Jun 11, 2026 Design Review Committee on 06/11/2026 6:00 PM

[1. CALL TO ORDER – 6:00 PM]

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GOOD EVENING.

WELCOME TO THE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE MEETING ON JUNE THE 11TH, 2026.

AND THIS WILL BE OUR FINAL, UH, MEETING FOR THE DESIGN REVIEW.

UH, IF YOU PLEASE STAND, WE'LL DO OUR PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, OUR PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG, THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH ONE NATION UNDERGROUND, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE.

NOW THE TEXAS FLAG.

HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG, OUR PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE TEXAS ONE STATE UNDER GOD.

UNDER GOD.

ONE INDIVISIBLE, AND A MOMENT OF SILENCE.

AMEN.

YOU MAY BE SEATED.

WE'LL MOVE ON TO OUR CONFLICT OF INTEREST SECTION.

IS THERE ANY CONFLICT OF INTEREST TODAY? ALRIGHT, BNN, WE'LL MOVE ON TO, UH, ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS.

ALRIGHT.

NOT, NO, UM, PUBLIC COMMENTS.

WE'LL

[4. CONSENT AGENDA]

DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES? ALRIGHT, I HAVE A MOTION AND A, A SECOND.

AND ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

ALL OPPOSED? ALRIGHT,

[5.A. Consider a Certificate of Approval for Alliance Credit Union, located at 1440 South Main Street, to allow the digital element of a proposed monument sign to exceed twenty-five percent (25%) of the total sign face area within the Entrance Corridor Overlay District. (Clifton Johnson, on behalf of Alliance Credit Union)]

SO WE'LL, UH, HEAR FROM THE CITY.

GOOD EVENING COMMITTEE MEMBERS.

MY NAME IS JOANNE MARIE ANDRADE AND I'M WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT.

I'LL BE, UH, PRESENTING THIS ITEM TONIGHT.

UH, BEFORE BEGINNING THE PRESENTATION, I WOULD LIKE TO NOTE A CORRECTION TO THE PUBLISHED PACKET.

ATTACHMENT ONE, THE AERIAL MAP AND ATTACHMENT TO THE ZONING MAP IDENTIFIED THE INCORRECT PARCEL.

THE CORRECT SUBJECT PROPERTY IS ALLIANCE CREDIT UNION AT 1440 SOUTH MAIN STREET.

CORRECTED EXHIBITS HAVE BEEN INCLUDED IN THIS PRESENTATION TONIGHT.

THE CORRECTION DOES NOT CHANGE THE REQUESTED ACTION ZONING OVERLAY DESIGNATION, ANALYSIS, OR STAFF RECOMMENDATION.

THIS ITEM IS A SIGNED CERTIFICATE OF APPROVAL REQUEST FOR ALLIANCE CREDIT UNION AT 1440 SOUTH MAINE.

THE APPLICANT IS CLIFTON JOHNSON AND THE REQUEST IS TO ALLOW A DIGITAL ELEMENT OF A PROPOSED MONUMENT SIGN TO EXCEED 25% OF THE TOTAL SIGN FEES.

THIS IS THE ZONING MAP.

THE PROPERTY IS ZONED C3 COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL AND IS LOCATED WITHIN THE ENTRANCE CORRIDOR OVERLAY DISTRICT.

THE PROPOSED DIGITAL DISPLAY IS APPROXIMATELY SEVEN FEET BY FOUR FEET OR 28 SQUARE FEET TOTAL.

THE DIGITAL COMPONENT WOULD COMPRISE 100% OF THE DISPLAY FACE, THE SIGN FACE.

SINCE THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED WITHIN THE ENTRANCE CORRIDOR OVERLAY DISTRICT, THE DIGITAL ELEMENT, AND SINCE IT'S IN THE OVERLAY DISTRICT AND THE DIGITAL ELEMENT IS OVER 25% OF THE TOTAL SIGN FEES, THE REQUEST REQUIRES DRC REVIEW THROUGH A CERTIFICATE OF APPROVAL.

UH, THESE ARE THE, THIS IS THE PURPOSE OF THE ENTRANCE CORRIDORS OVERLY DISTRICT.

THE THREE PURPOSES ARE TO PRESERVE ECONOMIC FUNCTION OF THE PRIMARY ENTRANCE CORRIDORS IN THE CITY, MANAGE TRAFFIC, PARKING, AND CONNECTIVITY EFFECTIVELY WITHIN THESE CORRIDORS, AND STRENGTHEN WAYFINDING AND ORIENTATION THROUGH RE STREET SCAPE DESIGN.

THESE ARE THE CRITERIA THAT THE COMMITTEE WILL NEED TO EVALUATE WITH THIS.

UM, CERTIFICATE OF APPROVAL REQUEST.

HERE IS A STREET VIEW SHOWING THE ALLIANCE CREDIT UNION SITE ALONG SOUTH MAIN STREET.

THE EXISTING LEGALLY NON-CONFORMING MONUMENT SIGN WILL BE REMOVED AND REPLACED WITH THE PROPOSED MONUMENT SIGN WITH THE DIGITAL DISPLAY.

UM, IN THE SAME LOCATION, THERE IS A PRIVATE DRAINAGE AND UTILITY EASEMENT.

YOU CAN SEE IT RIGHT HERE.

THAT SETS BACK THE PROPOSED SIGN, UM, ABOUT 80 FEET.

UM, ONE ADDITIONAL THING IS THE APPLICANT HAS PROPOSED TO, HAS, UM, SUBMITTED A, A PERMIT TO JUST CHANGE THE PANEL OF HERE FOR NOW UNTIL THEY'RE ABLE TO CONSTRUCT THE, THE PROPOSED MONUMENT SIGN.

BEFORE THAT PERMIT GETS APPROVED, THEY'RE GONNA CHANGE THE PANEL SO THAT THERE'S STILL SOME, UH, IDENTIFICATION OF THE BUSINESS.

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THE DIGITAL DISPLAY IS APPROXIMATELY SEVEN BY 4 28 SQUARE FEET AND WOULD COMPRISE A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE DISPLAY FACE.

THE OVER ALL MONUMENT SIGN IS APPROXIMATELY EIGHT FEET BY EIGHT FEET, WHICH DOES MEET OUR, UM, SIGN STANDARDS FOR THIS SIGN TYPE.

THE APPLICANT HAS INDICATED THAT THE PROPOSED DIGITAL SIGN WILL COMPLY WITH UDC SECTION NINE FIVE C FIVE, AND APPENDIX D, DARK SKY REGULATIONS.

UM, THE SIGN PLANS INCLUDE A MAXIMUM CORRELATED COLOR TEMPERATURE OF 27 K OR LESS, AND AN AUTOMATIC SHUTOFF CONTROL SET FOR 10:00 PM OR BUSINESS CLOSING, WHICHEVER OCCURS.

FIRST, FINAL SIGN PERMIT APPROVAL IS REQUIRED BEFORE INSTALLATION AND THE PERMIT WILL NOT BE APPROVED UNLESS THE SIGN COMPLIES WITH ALL APPLICABLE UDC REQUIREMENTS BEFORE REVIEWING THE ENTRANCE CORRIDOR CRITERIA, I WANNA CLARIFY WHY THIS REQUEST IS BEFORE THE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE UNDER THE UDC, ALL DIGITAL SIGNS IN THE CITY MUST BE CONSIDERED AND APPROVED BY THE DRC THROUGH A CERTIFICATE OF APPROVAL.

BECAUSE THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED WITHIN THE ENTRANCE CORRIDORS OVERLAY DISTRICT, THE DRC MUST ALSO CONSIDER WHETHER THE DIGITAL COMPONENT IS APPROPRIATE FOR THE CORRIDOR CONTEXT.

FOR THIS REQUEST, THE DIGITAL ELEMENT EXCEEDS 25% OF THE TOTAL SIGN FACE AREA.

THEREFORE, THE ITEM BEFORE THE DRC IS WHETHER TO APPROVE A CERTIFICATE OF APPROVAL FOR A DIGITAL SIGN ELEMENT THAT EXCEEDS 25% OF THE SIGN FACE WITHIN THE ENTRANCE CORRIDORS OVERLAID DISTRICT.

UH, THE DRC IS ASKED TO DETERMINE WHETHER THE PROPOSED DIGITAL SIGN IS APPROPRIATE FOR THIS SITE AND CONSISTENT WITH THE PURPOSE AND INTENT OF THE ENTRANCE CORRIDOR OVERLAY DISTRICT AND THE APPLICABLE SIGN STANDARDS FROM UDC CHAPTER NINE, OUR SIGNAGE CHAPTER, AGAIN, THE DIGITAL COMPONENT COMPRISES A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE DISPLAY FACE AND EXCEEDS THE 25%, UM, STIPULATION IN THE ENTRANCE CORRIDORS OVERLAY.

NOW FOR THE ANALYSIS, THE ENTRANCE CORRIDOR REVIEW FOCUSES ON THREE CONSIDERATIONS, LIKE I MENTIONED EARLIER, FIRST ECONOMIC FUNCTION.

THE DESIGN, UH, THE DIGITAL SIGN MAY SUPPORT ALLIANCE CREDIT UNION'S VISIBILITY AND ALLOW COMMUNICATION OF SERVICES, EVENTS AND INFORMATION.

HOWEVER, BECAUSE OF THIS, THE DISPLAY FACE IS ENTIRELY DIGITAL.

THE BUSINESS NAME OR PERMANENT IDENTIFICATION MAY NOT BE SHOWN AT ALL TIMES.

THE DRC SHOULD DETERMINE WHETHER THAT SUPPORTS THE INTENDED ECONOMIC FUNCTION OF THE CORRIDOR.

SECOND, WITH REGARDS TO TRAFFIC, PARKING AND CONNECTIVITY, THE SIGN MUST COMPLY WITH UDC SECTION NINE DASH FIVE C FIVE, INCLUDING STATIC DISPLAY MESSAGE CHANGE FREQUENCY, AUTOMATIC DIMMING MALFUNCTION CONTROLS AND PROHIBITIONS ON FLASHING, SCROLLING OR MOTION.

THESE STANDARDS ARE INTENDED TO REDUCE IMPACTS, BUT THEIR EFFECTIVENESS DEPENDS ON CONTINUED OPERATOR COMPLIANCE AND CITY CODE ENFORCEMENT.

THIRD, FOR WAYFINDING AND ORIENTATION, THE MONUMENT SIGN MAY IS MAY ASSIST WITH SITE IDENTIFICATION ALONG SOUTH MAIN STREET.

UH, THE DRC SHOULD DETERMINE WHETHER THE PORTION, THE PROPORTION OF THE DIGITAL DESIGN, THE DIGITAL SIGN DISPLAY IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE STREETSCAPE AND CHARACTER OF THE ENTRANCE CORRIDORS OVERLAY DISTRICT BASED ON UDC, SECTION TWO 10 E FOUR C STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE DETERMINE WHETHER THE REQUEST MEETS THE CRITERIA FOR A CERTIFICATE OF APPROVAL.

THE REQUEST MAY BE APPROVED, APPROVED WITH CONDITIONS DENIED OR DENIED.

IN PART, UH, THE COMMITTEE HAS TWO MOTION OPTIONS FOR CONSIDERATION, APPROVAL OF THE CERTIFICATE OF APPROVAL OR DENIAL.

IF, UM, THE REQUEST IS DENIED, THE COMMITTEE SHOULD STATE THE REASONS FOR DENIAL AND REFERENCE THE APPLICABLE UDC REGULATIONS.

UM, MR. CLIFTON JOHNSTON IS HERE, UH, THE APPLICANT TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

AS AM I.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

CAN YOU SAY WHAT THE SIZE OF THE CURRENT SIGN IS? THE SIZE? OH, THAT IS A GREAT QUESTION.

I DON'T KNOW IT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.

IT IS LEGALLY NON-CONFORMING.

DO YOU KNOW THE, THE SIZE OF IT? I DO KNOW IT'S MUCH TALLER THAN, UM, WHAT WE ALLOW.

CURRENTLY IT WAS A COLUMN IS TALLER.

RIGHT, BUT THE SIGN IS SMALLER.

CORRECT? YEAH.

OKAY.

I JUST WANTED TO GET A REFERENCE OF FROM THIS VIEW.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

WELL, I'LL OPEN UP FOR QUESTIONS.

I HAVE A QUESTION.

SO,

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THE FIRST THING IS I SEE THE BUILDING SIGN REALLY, REALLY WELL MM-HMM .

SO I MEAN, I SEE WHAT IT IS.

I SEE WHAT YOU DO.

THE TRAFFIC DOESN'T MOVE QUICKLY, IT'S NOT ON A HIGHWAY.

SO, UM, THE SIGN BEING EIGHT BY EIGHT AND FULLY DIGITAL MM-HMM .

WHY IS THE CONSIDERATION OF FULLY DIGITAL IMPORTANT CON COMPARED TO A LARGER SIGN THAT IS LIT BUT DOESN'T DISTRACT AT A TRAFFIC LIGHT AND HAS A SMALLER DIGITAL COMPONENT? BECAUSE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE, THE VARIANCE THAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR IS 25%, BUT IT'S A HUNDRED PERCENT EIGHT BY EIGHT SIGN.

RIGHT? THAT'S A PRETTY LARGE SIGN.

WELL, THE DIGITAL COMPONENT IS NOT EIGHT BY EIGHT.

YOU KNOW, THE WHOLE SIGN IS EIGHT BY EIGHT AND THAT INCLUDES THE, THE MASON WORD TOO.

SO IT'S EIGHT FOOT TALL.

EIGHT FOOT WIDE, I BELIEVE.

UM, YES.

SO THE, FROM THE BASE OF THE MONUMENT SIGN TO THE TOP PANEL IS, UH, ROUGHLY EIGHT FEET AND EIGHT FEET WIDE.

THE ACTUAL DIGITAL SIGN FACE IS SEVEN BY FOUR, WHICH IS 28 SQUARE FEET.

SEVEN FEET BY FOUR FEET.

YES MA'AM.

I STAND CORRECTED.

YES, MA'AM.

HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHY A SEVEN FOOT DIGITAL SIGN AT A STOPLIGHT IS SOMETHING THAT'S, WELL, BECAUSE THAT'S, THAT SIGN IS 80 FEET FROM THE ROAD BECAUSE OF THAT DRAINAGE THAT EASEMENT THERE AND WE'RE, WE'RE HAVING TO LOWER IT SO LOW THAT THERE IS, UM, YOU'RE JUST GONNA HAVE A TOUGH TIME SEEING IT FROM 80 FEET AWAY AND READING WHAT RATES AND, YOU KNOW, JUST ACTUALLY READING THE SIGN IF THE SIGN IS BACK LIT.

DO YOU FEEL LIKE THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT COULD BE REASONABLE AND NOT DIGITAL? AND YOU COULD SEE THE SIGN, I MEAN, IT IS AT A STOPLIGHT.

I DO KNOW I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE SIGN.

MM-HMM .

IT IS AT A STOP SIGN.

SO PEOPLE HAVE A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY TO STAND BY, WHICH, YOU KNOW, AND LOOK, BUT IT'S ALSO KIND OF A DISTRACTION FOR TRAFFIC.

SO IF IT WAS BACK LIT AND THE LIGHTS STAYED ON UNTIL, YOU KNOW, 10:00 PM THEN WOULD YOU CONSIDER THAT AS SOMETHING THAT COULD BE EASILY VISIBLY SEEN FROM THAT FAR AWAY? GIVEN THE SEVEN BY FOUR FOOT SIGN SIZE, THAT CHANGES? THIS IS NOT A SEVEN BY FOUR FOOT SIZE, I WOULD GUESS THIS IS LIKE A ONE BY THREE FOOT SIGN.

THAT SIGN IS MY GUESS.

IT IS, IT WOULD BE GREAT IF WE HAD THE MEASUREMENTS OF IT.

IT IS NINE BY WE HAVE MEASUREMENTS WE CAN FIND JUST THE SIGN, NOT THE COLUMN.

IT'S A LOT BIGGER.

IT'S, IT'S BIGGER THAN, THAN IT LOOKS, BUT, SO OUR RATES AND THINGS CHANGE REGULARLY AND WE, AND THEY'RE ON OUR SIGN, YOU KNOW, SO THAT'S ANOTHER REASON THAT WE, WE LIKE TO GO DIGITAL BECAUSE WE CAN JUST CLICK A BUTTON AND IT CHANGES THE RATE ON THE SIGN, YOU KNOW, MARKETING, IT'S NOT JUST, UM, YEAH, IT'S MORE OF A MARKETING THING THAN, YOU KNOW, WE USE IT FOR OUR RATES MAINLY JUST TO SHOW OUR RATES.

BUT, UM, THAT SIGN IS 10 FOOT BY THREE AND A HALF FOOT.

OH WOW.

JUST THE SIGN, THE SIGN ON THE TOP THERE IS A 10 FOOT SIGN BY THREE AND A HALF.

THAT'S 10 FEET.

SO IT'S 10 FEET.

THAT'S WHAT I'M FROM THAT FAR AWAY.

AND YOU CAN BARELY READ IT THERE.

YOU CAN IMAGINE WITH US SHRINKING IT TO HALF THAT SIZE, IT'S GONNA BE TOUGH TO READ.

SO IT'S THAT DRAINAGE, I MEAN IT'S JUST, THAT'S JUST A LARGE, IT'S PRETTY FAR BACK PERSON IF YOU'RE STANDING THERE.

AND I KNOW THAT'S A BIG SIGN THOUGH.

IT'S LIKE 16 FOOT TALL AND THEN 10 FOOT WIDE AT THE TOP.

SO IT'S HUGE COMPARED TO WHAT WE'RE PUT YOU ASKING.

SO YOUR SIGN WOULD BE SMALLER BUT DIGITAL AND HAVE CHANGING MM-HMM .

FONT ON IT.

SO DO YOU THINK THAT PEOPLE WOULD BE ABLE TO READ IT TO READ? I DO, YES.

BECAUSE WE, AND THE SIGNS THAT WE USE ARE VERY CLEAR.

THEY LOOK LIKE A SIGN, THEY'RE NOT LIKE A DIGITAL BOARD.

THEY'RE OKAY.

THEY LOOK LIKE A SIGN.

THEY LOOK LIKE A BACKLIT SIGN.

YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NOT BY ANY MEANS PIXELATED OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

THEY LITERALLY LOOK LIKE A SIGN WHEN THEY'RE ON.

OKAY.

SO YOU DON'T FEEL LIKE IT WOULD CAUSE ANY KIND OF, I MEAN, IT MIGHT BE ASKING THE WRONG AUDIENCE, BUT YOU DON'T, I MEAN, MY, MY CONCERN IS THERE'S SO MUCH DISTRACTED DRIVING AND ACCIDENTS ON MAIN ALREADY THAT FROM A TRAFFIC STANDPOINT, WE'RE NOT REALLY MOVING IN THE DIRECTION THAT I PERSONALLY AS A PER PRIVATE CITIZEN WOULD LIKE TO SEE.

RIGHT.

SO ADDING ADDITIONAL DISTRACTION FOR ME IS A CONCERN WITH RESPECT TO TRAFFIC.

UH, AND YOU KNOW, WE HAVE 'EM AT EVERY ONE OF OUR LOCATIONS, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT WE HAVE.

AND IT'S NO DIFFERENT IN MY OPINION, THAN JUST A SIGN THAT'S BACK LIT.

YOU KNOW, IT'S WHAT I WOULD SAY.

'CAUSE THAT'S WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, IT MAY SHIFT AND SOMEBODY'S THERE AND IT MAY CHANGE WHILE THEY'RE THERE FOR CHANGING THE RATE OR SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, THAT THEY MAY SEE.

BUT TO ME IT'S NOT ANY DIFFERENT THAN A BACK.

DO YOU HAVE A PICTURE THAT'S NOT A MOCK-UP OF ONE OF YOUR OTHER LOCATIONS? UM, I BET WE CAN COME UP WITH THAT.

THAT WOULD CALL, COULD YOU ALSO STATE YOUR, EXCUSE ME, COULD YOU ALSO STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD AS WELL? UM, UM, MY NAME IS CLIFTON JOHNSON AND IT'S 1 4 4 0 SOUTH MAIN STREET.

IS THAT THE ADDRESS YOU WANT? THE ONE FOR THE PROPERTY THAT THE ONE YOU WANT REPRESENTING YOURSELF.

OKAY.

YES, THAT'S IT.

YES.

SORRY.

AND WE MAY THANK

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YEAH, .

UM, IT WOULD JUST HELP, YOU KNOW, THE MOCKUP IS NOT LIT, BUT I, IT WOULD BE LESS DISTRACTING IF IT LOOKED MORE LIKE A SIGN FOR SURE.

I MEAN, AND THIS, AND THIS IS GONNA BE A TOTALLY DIFFERENT SIGN BECAUSE WE'VE COMPLETELY REDESIGNED IT TO MEET, JUST TO GET TO THIS POINT, JUST TO MEET OUR, ALL THAT DOWN IN A LOT COMPARED TO WHAT WE TYPICALLY DO.

UM, BUT I CAN SHOW YOU.

CAN I COME UP? YEAH, OF COURSE.

I'VE GOT ONE.

IT'S JUST, UH, HERE'S ONE.

DO CAN YOU ALSO GO BACK TO THE MOCK UP THE RENDERING? IS THAT POSSIBLE? OKAY.

THAT'S, UM, NO BIG DEAL SIDE.

DO YOU, UM, I'M SORRY.

YOU'RE FINE.

AND THIS IS A VERY STANDING RIGHT UP NEXT, JUST OBVIOUSLY YOU'RE STANDING NEXT TO, IT'S GONNA LOOK A LITTLE MORE PIXELATED THAN THAT, BUT IF YOU'RE 20 FEET AWAY FROM IT, YOU DON'T SEE THE, YOU KNOW, AND THIS IS A, WHAT THEY CALL A 10 MIL SIGN.

THE SIGN HERE WOULD BE A SIX MIL, WHICH IS LOOKING LIKE A TV OR SOMETHING.

IT'S LIKE A TV ZERO PIXELATION AT ALL.

BECAUSE WE HAD TO SHRINK IT DOWN.

SO WE HAD TO GET A BIT OF, SO, AND THE LIGHTING AT NIGHT IS NOT, I'M GENUINELY JUST CONCERNED ABOUT PEDESTRIAN SAFETY.

WELL, THEY AUTOMATICALLY LOOK DOWN.

OKAY.

WHATEVER THE SLO IS, THEY DOWN ACCORDING TO OH, WHATEVER WE NEED TO DO.

SO THEY'RE SET UP AND DOWN AND WE'LL PUT 'EM ON A TIMER TO TURN OFF AT 10.

YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING WE'RE ASKING AS FAR AS THAT GOES.

YOU DON'T SEE THAT? YEAH.

AWESOME.

YEAH, PLEASE MAKE SURE ALL THE COMMISSIONERS SEE THE SAME INFORMATION.

OKAY.

YEAH.

UM, AND SIR, YOU'LL NEED TO EMAIL THAT TO JOANNE MARIE AS WELL, SO WE CAN ADD IT TO THE RECORD.

I'LL THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR THAT.

YOU'RE VERY WELCOME.

THANK YOU.

YOU GOT MORE QUESTIONS? SO CURRENTLY IF THE SIGN IS, THE CURRENT SIGN IS 10 BY THREE, THAT WOULD BE 30 SQUARE FEET.

AND WE'RE LOOKING AT 28 SQUARE FEET FOR THE DIGITAL PORTION.

SO IT'D BE PRETTY CLOSE TO THE SIZE OF WHAT WE SEE ON THERE.

WOULD BE JUST THE DIGITAL PART OF THAT.

OKAY.

I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I WAS THINKING RIGHT IN A SHORTER BASE.

MUCH SHORTER.

MM-HMM .

ALL RIGHT.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION FROM ANYBODY? NO.

ALL RIGHT.

CAN WE GET A MOTION SO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE? WE HAVE A SECOND BY CARD, SO WE'LL GO.

UM, ALL IN FAVOR? ALL RIGHT.

THE MOTION HAS PASSED.

ASKED ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION OR QUESTIONS.

ALRIGHT, THEN WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM.

ANY COMMENTS FROM, UH, LEGAL OR FROM STAFF AT ALL? ALRIGHT, THEN WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE ADJOURNMENT.

SO WE'LL ADJOURN THE MEETING AT SIX 18.

THANK YOU EVERYBODY.

THANK YOU.

THANKS FOR BEING HERE.