FOR HI. HI, I AM FRANK VALEZ, PRESIDENT AND OWNER OF SA PARTNERSHIP ARCHITECTS. I LIVE HERE IN BERNIE, ONE 14 MOUNTAIN SPRING DRIVE IN BURN TEXAS. UM, I'M HERE WITH THE OWNER, RICHARD LEE. AND, UH, HE'S HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE OWNERSHIP SIDE. BUT, UM, UM, THE COMMISSION, WHAT WE WANTED TO SHOW, UM, THESE ARE, THIS IS MY FREEHAND SKETCH. I STILL DRAW AND I PREFER TO, TO PRESENT IN FREEHAND. UM, THE, THE IDEA WAS TO HAVE A PORTAL, A GATEWAY OFF THE HILL COUNTRY MILE, UH, TO BRING CUSTOMERS THROUGH THIS ENTRY. YOU COULD KIND OF SEE THE, IN THE GATE WE HAVE, UM, GRAPES. 'CAUSE THIS IS GONNA BE A WINE TASTING FOR MR. LEE'S, UH, HILLEN BOX CELLARS WINE, UH, THAT HE MAKES, UH, AND WANTS TO SHARE WITH THE COMMUNITY. UH, AND I THINK YOU HAVE, WHAT, NINE BOTTLES? WE'RE UP TO 12 NOW. 12. 12 WINES AND SPARKLING. BUT, UH, THE, THE IDEA HERE WAS TO USE MATERIALS THAT WERE ORIGINALLY PART OF THE LOOKING B, WHICH IS, UH, WOOD, STONE, AND STEEL. UH, THE COLUMN TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, IS GONNA BE, UH, AN EIGHT BY EIGHT, UM, UH, SOLID TIMBER COLUMN THAT'S GONNA BE ROUTED IN THE CENTER AND THEN BE TRIMMED OUT S FOUR S SMOOTH ON FOUR SIDES, AND THEN WILL BE STAINED. SO THE FINISH WILL BE A STAIN COLOR MATCHING THE STAIN THAT WAS APPROVED IN THE FIRST APPROPRIATENESS, UH, PRESENTATION. UH, THE HILL AND BACH ON TOP OF THE ARCH WILL BE THE ARCH ACTUALLY IS A SEGMENT, IF YOU COULD KIND OF SEE THE, THE DAOS MM-HMM . WE'RE GONNA CARVE AN ARCH OUTTA SOLID TIMBER AND, AND JOIN THEM TOGETHER INTO THOSE FOUR PIECES. AND, UM, STAIN AND S FOUR S ON ALL SIDES. AND THEN HILLEN BCH WOULD BE HANDCRAFTED, CUT OUT QUARTER INCH STEEL LETTERS. AGAIN, THIS IS NOT ILLUMINATED LIKE MISS, LIKE FRANKIE HAD MENTIONED. UM, AND THE TOTAL SQUARE FOOTAGE, I KIND OF PUT IT IN RED SO YOU COULD SEE IT, UH, 7.8 SQUARE FEET FOR THE MAIN SIGNAGE. AND THEN WE HAVE A SUSPENDED SIGN THAT WILL HAVE SELLERS ON THERE. THAT WOULD BE A WOOD SIGN WITH A CUSTOM FRAMEWORK. AND THEN SELLERS WOULD BE, UH, THAT SIGN IS ONLY 1.7 SQUARE FEET. SO WE'RE FAR BELOW [00:35:01] THE, UH, APPROVED, UH, REQUIREMENTS. UH, AND THIS WAS JUST TO BE, YOU KNOW, JUST THE ENHANCED MAIN STREET. AND, AND I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ALONG WITH MR. LEE. COULD WE GO BACK TO THE PAINT, LIKE WHAT IT WAS APPROVED BEFORE AND THE ROOF, BECAUSE I THINK IT'S LIKE THE ROOF AND THE PAINT AND ONE OKAY. USE THE ARROWS. OKAY. YES. SO YOU, YOU WANT TO KNOW THE REASON WHY WE MADE THE CHANGE FOR THE COLORS? WELL, ORIGINALLY WE, WE DID THE REVERSE, UM, DARKER ROOF LIGHT, DARKER ROOF, LIGHT PAINT. RIGHT. AND SO ORIGINALLY WE WERE THINKING, OKAY, WE WANTED TO IMPROVE THE ROOF. IT, CURRENTLY, IT'S, IT WAS ASPHALT SHINGLES. MM-HMM . OBVIOUSLY THAT WASN'T THE ORIGINAL DESIGN. UM, MR. LEE HAS INVESTED A LOT. WE WANTED TO RESTORE THE LOOKIN BCH HOUSE. SO WE ELIMINATED THE 1950S ALUMINUM WINDOWS, REPLACED THEM WITH, UM, WITH, UH, ANDERSON WINDOWS THAT ARE HISTORICALLY WITH THE RIGHT SASH. THEY'RE ALUMINUM CLADDED, BUT THEY HAVE THE RIGHT SASH AND PROFILE OF WHAT THE ORIGINAL WOOD WINDOWS USED TO LOOK LIKE. SO IN ORDER TO DO THAT, WE, MR. LEE HAD REALIZED, YOU KNOW WHAT THE ORIGINAL WAS PROBABLY WOOD SHANK, UM, SHINGLES, UH, AND WHICH WERE BROWN. AND SO GOING TO A, A, A METAL ROOF BROWN, WHICH IS VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT'S ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE VISITOR AT THE VISITOR'S CENTER. WE THEN SAID WE CAN'T HAVE A BROWN DARK ROOF WITH A DARK SIDING. SO WE WANTED TO GO WITH A LIGHTER THAT WOULD ENHANCE THE LIMESTONE. AND, UM, SO RIGHT NOW IT'S PRIMED. YOU COULD KIND OF SEE THE PRIMER. IT'S KIND OF WHITE, BUT THIS, THE COLOR ON THE NEXT, THIS, WELL, THAT'S THE ROOF. MM-HMM . THE MODERATE WHITE IS A REAL NICE SUBTLE COLOR THAT WILL IN, YOU KNOW, COMPLIMENT THE STAINED COLUMNS AND COMPLIMENT THE LIMESTONE THAT IT BUTTS UP TO, ALONG WITH THE, THE NEW ROOF COLOR AND FASCIA. COULD WE GO TO THE ELEVATION SLIDE WHERE, UM, OKAY, THERE WE ARE. THESE ARE CLOSEUPS, BUT PROBABLY THIS KIND OF SHOWS THE TOTAL CONTEXT WHERE YOU HAVE THE STONE. NOW THE ARCHWAY, WE HADN'T UPDATED IN MY MODEL. SO REFERENCE THE FREEHAND SKETCH ON THE ARCHWAY. MM-HMM . BUT THIS GIVES IT IN CONTEXT, THE, THE FREESTANDING OUTDOOR FIREPLACE, UH, THE, THE STONE AND THEN THE COLUMNS. UM, I MEAN THE, UM, THE, THE TEXTURE OF HERE, LET'S GO BACK TO THERE'S THE LIGHT, THE, UM, WHITE COLOR THAT WE SELECTED WITH THE DARK BRONZE FASCIA. OKAY. NOW THE AWNING MAKES SENSE BECAUSE ANYBODY WHO LIVES IN THE TEXAS BEACH DOESN'T WANNA BE LEFT OUT THERE WITH THE SUN BLAZING ON THEM WAITING TO GET INTO A DOOR. YEAH. COMMISSIONER, EXCUSE ME. THIS IS RICHARD LEE AND, UH, THAT THOSE WINDOWS FACE WEST. YEAH. AND SO HE, HE BECAME EVIDENT ONCE HE WAS STANDING OUT THERE OH YEAH. SUNSET DURING FOUR O'CLOCK THAT, UH MM-HMM . HIS CLIENTS ARE, HIS, HIS CUSTOMERS ARE GONNA BE, UM, BAKING IN THOSE WINDOWS. . THAT, THAT MAKES PERFECT SENSE. MM-HMM . YEAH, I THINK IT LOOKS NICE. THIS IS VERY THOUGHTFULLY DONE AND I DEFINITELY APPRECIATE THAT WE HAVE A LOCAL ARCHITECT WHO GETS THE, THE ORIGINALITY AND THE HILL AND THE FEEL OF THE TEXAS HILL COUNTRY. WELL, WELL, I TAKE PRIDE IN IT. I MOVED THE FAMILY HERE IN 2000 AND I'VE DONE OVER 45 PROJECTS IN TOWN, AND JEFFERSON BANK'S, ONE OF 'EM. AND SO I'VE DONE ALONG, ALONG THE HILL COUNTRY MILE, AND I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE KEEP THE, THE MOMENTUM GOING WITH CLIENTS LIKE RICHARD. AND I THINK, WAS IT THE, WAS IT THAT SECOND FLOOR BALCONY ON MAIN STREET MODELING THE BOILER HOUSE AND THE PEARL? AM I THINKING OF THE SAME THING? YEAH, I DID. YEAH. THAT WAS THERE ON, ON, ON, UH, SOUTH MAINE. SOUTH MAINE, YES. THAT, WHERE BERNIE TACOS ARE LOCATED, WE ADDED THOSE BALCONIES. THAT WAS A LONG TIME. I REMEMBER THAT. THAT WAS A, A LITTLE WHILE AGO, SOME TIME ON THAT. MY TIME COMMISSION , WE DID THAT. AND, AND THEN YOU ALL ACTUALLY SHOWED THE, THE OLD, UM, GIDDENS BUILDING, WHICH WAS THE, UH, THE, UH, NEW ORLEANS LOOKING BUILDING MM-HMM . WE DID THAT IN THE OLD NAPA AUTO PARTS. THAT WAS ONE OF MY FIRST PROJECTS IN 2003. IT USED TO BE AN ALLEY. MM-HMM . BUT A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T KNOW THE, THE HISTORY, UH, YOU KNOW, KENDALL, UM, WHO OUR COUNTY'S NAMED AFTER GEORGE KENDALL, UH, STARTED THE TIMES PICK UNION NEWSPAPER IN NEW ORLEANS. REALLY? AND SO THAT WAS HOMAGE TO, TO MR. KENDALL. AND WE DID A LITTLE, UM, COLONIAL, UM, BUILDING FOR, BECAUSE THE GINS WERE FROM LOUISIANA. OKAY. OKAY. AND SO PEOPLE DON'T KNOW THAT ABOUT GEORGE KENDALL. AND HE, HIS WIFE WAS [00:40:01] THE FIRST CATHOLIC, HIS WIFE NEEDED A CHAPEL. AND SO THE FIRST LITTLE CHAPEL AT ST. PETER'S, GEORGE KENDALL BUILT THAT CHAPEL, UH, FOR HIS WIFE. THE FIRST CATHOLIC CHURCH HERE, ST. PETER'S. YOU'LL SEE IT, IT'S THE SMALLEST ONE, NOT THE HISTORIC ONE IN THE FRONT. RIGHT. IT'S THE ONE OFF TO THE RIGHT. SO YES, I TAKE PRIDE IN WHATEVER WORK WE DO IN TOWN AND MAKE SURE WE DO IT RIGHT. AWESOME. OKAY. VERY GOOD. CAN WE GET TO THAT VERY NICE OTHER PORTION THAT READS OFF, UH, THE APPROVAL SLIDE? OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. UH, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE REQUEST TO AMEND THE CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR 22 6 5 NORTH MAIN STREET. OKAY. I HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER HAYNES AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WRIGHT. OKAY. THE MOTION PASSES FOR THE CERTIFICATE OF FOUR TWO. OKAY. THAT IS THE END OF THE REGULAR AGENDA. WE'RE [A. 2026-065 Park Plaza Retail Development at 305-323 S Main.] MOVING ON TO THE NEXT ITEM, WHICH IS THE DISCUSSION ITEMS. UM, ITEM IS 2 0 2 6 DASH 0 6 5. THIS IS, UM, PARK PLAZA RETAIL DEVELOPMENT AT 6 0 5 THROUGH 6 2 3 NORTH MAIN STREET. THIS IS JUST FOR DISCUSSION ONLY. IT'S JUST A PROPO LIKE CONCEPT IDEA THAT'S GONNA BE HAPPENING ON MAIN STREET, POSSIBLY 6 0 5 OR 3 0 5. DO WHAT YOU SAID? 6 0 5. OH, OKAY. I COULDN'T READ THAT WRITING. SORRY. . UH, WITH THAT, UH, THE DISCUSSION IS GOING TO BE LED BY THE APPLICANT, WHICH IS, UH, ALSO ARCHITECT FRANK VALEZ, UH, AGAIN, FRANK VALADE, UM, OWNER, PARTNER, I MEAN OF SA PARTNERSHIP ARCHITECTS. UM, MR. LEE, UH, HAS A CONTRACT ON THIS PROPERTY. THIS IS WHERE THE OLD PET STORE IS. UH, IT'S ACTUALLY THE NEXT PROPERTY, UH, WHERE I HAVE ON PARK PLAZA, THAT IS HILL AND BOX SELLERS, WHERE WE JUST DISCUSSED. SO THIS IS THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTY NORTH OF THE CURRENT PROJECT WE'RE BUILDING AND RENOVATING. AND, UH, THIS PROPERTY BECAME AVAILABLE. MR. LEE MADE AN OFFER AND WE'RE UNDER CONTRACT. AND WHAT MR. LEE WANTED TO DO IS GO BEFORE THE COMMISSION, JUST TO DISCUSS AGAIN, BE CONSCIENTIOUS OF, UM, STU BEING STEWARDS OF, OF, OF THE LAND ALONG MAIN STREET. AND SO HE ASKED ME WHAT I WOULD PROPOSE WOULD BE IDEAL HERE. AND AGAIN, I WAS PART YEARS AGO WITH, UM, RON BOWMAN AND, AND CHRIS TURK, UH, TO CREATE THE HILL COUNTRY MILE, WE HAVE TO MAKE IT WALKABLE AND UH, AND PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY AND SAFE. AND AS YOU KNOW, CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW, THE, THE OLD BUILDING THAT'S THERE HAS 130 FOOT DRIVEWAY . IT'S FROM, FROM NORTH POINT TO SOUTH POINT OF THE PROPERTY, IT'S ONE BIG ASPHALT DRIVEWAY. SO IT'S KIND OF A FREE FOR ALL PEOPLE COME AND GO ON THAT PROPERTY. I DON'T, I HAVE A PICTURE OF IT HERE. I CAN'T PUT ON THE SCREEN, BUT YOU, IF EVERYBODY KNOWS WHICH PROPERTY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. YEAH. SO WE'RE GONNA EX OUR PROPOSAL AND WE WANTED TO GO BEFORE THE COMMISSION TO SHOW THAT, UM, PROBABLY TOWARDS THE END OF THE YEAR, COME IN FOR A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS TO, TO, TO, FOR THE DEMOLITION PERMIT. AND THEN TO PROPOSE BUILDING A NEW ONE STORY 12,000 SQUARE FOOT RETAIL CENTER THAT WOULD ATTRACT HIGH QUALITY RESTAURANTS. YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE TALKING TO MARK BOHANNON COFFEE SHOPS AND COFFEE SHOPS, , BUT WE LOST PEGGY'S ON THE GREEN. AND SO WE WOULD LIKE TO BRING HIM BACK AND THIS WOULD BE A, AN IDEAL LOCATION. AND WE'RE SHARING THIS WITH MR. BOHANNON. I DID THE ORIGINAL PEGGY'S ON THE GREEN OH NO. FOR, FOR BILL BIRD. AND, AND, AND MARK BOHANNON. MY EARS PERKED UP WHEN YOU SAID BOHANNAN. I WAS LIKE, WHAT PIECE? . AND SO WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS TO EXTEND THE SIDEWALK ADD SAME KIND OF LOW FENCING, LANDSCAPING A FOUNTAIN IN THE MIDDLE OF THE, OF [00:45:01] THE PLAZA. AND YOU COULD SEE, UH, THE WINDOW FENESTRATION, THE CANOPIES SETTING BACK THE BUILDINGS, UH, A LITTLE BIT OFF OF MAIN STREET SO THAT THE HOLLENBACH WINE TASTING, UH, AND AND WHAT WE'RE GONNA CALL PARK PLAZA ON MAIN STREET, UH, COMPLIMENT EACH OTHER WITH PARKING IN THE BACK. AND SO THE IDEA HERE IS TO HAVE BOUTIQUE EITHER SHOPS, CAFES, RESTAURANT LIKE PEGGY'S AND HAVE A, A REAL SYNERGISTIC EXTENSION OF THE HILL COUNTRY MILE HEADING NORTH. UH, THIS THE, THE NEXT SITE. DO I SCROLL DOWN? YES. OKAY. THIS SHOWS THE SITE, SO YOU CAN KIND OF SEE WHAT CURRENTLY IS A DRIVEWAY THAT EVERYBODY ZOOMS IN AND OUT OF, WHICH CURRENTLY DOESN'T MEET CODE YOU IN, IN THE STATE OF TEXAS OR ANY REAL CITY. YOU CANNOT BACK OUT INTO A MAJOR THOROUGHFARE. NO. AND SO WE'RE GONNA IMPROVE THAT BY CREATING A, A LANDSCAPE BUFFER. IN MY SKETCH, I HAVE GHOSTED TREES IN SO THAT YOU COULD SEE THE PLAZA, BUT WE WILL HAVE, WE'RE ADDING CREEK, THAT'S WHY WE'RE CALLING IT PARK PLAZA 'CAUSE WE'RE GONNA BRING SOME PARK ATMOSPHERE BACK IN, HAVE THE A FOUNTAIN. UM, THE GOAL IS DURING THE WINTER, UH, DURING THE HOLIDAYS, THE FOUNTAIN WILL GO OFF 'CAUSE NO ONE WANTS TO BE HIT WITH COLD WATER. UH, THE NORTH WIND, UH, WE'LL PUT A PLATFORM AND PUT A CHRISTMAS TREE HERE TO CELEBRATE, UH, THE HOLIDAYS. AND THEN THERE'S A, A, A PROMENADE THAT BRINGS PEOPLE FROM THE, THE PARKING LOT SAFELY THROUGH WELL LIT TO. SO THAT NOW MAIN, MAIN PLAZA HAS A PEDESTRIAN WAY THAT GETS EXTENDED TO RYAN. AND THEN THE JEFFERSON BANK IS THE ONE I DESIGNED UP HERE NEXT TO THE CITY HALL. AND THAT WAS THE GOAL IS TO KEEP, UH, MAIN STREET PEDESTRIAN WAY, UM, MOVING UP ALL THE WAY UP NORTH. SO MR. LEE AND I ARE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. SO JUST TO GET MY BEARINGS STRAIGHT ON. THE OTHER SIDE OF RYAN IS CLIENTS CLIENT SMOKEHOUSE. OKAY. GOT IT. I LOVE IT. YEAH, IT'D BE A BIG IMPROVE. I THINK IT'S, I THINK IT'S GONNA BE WONDERFUL. THANK YOU. AND I APPRECIATE THE, IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, UH, HOW YOU'RE BRINGING IN, I'M ACTUALLY TEACHING MY STUDENTS RIGHT NOW ABOUT LEAD GREEN. OH, LEAD BUILDINGS? YEAH. MM-HMM . GREAT. AND, UH, SO THE WATER CAPTURE TANKS ARE I A GREAT IDEA. EXCUSE ME. WE'LL BE USING PAVERS TOO ALONG THE PLAZA AREA IN THE FRONT TO LET, WHICH WILL ALLOW, LET THE RAINWATER PERCOLATE DOWN. SO, PERFECT. YEAH. YEAH. THIS WILL BE, UM, UM, UM, CONSCIENTIOUS OF, OF THE DEVELOPMENT, THE LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT LEDS. I'D ALSO LIKE TO SAY THAT THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE EXISTING BUILDING, I THINK IS CLOSE TO 9,000 SQUARE FEET UNDER 10 ROOF. MM-HMM . NOW. SO THIS REALLY WILL NOT BE THAT MUCH LARGER. OKAY. JUST REPOSITION. YEAH. YEAH. MM-HMM . AND UPGRADED A BIG UPGRADE . I, I THINK FRANK DID A GREAT IDEA. THIS WAS THE FIRST SKETCH HE SENT ME AND MY WIFE AND I TOLD HIM WE JUST LOVED IT. AND ONE OF THE THINGS I LIKED ABOUT IS THAT I, I DON'T KNOW THE CORRECT ARCHITECTURAL EXPRESSION, BUT IT SEEMED OLD TIMEY. MM-HMM . LIKE THE BERNIE ARCHITECTURE IS ON MAINE. AND, UH, SO WE JUST WENT WITH IT. FIRST SKETCH. MM-HMM . WELL, THE REASON WHY IT APPEALS LITTLE SMALL TOWNS AND, AND, AND ARCHITECTURE APPEAL TO HUMAN NATURE IS BECAUSE THE SCALE OF THE WINDOWS, THE, THE SHADING, IT WAS ALL DONE. BASICALLY WHAT PEOPLE ARE CALLING GREEN DESIGN NOW TO BE GREEN, YOU HAD TO DO IT BACK THEN BECAUSE THERE WEREN'T, THERE WASN'T AIR CONDITIONING, THERE WASN'T. RIGHT. YOU HAD TO HAVE CIRCULATION, YOU HAD TO HAVE, YOU HAD TO UNDERSTAND WHERE THE WEST SUN WAS. YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND ELEMENTS LIKE THAT. SO THAT'S WHY SMALL TOWNS APPEAL TO PEOPLE IS BECAUSE OF THE SCALE OF THE BUILDINGS, THE ILLUMINATION OF SIGNAGE. IT'S NOT IN YOUR FACE. IT'S NOT DIRECT. SO THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS KEEP CREATING THE CHARM OF THE HILL COUNTRY MILE AND KEEP IT ALL THE WAY. I WANT TO TAKE IT TO WHAT I CALL FIVE POINTS, WHICH IS WHERE ADLER AND, UH, SCHOOL STREET HITS. THAT WAS THE ORIGINAL MASTER PLAN THAT I DID BACK IN OH SEVEN FOR THE CITY, WAS TO EXTEND THE HILL COUNTRY MILE ALL THE WAY TO FIVE POINTS. THAT ACTUALLY TIES INTO WHAT I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY, WHICH IS I LIVE NEXT TO BERNIE HIGH SCHOOL, SO I COME DOWN ADLER AND I FREQUENT BUSINESSES ON NORTH MAINE. MM-HMM . AND I WAS THINKING THIS WOULD BE, I ALWAYS WONDERED LIKE, WHAT'S A GREAT WAY TO BRING PEOPLE FURTHER NORTH [00:50:01] ON MAIN AND MAKE IT MORE VISIBLE? THIS IS A GREAT SEGUE INTO THAT. WELL, I TRIED MY HARDEST TO GET, UM, UH, UH, SPROUTS TO GO INTO THAT SHOPPING CENTER THERE, BUT THEY WANTED TO BE OUT ON I 10 AND THAT'S WHERE THEY'RE GOING. HMM. . OKAY. ANY OTHER THOUGHTS OR COMMENTS OR, I REALLY LIKE THE SKETCH. I DO TOO. I THINK THIS IS, UH, YEAH, VERY POLISHED. I DON'T SEE YOU HAVING ANY ISSUE WITH THIS, WITH US AT ALL. OKAY. WELL, WE'LL DEFINITELY WE'LL BE BACK AFTER IF WE WE'RE SUCCESSFUL AND CLOSE ON THE PROPERTY. WE WILL, WHEN IT BECOMES A, A FULL BLOWN PROJECT, WE'LL BE SUBMITTING FOR, UH, DEMOLITION AND THEN, AND THEN CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS. I'LL HAVE MORE DEVELOPED DRAWINGS, OBVIOUSLY, LIKE, LIKE THE SELLER'S DRAWINGS MM-HMM . THAT I WILL, UH, SUBMIT TO FRANKIE LINDER AND GET ALL THAT DONE IN THE RIGHT WAY. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. I JUST WANNA SAY I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR FEEDBACK AND CONSIDERATION OF THIS TOO AS AN INVESTOR. AND I DON'T DO THIS FULL TIME. THIS IS JUST SOMETHING THAT I JUST FELT LIKE WAS IMPORTANT TO THE CITY OF BERNIE AND, BUT IT, IT DOES REPRESENT A CONSIDERABLE INVESTMENT. AND SO BEFORE WE GO TOO FAR DOWN THE ROAD MM-HMM . TO HAVE THE HISTORICAL COMMISSIONS, UM, JUST, YOU KNOW, POSITIVE INTEREST IN THE PROJECT GIVES ME CONFIDENCE TO TAKE THE NEXT STEPS. YEAH. I, IT, IT HELPS A LOT. SO, YOU KNOW, I CAN, I CAN FEEL BETTER ABOUT WRITING CHECKS, . WELL, AND WE APPRECIATE YOUR VISION AS WELL. THANK YOU. GOOD IMPROVEMENT. OH, YES. WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND WE APPRECIATE YOU VOLUNTEERING FOR THIS SERVICE COURSE. THANK YOU SO MUCH. LOOKING FORWARD TO THE NEXT STEP. MM-HMM . OKAY. INCLUDES THE, I JUST NEED TO ADD ONE OF THOSE ARCHWAYS LIKE HE CREATED ON THE OTHER ONE RIGHT THERE. DIAMOND. [7. COMMENTS FROM COMMISSION/LEGAL COUNSEL/STAFF – No discussion or action may take place.] THE NEXT ITEM IS COMMENTS FROM COMMISSIONERS, LEGAL STAFF. THERE'S ANYTHING FROM ANYBODY? NO COMMENTS? NO. OH. UH, YES. ONE ACTUALLY, UM, UH, LAST MONTH WE DISCUSSED COMING WITH A DISCUSSION ITEM TODAY FOR PROMOTIONAL ITEMS FOR THE STORE GRANT. UM, WE HAVE WORKED ON THAT, BUT DUE TO THE AMOUNT OF ITEMS ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT, UM, WE DID DECIDE TO PUSH IT TO NEXT MONTH. SO WE WILL HAVE THAT INFORMATION FOR YOU NEXT MONTH. OKAY. AWESOME. NANCY, SOMEONE ELSE IS TELLING US IT'S TIME TO GO. . ALRIGHT. UM, ANYBODY ELSE? I MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN. GOT GOT A FIRST MAY. WANT A SECOND? THERE YOU GO. FIRST MR. ING SECOND TO RIGHT TO ADJOURN. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. MEETING IS DISMISSED. WE GOT 35. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.